---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/15/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:44 AM - List Fund Raiser - New Gift Addition! (Matt Dralle) 2. 06:50 AM - Re:Bandsaw question (Leland) 3. 08:35 AM - (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 4. 12:19 PM - Re: Bandsaw question (Ralph Cloud) 5. 03:01 PM - Re: (Ralph Cloud) 6. 03:52 PM - Re: Bandsaw question (Richard Scott) 7. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: (Richard Tasker) 8. 05:38 PM - Re: Bandsaw question (Bill Repucci) 9. 09:09 PM - W-918 aileron pushrod (Bill Cary) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:46 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV9-List: List Fund Raiser - New Gift Addition! --> RV9-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises (www.kitlog.com) has generously contributed free registered copies of his great Windows kit logging software called Kitlog Pro to support this year's List Fund Raiser! 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It ran about $120. It works fine but at times I wish it had a deeper throat. The trick is in the blade. If I remember correctly, Home Depot only sells two blades, both intended for wood. The finest, it may be a 16 tooth/inch, is adequate for aluminum but it dulls instantly on steel. The great thing about Home Depot is their return policy. Leland Expecting a Catto 3-blade prop Saturday "It seems the old bandsaw I had been using might have finally bit the dust. It was a cheap 14" saw my brother gave me but was variable speed and worked great for cutting aluminum. The problem is the company that built it is no longer around so parts may not be available. With the thought that I may have to replace it in mind, I would like to solicit some recommendations from my fellow builders. 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You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: rv9-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv9-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/rv9-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-===================================================================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:20 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net 1.16 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE Received: by and from look like IP addresses --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net there was a short thread a couple of months ago about mounting the Dynon pitot bracket. I was not clear on the suggestions and haven't been able to noodle through the process on my own. The hole called out on the plans is drilled, but it seems problematic to mount the dynon pitot there. Help John 90616 there was a short thread a couple of months ago about mounting the Dynon pitot bracket. I was not clear on the suggestions and haven't been able to noodle through the process on my own. The hole called out on the plans is drilled, but it seems problematic to mount the dynon pitot there. Help John 90616 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:05 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Bandsaw question --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" I bought a Delta with a 9" throat from Lowes, around $99. They have a 18TPI blade that cuts like a hacksaw - great for metal. The depth of the throat isn't as big of an issue as I thought, with some planning it doesn't cause a problem. Ralph in Livermore Wings, Fuse to be delivered TODAY!!! do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:03 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RV9-List: RE: --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" Check the archives, keywords "gress" "pitot" "Dynon". The thread should be there...no one uses "do not archive" on their posts to weed out the chatter. If I remember correctly the problem was at the Gress mount and the Dynon Pitot head juncture. The pre drilled holes in the relief on the pitot head did not allow edge clearance on the Gress mast. Some carried the relief further down on the pitot head to get the pitot head holes further away from the head. If I remember correctly the recommended fix from Gress/Dynon is to ignor the holes in the Pitot head and make new ones in the places you need to to allow for edge clearance. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (it won't be the first time). Ralph Livermore, Wings ... Fuse should be here today! do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > kerrjohna@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:35 AM > To: rv9- list > Subject: > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net > > there was a short thread a couple of months ago about mounting > the Dynon pitot bracket. I was not clear on the suggestions and > haven't been able to noodle through the process on my own. The > hole called out on the plans is drilled, but it seems problematic > to mount the dynon pitot there. Help > > John 90616 > > there was a short thread a couple of months ago about mounting > the Dynon pitot bracket. I was not clear on the suggestions and > haven't been able to noodle through the process on my own. The > hole called out on the plans is drilled, but it seems problematic > to mount the dynon pitot there. Help > > John 90616 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:24 PM PST US From: Richard Scott Subject: Re: RV9-List: Bandsaw question --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott Bill, The little Delta seems to be very popular and a good buy; often on sale. I went with a Grizzly and doubt that I have anything much better. Grizzly sells a variety of blades & you may be able to get one from them to fit whatever you buy. Can also have blades custom made--there are shops with blade welding machines that can take bulk blade stock and weld it to whatever length you need, so any tooth count density can be had. Richard Scott RV-9 Emp At 06:42 PM 11/14/2004, you wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" > >It