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1. 05:47 AM - Re: RV-9 Flying (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
2. 09:35 AM - wiring harness debugging (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
3. 10:01 AM - Performance numbers (Steve Sampson)
4. 10:32 AM - Data Base as Requested (Vic Jacko)
5. 11:07 AM - Re: wiring harness debugging (fcs@jlc.net)
6. 11:47 AM - Re: wiring harness debugging (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
7. 01:59 PM - Re: wiring harness debugging (fcs@jlc.net)
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--> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
Albert, that's my kind of flying....My 9 is to the buttoning up stage with a little
more trouble shooting before going to the paint booth.
John Kerr
Logan UT KLGU (Under your southbound leg)
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> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner"
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> After escorting a friends RV-4 to Great Falls, MT Friday, I flew north and
> stuck a wing over the Canadian border at Sweetgrass, MT (Ross International
> Airport K7S8) and then flew 28 miles south landing at Shelby, MT KSBX for
> fuel. Next stop was Salt Lake City #2 KU42 for fuel, then Kanab, UT KKNB for
> fuel and to see a Glassair, then Yuma, AZ KYUM after sticking a wing into
> Mexico for a distance of 988 nm.. Air was very rough North of SLC through
> Montana with mild to strong headwinds (both directions!). Navigating and
> communicating in rough air is made vastly easier using the Altrak Altitude
> Hold and the NavAid Autopilot. The ControlVision GPS unit works flawlessly
> and raises the comfort level a bunch flying over sparsely populated areas.
> This plane is a joy to fly and land even in crosswinds. Keep building.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-9A 872RV, 423 hours
> Yuma, AZ
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Albert, that's my kind of flying....My 9 is to the buttoning up stage with a little
more trouble shooting before going to the paint booth.
John Kerr
Logan UT KLGU (Under your southbound leg)
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-- RV9-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <IBSPUD@ADELPHIA.NET>
After escorting a friends RV-4 to Great Falls, MT Friday, I flew north and
stuck a wing over the Canadian border at Sweetgrass, MT (Ross International
Airport K7S8) and then flew 28 miles south landing at Shelby, MT KSBX for
fuel. Next stop was Salt Lake City #2 KU42 for fuel, then Kanab, UT KKNB for
fuel and to see a Glassair, then Yuma, AZ KYUM after sticking a wing into
Mexico for a distance of 988 nm.. Air was very rough North of SLC through
Montana with mild to strong headwinds (both directions!). Navigating and
communicating in rough air is made vastly easier using the Altrak Altitude
Hold and the NavAid Autopilot. The ControlVision GPS unit works flawlessly
&g
t; and raises the comfort level a bunch flying over sparsely populated areas.
This plane is a joy to fly and land even in crosswinds. Keep building.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A 872RV, 423 hours
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | wiring harness debugging |
--> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
I could use a little help in thinking through the debugging of the comm and xpndr
harnesses. When PTT is pressed the trim indicator pegs. I suspect that it
is due to too small a wire for the common ground in the multifunction grip.
Any ideas?
When the master is on the interegation light comes on the KT76A transponder, but
when the unit is turned on, the light goes out. Que passe? Nez pas? Help?
John Kerr, (working under the left half of the front deck because the other half
was riveted prior to debugging.)
I could use a little help in thinking through the debugging of the comm and xpndr
harnesses. When PTT is pressed the trim indicator pegs. I suspect that it is
due to too small a wire for the common ground in the multifunction grip. Any
ideas?
When the master is on the interegation light comes on the KT76A transponder, but
when the unit is turned on, the light goes out. Que passe? Nez pas? Help?
John Kerr, (working under the left half of the front deck because the other half
was riveted prior to debugging.)
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| Subject: | Performance numbers |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Does anyone have or know where I will find actual builder performance
numbers for the RV9A that are flying with various prop/engine / weight
combinations? Climb, Speed etc.
Thanks, Steve.
#90360
G-IINI
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| Subject: | Data Base as Requested |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
RV Weight and Balance DatabaseRV Weight and Balance Database
"Virtual Aircraft" Averages:
Type # HP Blades Prop Diam Empty CG Empty Gross Useful Fuel Payload
Rocket II 1 250 4 77" 84.92" 1160 2000 840 42 588
RV-4 12 164 2 70" 68.6" 983 1554 571 31.85 380
RV-6 10 177 2 71" 70.35" 1092 1788 695 39.35 459
RV-6A 15 174 2 72" 69.19" 1110 1800 690 37.8 463
RV-7 10 185 2 72" 79.71" 1072 1825 753 42 501
RV-7A 8 183 2 73" 79.82" 1127 1856 729 42 477
RV-8 10 182 2 72" 77.76" 1099 1800 701 42 449
RV-8A 2 175 3 66" 77.99" 1033 1800 767 41 521
RV-9A 6 158 2 70" 76.92" 1072 1792 719 36 503
Click on an aircraft to see and perform sample loadings.
