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1. 06:23 AM - Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider (Noah Forden)
2. 07:34 AM - Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air (James H Nelson)
3. 09:09 AM - Diesel engines in RV9 (david wilson)
4. 09:35 AM - Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air (vicwj@earthlink.net)
5. 09:59 AM - fuel (jc@INFONET.COM.BR)
6. 11:03 AM - Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider (Bill Repucci)
7. 11:03 AM - Re: fuel (Bill Repucci)
8. 11:04 AM - Re: Diesel engines in RV9 (Bill Repucci)
9. 11:55 AM - fuel (jc@INFONET.COM.BR)
10. 02:47 PM - Primer-I am finally out of the SW wash primer (Merems)
11. 02:58 PM - Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air (DThomas773@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Noah Forden" <noahforden@cox.net>
Greetings Bob-
Just wanted to let you know that you may not have to choose between a slider and a canopy! I saw a guy at OSH this year who is offering a combination slider / tip up canopy. It's pretty slick, so I grabbed one of his brochures. His website is www.aircraftextras.com.
Noah Forden
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air |
--> RV9-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Hi Guys,
I chose the slider because I wanted to be able to utilize the
baggage area easier. If you use the slider canopy and use the "tip up"
modification that "aircraftextras.com" has for sale, you can use the
baggage area with ease. I saw it at Oshkosh and watched the designer
open and close the canopy with ease. The access to the baggage area to
me is important as my wife and I will be using out "9" for cross
countrys. The original slider makes for a tight loading arrangement and
the tip up canopy the same. Just a thought and a consideration.
Jim Nelson
N599RV (reserved)
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| Subject: | Diesel engines in RV9 |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "david wilson" <davidw@omne.uk.net>
Hi
Anyone any experience of fitting diesels in 9's and the performance that resulted?
Considering the Wilksch 120 engine. Cost of AVGAS in the UK is now extortionate
so a diesel equipped 9 appears to be the answer.
David Wilson
Ready to order kit with 3 friends
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "vicwj@earthlink.net" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Original Message:
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From: Richard Scott rscott@cascadeaccess.com
List, Would someone with a tip-up comment on taxing with the canopy
slightly open for venilation. Perhaps using a saftey strap to keep it
from flying up!
Vic
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air
--> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Bob,
I did the Synergy Air course last year and it was very good. You will
learn a lot. Plan for a very loooong day if you commute, starting the
class at 8 & ending around 6. Closer to home there is the Henry Gorgas
course, which is a 2 day thing & it is over on the west side
somewhere. Henry gets good reviews, also.
Slider vs. tip up: On the RV List the consensus seems to be the work
involved is about equal in terms of time and difficulty. The big
advantages of the tip up as I recall is instrument access and unobstructed
visibility, while the slider has the cool factor. I believe the slider is
safer if the plane goes on it's back because of the location of the roll
bar--draw a straight line from the nose to the tip of the tail and look at
where the roll bar is in relation to your head & you'll see what I
mean. On the other hand, Mike Robertson of the FAA says there is no
difference. Regarding instrument access, the tip up advantage can be
negated a little by using a modular panel in the slider. And at Van's
homecoming a couple years ago, I saw a tip up left open and there seemed to
be a lot of stress on the thing when a breeze came up. No problem, of
course, with the slider.
Richard Scott
At 12:46 PM 9/25/2004, you wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "Robert Gresli" <FlyRV9A@comcast.net>
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>RV-9A Group,
>
>I just picked up my Preview Plans and some videos the other day from Van's.
>
>Where can I find information on deciding on a canopy configuration. I'm a
>long way from needing to decide, but I'm curious. Slider vs Tip-up.
>
>I've only had one ride in the Van's demo -9A, with the slider. I use to
>fly a Grumman AA-5 which also had a sliding canopy. It is very nice on
>the ground on hot days. However, the visibility in the tip-up looks
>incredible.
>
>What are the pros and cons of each?
>
>Also, has anybody on the list gone to the 1-day Synergy Air metalworking
>class? I live near Portland, Oregon, so Eugene is not very far.
>
>Has anybody done the 6-day quick-build empenage class at Synergy? Is it
>worth the $$$$?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob Gresli
>Hillsboro OR (HIO)
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br
Hi everyone: The avgs 100LL in Brasil costs R$4.60/liter, it means US$6.14/gal.
Several airplanes owners are changing the carbs and/or fuel injection system to
burn
alcohol RS$1,6/liter <==> US$2.13/gal. There isnt alcohol in airports gas stations,
only out of airport gas stations. The problem is some airport management dont agree
to
bring alcohol from a gas station in some bulks and fill up the tanks. It could
be done
in airclubs without problem. Lycos engines could burn 87 octanes fuel. We call
it "avcar". Avcar costs R$2,00/liter <==> US$2.67/gal. The problem of bringing
fuel from
out of airport gas station is the same.