seems the old bandsaw I had been using might have finally bit the >dust. It was a cheap 14" saw my brother gave me but was variable speed >and worked great for cutting aluminum. The problem is the company that >built it is no longer around so parts may not be available. > >With the thought that I may have to replace it in mind, I would like to >solicit some recommendations from my fellow builders. > >What bandsaw would you recommend for cutting aluminum. > >Bill >RV-9 >SN: 90737 >Fuselage ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:24 PM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV9-List: RE: --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Tasker Actually, if you do a search for this information you would do better if you spelled it correctly as "Gretz" :-) . To the point, it is not a problem with predrilled holes in the pitot head - there aren't any. The problem is that the holes in the mount are too far from the edge. The Dynon pitot has a slight recess on the base so that it slides into the mount a certain amount. That depth is not enough to allow sufficient edge clearance when you drill the mounting holes in the mount. The solution is to grind the pitot enough so that it will slide into the mount a little further. Then there will be enough edge distance when you drill the holes. Now, if you are actually asking about where to mount the Gretz mount on the wing, then you are correct that the hole location recommended by Van's for the standard pitot is not suitable. The Gretz mount must be located more aft in the wing skin. I believe (if I remember correctly) that the Gretz mount comes with appropriate instructions for this aspect. Dick Tasker Dick Tasker Ralph Cloud wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Ralph Cloud" > >Check the archives, keywords "gress" "pitot" "Dynon". The thread should be >there...no one uses "do not archive" on their posts to weed out the chatter. > >If I remember correctly the problem was at the Gress mount and the Dynon >Pitot head juncture. The pre drilled holes in the relief on the pitot head >did not allow edge clearance on the Gress mast. Some carried the relief >further down on the pitot head to get the pitot head holes further away from >the head. If I remember correctly the recommended fix from Gress/Dynon is to >ignor the holes in the Pitot head and make new ones in the places you need >to to allow for edge clearance. Someone correct me if I'm wrong (it won't be >the first time). > >Ralph Livermore, Wings ... Fuse should be here today! > >do not archive > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of >>kerrjohna@comcast.net >>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:35 AM >>To: rv9- list >>Subject: >> >> >>--> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net >> >>there was a short thread a couple of months ago about mounting >>the Dynon pitot bracket. I was not clear on the suggestions and >>haven't been able to noodle through the process on my own. The >>hole called out on the plans is drilled, but it seems problematic >>to mount the dynon pitot there. Help >> >>John 90616 >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:58 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Bandsaw question --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" Thanks for all of you who replied. I was able to find the part I needed, which was a new drive belt. The company that made my saw went out of business 11 years ago and I was having a hard time locating a replacement belt. It turns out that my drive belt is just a VERY big O-ring and I was able to locate them on the web today. I should have a replacement in three days. As for bandsaw blades, I found a very good site for ordering custom blades, www.ebandsawblades.com. I should have a new batch of blades, cut to my custom length by next week. (18 TPI, 1/4" X 57") (The saw I have I would never recommend for woodworking but seems to work good on the light cutting required for the -9 and does have a 14" throat, which works out well. More so since it has three speeds and I can slow it down for cutting metal.) Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Scott Subject: Re: RV9-List: Bandsaw question --> RV9-List message posted by: Richard Scott Bill, The little Delta seems to be very popular and a good buy; often on sale. I went with a Grizzly and doubt that I have anything much better. Grizzly sells a variety of blades & you may be able to get one from them to fit whatever you buy. Can also have blades custom made--there are shops with blade welding machines that can take bulk blade stock and weld it to whatever length you need, so any tooth count density can be had. Richard Scott RV-9 Emp At 06:42 PM 11/14/2004, you wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" > >It seems the old bandsaw I had been using might have finally bit the >dust. It was a cheap 14" saw my brother gave me but was variable speed >and worked great for cutting aluminum. The problem is the company that >built it is no longer around so parts may not be available. > >With the thought that I may have to replace it in mind, I would like to >solicit some recommendations from my fellow builders. > >What bandsaw would you recommend for cutting aluminum. > >Bill >RV-9 >SN: 90737 >Fuselage ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:17 PM PST US From: "Bill Cary" Subject: RV9-List: W-918 aileron pushrod --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Cary" Just received my wing kit this Saturday and while completing the inventory found that I didn't have an ST4130-035X1/2X 48". I was sent one only 38" long. Looking at DWG.15 it shows the pushrod needing to be 27 1/8 inches long. I assume that the intent was to cut the 48" rod in half and end hardwre makes up the remaining 3 1/8 inches. My question is, what is the proper length on the pushrod? is the DWG correct or is the 38" rod long enough to fabricate two pushrods (~22" long). Bill 90930 (N930RV Res)