Type Owner Tail # Engine HP Propeller Empty CG Empty Gross Useful Fuel Payload
Comments
Rocket II Thomas Gummo N561FS Lycoming IO-540 250 77" MT 4-blade Composite
CS 84.92" 1160 2000 840 42 588
RV-4 Marc DeGirolamo C-FRVE Lycoming O-320 150 70" Other 2-blade Wood FP
70.68" 973 1500 527 32 335
RV-4 Mitch Garner N10TH Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 72.47" 1027.2 1600 572.8 32 380.8 Datum 65" fwd of wing LE.
RV-4 Pat Long N120PL Lycoming O-320 160 68" Sterba 2-blade Wood FP 71.3"
960 1500 540 32 348
RV-4 Wayne Bonesteel N130NS Lycoming IO-320 150 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 70.72" 969 1600 631 32 439 Datum 60 in. forward of wing lea...
RV-4 Jeff Bertsch N230KT Lycoming IO-360 180 73" Whirlwind 3-blade Composite
CS 68.38" 1107 1700 593 32 401
RV-4 Dick Sipp N250DS Lycoming O-320 160 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
67.46" 1025 1500 475 32 283
RV-4 Scott VanArtsdalen N311SV Lycoming O-320 160 68" Catto 2-blade Composite
FP 70.9" 874 1500 626 32 434
RV-4 Dave Hyde N416RV Lycoming O-320 160 68" Aymar-Demuth 2-blade Wood FP
59.87" 952 1600 648 32 456 Datum 50 inches ahead of CG. Al...
RV-4 Linne' Holmberg N46B Lycoming O-320 160 68" Performance Propellers 2-blade
Wood FP 64.61" 924 1550 626 31 440
RV-4 Ted Lumpkin N515TL Lycoming IO-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 67.74" 1023 1550 527 32 335 I have a Christen inverted oil s...
RV-4 Mike McGee N996RV Lycoming O-320 150 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 69.27" 979 1550 571 31.16 384.04 VFR day/night, PC680 battery on ...
RV-4 Brent Travis N999BT Lycoming O-360 180 68" Aymar-Demuth 2-blade Wood
FP 69.65" 986 1500 514 32 322
RV-6 Hank Gallagher 866RV Superior O-360 210 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 70.06" 1085 1850 765 39 531
RV-6 Curt Reimer C-GACR Lycoming O-320 160 70" Other 2-blade Wood FP 70.76"
1070 1750 680 38 452 Prop Type is: Colin Walker (cana...
RV-6 Harry Crosby N16CX Lycoming O-360 180 70" Catto 2-blade Composite FP
71.14" 1036 1850 814 38 586
RV-6 Jeff Point N187CF Superior O-360 180 70" Sterba 2-blade Wood FP 70.42"
1067 1650 583 38 355
RV-6 Roger Hansen N200RH Lycoming IO-360 200 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 68.82" 1244 2100 856 50.5 553 Have 12.5 gallon aux tank, oxyge...
RV-6 David Leonard N4VY Mazda Other 160 68" Aymar-Demuth 2-blade Wood FP
69.63" 1095 1800 705 38 477
RV-6 Tom Prokop N910TP Lycoming O-360 180 75" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
70.46" 1110 1850 740 38 512
RV-6 Tony Marshall N91CM Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 70.56" 1139 1775 636 38 408
RV-6 Leif Stener SE-XRV Lycoming IO-320 160 68" Other 2-blade Wood FP 71.7"
1054 1600 546 38 318
RV-6 Martin Hone VH-ZMH Lycoming O-320 160 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 70.28" 1023 1650 627 38 399
RV-6A Bob Merritt 97WK Lycoming O-320 150 68" Other 2-blade Wood FP 70.14"
1029 1850 821 38 593
RV-6A Jim Oke C-GKGZ Lycoming O-320 160 80" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum FP
69.9" 1051 1650 599 38 371 Operation pemritted to 1750 lbs ...
