---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/24/04: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:11 AM - Re: Engines (sdellangelo@netzero.com) 2. 06:16 AM - Re: Engines (sdellangelo@netzero.com) 3. 07:11 AM - wing tip lenses (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 4. 08:13 AM - Re: wing tip lenses (DThomas773@AOL.COM) 5. 08:37 AM - Re: wing tip lenses (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 6. 08:49 AM - Re: wing tip lenses (Hebert, Richard) 7. 08:59 AM - Catto Prop (jc@INFONET.COM.BR) 8. 09:14 AM - Re: wing tip lenses (DThomas773@AOL.COM) 9. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: (Steve Sampson) 10. 01:25 PM - Re: wing tip lenses (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 11. 04:01 PM - Engines (Watson Colleen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:25 AM PST US From: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" Subject: RV9-List: Re: Engines --> RV9-List message posted by: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" I am going to use an O-320-E3D that I got used "mid time". I will overhaul with 9:1 pistons, probably a single lightspeed, probably Ellison TBI (since it did not come with a carb) and maybe an ASI cam. Hoping for around 170hp without the extra 8ish pounds. Going to use a Sensenich 70 X 81" or 82" prop. If I had not found the used engine I was planning to do the ECI O-360 kit or else the O-320 kit with overhauled rods. Scott DellAngelo #90598 - Fuselage all drilled and starting to come apart for the last time tonight Plainfield, IL NetZero HiSpeed $14.95. Visit Sam Goody, Suncoast or MediaPlay Stores. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:00 AM PST US From: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" Subject: RV9-List: Re: Engines --> RV9-List message posted by: "sdellangelo@netzero.com" >Hi there: >Ive received an e-mail from Sensenich about a vibration coupling >between an >O-320, >9:1 >high compression pistons Aerosport engine and a 70" x 82" Sensenich >prop. >Does anyone has some info about it? >Thanks in advance >JC - Aracaju - Brasil >RV-9A QB >#90997 JC, Let me know what you find out as this list has been/is my plan. 9:1 and Sensenich 81 or 82. I wonder how Catto props stand up to flight in the rain? Maybe I should check into one of them as people seem to like them and you lose the 2600 rpm restriction I bet. Scott DellAngelo #90598 Fuselage Plainfield, IL NetZero HiSpeed $14.95. Visit Sam Goody, Suncoast or MediaPlay Stores. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:47 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: RV9-List: wing tip lenses 0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE Received: by and from look like IP addresses --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:56 AM PST US From: DThomas773@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Hi John, Mine came as 1peice. It looks a small bubble and you need to cut it in half to make the 2 lenses. Pretty simple and straight forward task. Dennis ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:37 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net after cutting and fitting, how did you attach it to the fairing. did you do more than "eye-ball" the position/strobe to the fairing? Thanks, John -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com > > Hi John, > Mine came as 1peice. It looks a small bubble and you need to cut it in half > to make the 2 lenses. Pretty simple and straight forward task. > > Dennis > > > > > > after cutting and fitting, how did you attach it to the fairing. did you do more than "eye-ball" the position/strobe to the fairing? Thanks, John -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com Hi John, Mine came as 1peice. It looks a small bubble and you need to cut it in half to make the 2 lenses. Pretty simple and straight forward task. Dennis tronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:07 AM PST US From: "Hebert, Richard" Subject: RE: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: "Hebert, Richard" Hi John, I don't have the specifics, but I do know a great website where you can get some information with great pictures of how to "Install Wingtip Lens". Randy Pflanzer has a great website where he is buidling his F1 Rocket. If you go to the site and look at his section on installing the wingtip lens, you'll get some great information. Check it out. http://f1rocket.home.comcast.net/index.html Hope this helps..... Richard Hebert RV-9A Empenage Complete -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:20 AM PST US From: jc@INFONET.COM.BR Subject: RV9-List: Catto Prop --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br Hi Scott Delllangelo: I live in the northeast region of Brasil, and in the summer time weve got a lot of sparsed rain in our heading. My last airplane, a FASCINATION (Germany ultralight airplane), had a composite propeller, and Ive got a lot problems in the leading edge surface. http://www.cattoprops.com/index.html This is the answer from Mr Craig, form rep Catto Propellers about it.: "Hello JC, The way that my propeller is manufactured, the type of composite structure is very durable to rain... Here is how it works.... I have many customers in eastern US and rain is a big concern there.. If you pull the rpm back to 2200 to 2300 rpm, you will not have any erosion at all of the leading edge in medium rain... However in your situation, an area of lots of rain, I would highly recommend the use of PropGuard Leading Edge Tape.. I stock the material and install it on propellers for my customers for this type of flying. With the PropGuard