JC - Aracaju - Brasil
#90997
-9A QB
waiting for the kit.
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| Subject: | Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Does that give you the best or worst of both worlds? Extra weight and
complexity means lower useful load and longer build time. :(
I selected the tip-up because of the unobstructed view it offers.
Still, I think the slider wins major "cool" points.
Bill R.
SN: 90737
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From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noah Forden
Subject: RV9-List: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Noah Forden" <noahforden@cox.net>
Greetings Bob-
Just wanted to let you know that you may not have to choose between a
slider and a canopy! I saw a guy at OSH this year who is offering a
combination slider / tip up canopy. It's pretty slick, so I grabbed one
of his brochures. His website is www.aircraftextras.com.
Noah Forden
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Interesting thought. I believe the Germans tried that in WWII but I'm
not sure how successful it was.
As I understand it, alcohol absorbs water, thus it isn't considered a
good option for aircraft use. In the US, aircraft with auto fuel STC's
can't run auto fuel with alcohol (Gasahol is what we call it up here.)
because of the water absorption issue.
I would think installing a diesel or auto engine conversion would be a
better option for you.
Bill Repucci
RV-9
SN: 90737
Waiting for the fuselage kit.
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[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jc@INFONET.COM.BR
Subject: RV9-List: fuel
--> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br
Hi everyone: The avgs 100LL in Brasil costs R$4.60/liter, it means
US$6.14/gal.
Several airplanes owners are changing the carbs and/or fuel injection
system to burn
alcohol RS$1,6/liter <==> US$2.13/gal. There isnt alcohol in airports
gas stations,
only out of airport gas stations. The problem is some airport management
dont agree to
bring alcohol from a gas station in some bulks and fill up the tanks. It
could be done
in airclubs without problem. Lycos engines could burn 87 octanes fuel.
We call
it "avcar". Avcar costs R$2,00/liter <==> US$2.67/gal. The problem of
bringing fuel from
out of airport gas station is the same.
JC - Aracaju - Brasil
#90997
-9A QB
waiting for the kit.
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| Subject: | Diesel engines in RV9 |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Better yet, has anyone ever installed a radial engine on an RV-6, -7, or
-9? I think it would look something like a Spartan Exec and sound just
as good as the Exec looks.
Bill R.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david wilson
Subject: RV9-List: Diesel engines in RV9
--> RV9-List message posted by: "david wilson" <davidw@omne.uk.net>
Hi
Anyone any experience of fitting diesels in 9's and the performance that
resulted? Considering the Wilksch 120 engine. Cost of AVGAS in the UK
is now extortionate so a diesel equipped 9 appears to be the answer.
David Wilson
Ready to order kit with 3 friends
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--> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br
Hi Bill:
Thats the best of using alcohol fuel. They dont need to drain the tanks :-)). Some
papers show the maximum water absorption is 3% of the total volume. No problem
burnning
it. The major problem in using alcohol is the consuption. It is bigger than avgas
consuption. If the compression of the engine is raised by machinning the cilinders
the
maximum power output will be raised too.
JC - Aracaju - Brasil
#90997
-9A QB
waiting for the kit
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| Subject: | Primer-I am finally out of the SW wash primer |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Fellow builders,
I just finished primering the wing skins and I am finally out of the SW wash primer.
I am very disappointed in this product and do not recommend it.
Years ago I used a wash primer similar to the SW on my RV-4 with very little problems,
however the SW was a real nightmare. My main issue is spitting of chunks
of semi congealed primer on the surface and runs. I mixed the primer per
the directions, tried different pressures and different guns, but still similar
results. I live in Arizona and the climate is a bit dry which may have contributed.
The inside of my wing skins are speckled with primer, but know one will
see this.
Now that I am finished primering all my wing components I will be using the AKZO
primer on the fuselage. It may be more of a little hassle to set up, but the
results appear so much more consistent then the SW primer.
Paul
RV-4/RV-7A
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy: Tip-up vs Slider/Synergy Air |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
Mine is a tip up and I'm now at 125 hours. I always leave it unlocked and
partially open on the ground. On the ground it gets very warm if left closed
but you can release the latch and lift it up and prop it open with the lifting
handle rotated to hold it up. Works out fine. It doesn't need to be held
down. I'm told that if you forget to latch it before take off it just lifts up
a
bit and cannot be closed or opened further before you land and close it.
Dennis Thomas
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