RV-6A Dale Ensing N118DE Lycoming O-360 190 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 66.95" 1084 1800 716 36 500
RV-6A John Ward N164JW Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
70.35" 1171 1850 679 38 451
RV-6A Dick Flunker N326DB Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 70.97" 1139 1800 661 38 433
RV-6A Dave Biddle N432DG Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 67.45" 1108 1800 692 38 464
RV-6A Ed Anderson N494BW Mazda Other 180 76" Other 2-blade Wood FP 68.66"
1170 1800 630 37 408
RV-6A Mark Phillips N51PW Lycoming O-320 150 66" Catto 3-blade Composite
FP 70.86" 1020 1700 680 38 452 Unpainted
RV-6A Michael Stewart N686MS Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 70.23" 1189 2000 811 38 583
RV-6A DAVE GEHLE N721DP Lycoming IO-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 69.23" 1168 1850 682 38 454
RV-6A Jon Baker N883TT Lycoming O-320 160 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
69.15" 1120 1950 830 38 602
RV-6A Gary Zilik N99PZ Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
68.45" 1094 1800 706 38 478
RV-6A Ross Mickey N9PT Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
67.95" 1179 1850 671 38 443
RV-6A Werner Spenner PP XAP Lycoming O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 68.79" 1065 1650 585 38 357
RV-6A Werner Spenner PP-XAP Lycoming O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 68.8" 1065 1650 585 38 357
RV-7 cary rhodes N203CR Lycoming O-360 180 68" Other 2-blade Wood FP 83.14"
1058 1800 742 42 490
RV-7 Amit Dagan N247GA Other O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum FP
80.0" 1011 1800 789 42 537 Engine is an Aerosport power O-3...
RV-7 Larry Helming N3XG Other O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum FP
80.39" 1093 1800 707 42 455 Weight includes wall to wall and...
RV-7 John Adams N577RV Lycoming O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 81.03" 1045 1747 702 42 450
RV-7 John Adams N577RV-1 Lycoming O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 79.91" 1065.5 1800 734.5 42 482.5 A 24.5 lb prop spacer was added ...
RV-7 Rick Johnson N686EC Lycoming IO-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 78.69" 1026 1800 774 42 522
RV-7 Ross Schlotthauer N703RV Lycoming IO-390 210 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 78.81" 1103 1950 847 42 595 Elt and strobe power supply in t...
RV-7 Dan Checkoway N714D Lycoming IO-360 200 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 77.84" 1132 1950 818 42 566
RV-7 Doug Preston N731RV Lycoming O-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 78.8" 1109.4 1800 690.6 42 438.6
RV-7 Jack Holland N77567 Lycoming IO-360 180 72" Whirlwind 2-blade Composite
CS 78.67" 1072.5 1800 727.5 42 475.5 No paint
RV-7A guy trottier C-FBDU Lycoming O-360 180 71" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
FP 80.9" 1085 1800 715 42 463
RV-7A Steve Hurlbut C-FZQX Eggenfellner Subaru Other 165 72" Quinti 3-blade
Other CS 79.63" 1171 1800 629 42 377
RV-7A Marc Bravo N 320NW Superior O-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 79.48" 1144 1875 731 42 479 Everything but the paint.
RV-7A Roberta Hegy N2447A Lycoming O-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 79.33" 1117 1800 683 42 431
RV-7A Doug Jones N277DL Lycoming IO-360 200 72" MT 3-blade Composite CS 80.54"
1142 1950 808 42 556
RV-7A Marc Bravo N320NW Superior O-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 79.48" 1144 1875 731 42 479 Everything but the paint.
RV-7A John Chandler N5SP Lycoming IO-360 200 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 79.16" 1141 1950 809 42 557 680 battery no firewall, ELT beh...
RV-7A Ronald Miller N623CM Lycoming IO-360 180 74" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 80.11" 1071.08 1800 728.92 42 476.92
RV-8 Charles Newman 828RV Lycoming O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 77.11" 1086 1800 714 42 462 Needs info on forward baggage co...
RV-8 Jack Fromm N138JF Superior O-360 180 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS
76.27" 1068 1800 732 42 480 Unpainted, Odyssey battery on fi...
RV-8 Jim Daniels N204X Superior IO-360 180 68" Whirlwind 3-blade Composite
CS 77.83" 1076 1800 724 42 472
RV-8 Rick McBride N523RJ Lycoming IO-360 200 77" Whirlwind 2-blade Composite
CS 80.68" 1178 1800 622 42 370
RV-8 Randy Lervold N558RL Lycoming O-360 180 72" Whirlwind 2-blade Composite
CS 77.83" 1106 1800 694 42 442 Plane flies MUCH better with lig...
RV-8 Chuck Scott N737MC Lycoming IO-360 200 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 77.55" 1153 1800 647 42 395
RV-8 Sam Ward N84TX Lycoming O-360 180 76" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum CS 76.79"
1077.5 1800 722.5 42 470.5
RV-8 Jonathan Weiswasser N898JW Lycoming IO-360 180 72" Whirlwind 2-blade
Composite CS 77.66" 1149 1800 651 42 399
RV-8 Alan Kritzman N8EM Lycoming O-320 160 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 78.31" 1035 1800 765 42 513
RV-8 Brian Denk N94BD Lycoming O-360 180 72" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum FP
77.29" 1062 1800 738 42 486 Firewall mounted battery (Wally ...
