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1. 12:08 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
2. 10:56 AM - Flap & aileron attach brackets. (D.Munz)
3. 01:50 PM - Re: Flap & aileron attach brackets. (Chenoweth)
4. 03:53 PM - DRDT-2 dimpling tool at the Copperstate Fly-In Oct 7-8th (Merems)
5. 04:53 PM - Re: Flap & aileron attach brackets. (Mike Hoover)
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Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> RV9-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com
Dear Lister,
Please read over the RV9-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV9-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV9-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Subject: | Flap & aileron attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net>
Hello everyone. Question: I am preparing to install the flap attach brackets (925-a)
to the ribs and was wondering if I could do this before installing the top
wing skins. In theory this would make the riviting easier by allowing me to
use the squeezer for all. Am I missing something? Would not installing the skins
not give the skeleton enough rigidity to allow for proper bracket install?
Your input would be welcome.
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Subject: | Re: Flap & aileron attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
Good question. I asked Bruce Reynolds at Van's this very thing. He didn't
know if it was ok (he hasn't built a 9) but thought it was. Also asked
Scott Risan (also of Van's) and he felt it was fine. I know of at least one
builder who has done this also.
So, I did it that way but I haven't got the top skins on yet so I'm not sure
if there are any traps here. I can tell you that my squeezer doesn't want
to do rivets that long so I used a 3x gun. However, you are absolutely
right that riveting is a lot easier with the top skins off. One thing I did
do was to have either a top or bottom skin clecoed on to guarantee alignment
when I drilled the brackets and when I drove the first one or two rivets on
each.
There is also a bit of a story regarding aligning the middle flap hangar if
you're interested.
Bill in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net>
Subject: RV9-List: Flap & aileron attach brackets.
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net>
>
> Hello everyone. Question: I am preparing to install the flap attach
brackets (925-a) to the ribs and was wondering if I could do this before
installing the top wing skins. In theory this would make the riviting easier
by allowing me to use the squeezer for all. Am I missing something? Would
not installing the skins not give the skeleton enough rigidity to allow for
proper bracket install? Your input would be welcome.
>
>
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Subject: | DRDT-2 dimpling tool at the Copperstate Fly-In Oct 7-8th |
INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.1887 1.0000 -1.9730
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
Fellow RV builders,
The ExperimentalAero DRDT-2 dimpling tool (experimentalaero.com) will at the Avery
Tool booth at the CopperState Fly-in (Casa Grande, AZ) next weekend Oct 7-8th.
Stop by and give it a test drive.
Sincerely,
Paul Merems
ExperimentalAero
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Subject: | Flap & aileron attach brackets. |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Mike Hoover" <mikehoover@sc.rr.com>
The double offset rivet set I bought from Averys did the job without
deviating from the plans/manual. Perhaps a bit uncomfortable, but get used
to it...the fuse kit is next! Also, my middle flap bracket aligned perfectly
with no adjustment. Thanks Vans!
Mike
SC 9A fuse...hoping to roll over the canoe this week
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chenoweth
Subject: Re: RV9-List: Flap & aileron attach brackets.
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
Good question. I asked Bruce Reynolds at Van's this very thing. He didn't
know if it was ok (he hasn't built a 9) but thought it was. Also asked
Scott Risan (also of Van's) and he felt it was fine. I know of at least one
builder who has done this also.
So, I did it that way but I haven't got the top skins on yet so I'm not sure
if there are any traps here. I can tell you that my squeezer doesn't want
to do rivets that long so I used a 3x gun. However, you are absolutely
right that riveting is a lot easier with the top skins off. One thing I did
do was to have either a top or bottom skin clecoed on to guarantee alignment
when I drilled the brackets and when I drove the first one or two rivets on
each.
There is also a bit of a story regarding aligning the middle flap hangar if
you're interested.
Bill in Maine
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net>
Subject: RV9-List: Flap & aileron attach brackets.
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "D.Munz" <182ppl@comcast.net>
>
> Hello everyone. Question: I am preparing to install the flap attach
brackets (925-a) to the ribs and was wondering if I could do this before
installing the top wing skins. In theory this would make the riviting easier
by allowing me to use the squeezer for all. Am I missing something? Would
not installing the skins not give the skeleton enough rigidity to allow for
proper bracket install? Your input would be welcome.
>
>
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