Tape installed, you can fly through rain at full throttle and not hurt anything.. The cost is only $85 for the three bladed prop installed.. It will last about 2 to 3 years, you pull it off and install new tape.. It is very easy to install and is STC'd. Regards, Craig Catto" Gimme an answer. JC RV-9A QB #90997 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:02 AM PST US From: DThomas773@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com I used # 6 nutplates and countersink machine screws, at first 1 each, top and bottom on the rear inside corner. After flying a bit they seem to lifting some so I added another nutplate on the bottom, halfway between the rear corner and leading edge. I have the combination,strobe and position lights and did just eyeball their location. Be sure they are far enough to the rear that they will be clear of the lense surface. Dennis ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:08 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: RV9-List: RE: --> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Richard/Bill - Sorry not to come back sooner, but I have been away. Yes I guess the center of the mount is very slightly aft, however the head itself is in fact further forward. I have just pulled out the VANS and Gretz instructions since you had me worried. In fact I doubt it is that sensitive in practice either. I also have not yet flown. Regards, Steve. #90360 --- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:09 PM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: RE: RV9-List: wing tip lenses --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net thanks. it looks to be a great resource. John -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Hebert, Richard" > > Hi John, > I don't have the specifics, but I do know a great website where you can get > some information with great pictures of how to "Install Wingtip Lens". Randy > Pflanzer has a great website where he is buidling his F1 Rocket. If you go to > the site and look at his section on installing the wingtip lens, you'll get some > great information. Check it out. > > http://f1rocket.home.comcast.net/index.html > > Hope this helps..... > > Richard Hebert > RV-9A Empenage Complete > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of > kerrjohna@comcast.net > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: wing tip lenses > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net > > does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the > point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". > > John Kerr > 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint > > does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the > point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". > > John Kerr > 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint > > > > > > thanks. it looks to be a great resource. John -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV9-List message posted by: "Hebert, Richard" Hi John, I don't have the specifics, but I do know a great website where you can get some information with great pictures of how to "Install Wingtip Lens". Randy Pflanzer has a great website where he is buidling his F1 Rocket. If you go to the site and look at his section on installing the wingtip lens, you'll get some great information. Check it out. http://f1rocket.home.comcast.net/index.html Hope this helps..... Richard Hebert RV-9A Empenage Complete -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kerrj ohna@comcast.net To: rv9-list@matronics.com Subject: RV9-List: wing tip lenses -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint does anyone have suggestions/instructions for installing the clear lenses in the point of the wing tip. If I had any they have been "misfiled". John Kerr 90616, finishing wiring,assembly, etc pre-paint ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:01:18 PM PST US From: "Watson Colleen" Subject: RV9-List: Engines --> RV9-List message posted by: "Watson Colleen" I have about 200 hours on my RV-9A with a 160hp engine and the 79 pitch Senesenich prop. I settled on this option after reading Van's article in the forth issue, 2001, of the RVator on why not to use more than 160hp. I have developed the following numbers over the 200 hours and you may wish to use them in considering your final engine and prop choice. Full throttle at 8000' is 188 miles an hour and 2580 RPM. Not an area one would want to cruise at with the 2600 limit. Therefore, I cruse at 2450 and 180 miles an hour. At this power setting the true airspeed is maintained over a wide range of altitudes. I fly with a group of RV-6's (most with 180 HP and constant speed props). They say they have to reduce their power about 1"MP for me to stay up with them. A T-18 also flies with us and he and I have identical airspeed for the same RPM. I am based at an elevation of 5600' and on initial takeoff roll I get 2230 RPM. The initial climb is never less than 1000ft/min. With a normal range of 1000 to 1500 ft/min. Performance wise I am very happy with this combination and feel it was the right choice and does not exceed the designers limits. The one thing I am still working on is how to get it slowed down to the 100mph initial flap speed and not fly a very long pattern. The airplane is very clean and will gain speed very quickly if one lowers the nose just a little and you will not be able to get it to flap speed. A constant speed prop would be nice to help this flight dynamic. The trade off is the forward CG. If one does go to a constant speed prop you may wish to calculate the impact on the CG and plan accordingly. Dick