RV-8A Mark Andrews N598X Lycoming O-360 180 66" Catto 3-blade Composite FP
78.2" 1034 1800 766 42 514 Odyssey bat, LSE and mag
RV-8A Bill VonDane N8WV Lycoming O-320 170 66" Catto 3-blade Composite FP
77.77" 1032 1800 768 40 528
RV-9A Steve Sampson G-IINI Lycoming O-320 150 71" MT 2-blade Composite CS
77.42" 1044 1750 706 36 490 NB The prop is an MT electric pr...
RV-9A Leland Collins N137LC Lycoming O-320 160 66" Catto 3-blade Composite
FP 77.24" 1030 1750 720 36 504 Catto 3-Blade prop, O320, uphols...
RV-9A Dave Nicholson N347N Eggenfellner Subaru Other 160 72" Quinti 3-blade
Composite CS 76.73" 1213 1850 637 36 421 Includes 5# Ballast in Tail
RV-9A David Edgemon N42DE Lycoming O-320 160 72" Hartzell 2-blade Aluminum
CS 77.16" 1080 1850 770 36 554
RV-9A Jack Eckdahl N489JE Lycoming O-320 160 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 76.04" 1017 1750 733 36 517 unpainted, no gear leg or wheel ...
RV-9A John Clark N6699 Lycoming O-320 160 70" Sensenich 2-blade Aluminum
FP 76.91" 1050 1800 750 36 534 painted, all done I think
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| Subject: | wiring harness debugging |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" <fcs@jlc.net>
John, I doubt it has anything to do with the wire size. PTT doesn't
require significant current sink. 99% likely you have botched a wire
inside your grip. Double check them. The only other time I might expect a
symptom like that is if you omitted the ground altogether. If you don't
see any problem, try opening the PTT wire somewhere between the stick and
stack and see how the symptoms change (i.e. does the trim light still max
out when you push PTT and does the radio xmit when you ground the opened
wire?).
Regarding the light on your xpndr, unless your unit has some sort of power
on self-test, your interrogation light should only come on when you are
actively relaying a scan. If this is not normal for your unit, I would
start by checking your xpndr grounds (at the unit and the antenna). Try
unhooking the antenna and see if anything changes).
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| Subject: | wiring harness debugging |
--> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
thanks for the tips, these won't be the first mispinned connections.
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net"
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> John, I doubt it has anything to do with the wire size. PTT doesn't
> require significant current sink. 99% likely you have botched a wire
> inside your grip. Double check them. The only other time I might expect a
> symptom like that is if you omitted the ground altogether. If you don't
> see any problem, try opening the PTT wire somewhere between the stick and
> stack and see how the symptoms change (i.e. does the trim light still max
> out when you push PTT and does the radio xmit when you ground the opened
> wire?).
>
> Regarding the light on your xpndr, unless your unit has some sort of power
> on self-test, your interrogation light should only come on when you are
> actively relaying a scan. If this is not normal for your unit, I would
> start by checking your xpndr grounds (at the unit and the antenna). Try
> unhooking the antenna and see if anything changes).
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thanks for the tips, these won't be the first mispinned connections.
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" <FCS@JLC.NET>
John, I doubt it has anything to do with the wire size. PTT doesn't
require significant current sink. 99% likely you have botched a wire
inside your grip. Double check them. The only other time I might expect a
symptom like that is if you omitted the ground altogether. If you don't
see any problem, try opening the PTT wire somewhere between the stick and
stack and see how the symptoms change (i.e. does the trim light still max
out when you push PTT and does the radio xmit when you ground the opened
wire?).
Regarding the light on your xpndr, unless your unit has some sort of power
on self-test, your interrogation light should only come on when you are
actively relaying a scan. If this is not normal for your unit, I would
start by checking your xpndr grounds (at the unit and the antenna). Try
unhooking the antenna and see if anything changes).
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| Subject: | wiring harness debugging |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" <fcs@jlc.net>
> thanks for the tips, these won't be the first mispinned connections.
No problem; and don't feel bad, the first time I wired up my PTT switches
I had inadvertently shorted one. For about five minutes, I was muttering
things like "what the f__k, and g__damnitall" only to discover that my
radios were transmitting on Boston Center freq. Must have been real
entertaining. Fortunately it was late at night and I didn't say my name.
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