---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/18/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:30 AM - Canopy jettison (Randy Russell) 2. 06:05 AM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity (Michael T. Ice) 3. 07:22 AM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. (Gary Robertson) 4. 08:26 AM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. (Gerry Filby) 5. 12:14 PM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. () 6. 12:36 PM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. (Vic Jacko) 7. 01:00 PM - Re: Canopy jettison (Ron Russ) 8. 01:17 PM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. (Gerry Filby) 9. 02:23 PM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. (Gary Robertson) 10. 06:06 PM - Re: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:34 AM PST US From: "Randy Russell" Subject: RV9-List: Canopy jettison --> RV9-List message posted by: "Randy Russell" Thanks for the help. I tried it this morning and it worked great. Too bad that some of Van's support staff (Ken), talk down to you and make you feel like an idiot. He said "in the ten years I have been here, I have NEVER heard of anyone having this problem". Demeaning to my interpretation. There are other great support staff there. I have had at least a dozen online and offline contacts who had the same problem from this list. Sounds like too short of a spring. Easy to remediy. Thanks again to all those who helped. RV9A finishing C-FYOO (reserved) Randy "Do not archive" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:59 AM PST US From: "Michael T. Ice" is your gain. Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is your gain. Gerry, Why not put them on a tail dragger? I am building the 9 as well and although I have never seen a 9 in person I have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) have steps. Is the 9 low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? Mike Ice Anchorage, AK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Filby" Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger and I opted > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the shelf > mocking me ... > > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for the price of > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came from Vans. > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received gets them. > > __g__ > > ========================================================== > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:33 AM PST US From: Gary Robertson Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson Mike & Gerry, I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas. A local builder has what I believe is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this plane in person, and while I didn't physically get up into the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It is a beautiful bird! Take care, Gary Robertson -9, About to start on wings...... "Michael T. Ice" , UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is your gain. Gerry, Why not put them on a tail dragger? I am building the 9 as well and although I have never seen a 9 in person I have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) have steps. Is the 9 low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? Mike Ice Anchorage, AK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Filby" Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger and I opted > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the shelf > mocking me ... > > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for the price of > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came from Vans. > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received gets them. > > __g__ > > ========================================================== > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. From: Gerry Filby --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby There is no point to te steps on the tail dragger, the wing walk is plenty low enough to the ground to step up. All you achieve by adding them is extra drag ! g > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson > > > Mike & Gerry, > > I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area of Texas. > A local builder has what I believe is the first -9 to fly. I > recently saw this plane in person, and while I didn't > physically get up into the cockpit, the wing is very low, and > looks VERY easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 > if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It is a > beautiful bird! > > Take care, > > Gary Robertson > -9, About to start on wings...... > > "Michael T. Ice" , > UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is your gain. > > Gerry, > > Why not put them on a tail dragger? > > I am building the 9 as well and although I have never seen a 9 > in person I > have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) have > steps. Is the 9 > low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? > > Mike Ice > Anchorage, AK. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Filby" > To: > Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... > My stupidity > is your gain. > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > > > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger and I opted > > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the shelf > > mocking me ... > > > > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for the price of > > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > > > > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came from Vans. > > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received gets them. > > > > __g__ > > > > ========================================================== > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- __g__ ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Tel: 415 203 9177 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:51 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: Hi Gerry, No you certainly don't need steps on a 9. Even small children easily step over the flaps onto the wingwalk. To the folks in Texas who thinks they are the first taildragger 9, I'm really curious. When was the first flight? I have always thought mine was the first to fly. See this year's Van's calender, month of March. My first flight was 2/22/04. Dennis Thomas RV-9,N164DV 236 hours and loving it --- Gary Robertson wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson > > > Mike & Gerry, > > I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth > area of Texas. A local builder has what I believe > is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this plane > in person, and while I didn't physically get up into > the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY > easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 > if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It > is a beautiful bird! > > Take care, > > Gary Robertson > -9, About to start on wings...... > > "Michael T. Ice" , > UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is > your gain. > > Gerry, > > Why not put them on a tail dragger? > > I am building the 9 as well and although I have > never seen a 9 in person I > have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) > have steps. Is the 9 > low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? > > Mike Ice > Anchorage, AK. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerry Filby" > To: > Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & > right) ... My stupidity > is your gain. > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > > > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger > and I opted > > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the > shelf > > mocking me ... > > > > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for > the price of > > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > > > > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came > from Vans. > > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received > gets them. > > > > __g__ > > > > > ========================================================== > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:14 PM PST US From: "Vic Jacko" Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" The first flight of N9TD (a Texas RV-9) was made by Dave Austin on Jan 30th 2004.. The aircraft was built and owned by Tin Donham. I now own the airplane. Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. > --> RV9-List message posted by: > > Hi Gerry, > No you certainly don't need steps on a 9. Even small > children easily step over the flaps onto the wingwalk. > > To the folks in Texas who thinks they are the first > taildragger 9, I'm really curious. When was the first > flight? I have always thought mine was the first to > fly. See this year's Van's calender, month of March. > My first flight was 2/22/04. > > Dennis Thomas > RV-9,N164DV > 236 hours and loving it > --- Gary Robertson > wrote: > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson >> >> >> Mike & Gerry, >> >> I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth >> area of Texas. A local builder has what I believe >> is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this plane >> in person, and while I didn't physically get up into >> the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY >> easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 >> if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It >> is a beautiful bird! >> >> Take care, >> >> Gary Robertson >> -9, About to start on wings...... >> >> "Michael T. Ice" , >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is >> your gain. >> >> Gerry, >> >> Why not put them on a tail dragger? >> >> I am building the 9 as well and although I have >> never seen a 9 in person I >> have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) >> have steps. Is the 9 >> low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? >> >> Mike Ice >> Anchorage, AK. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gerry Filby" >> To: >> Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & >> right) ... My stupidity >> is your gain. >> >> >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby >> > >> > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger >> and I opted >> > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the >> shelf >> > mocking me ... >> > >> > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for >> the price of >> > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). >> > >> > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came >> from Vans. >> > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received >> gets them. >> > >> > __g__ >> > >> > >> > ========================================================== >> > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com >> > Tel: 415 203 9177 >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> browse >> Subscriptions page, >> FAQ, >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:39 PM PST US From: "Ron Russ" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Canopy jettison --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ron Russ" Randy: I usually ask for Bruce. Ken doesn't belong on the phone. Ron Russ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Russell" Subject: RV9-List: Canopy jettison > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Randy Russell" > > To: Ron Russ > > Thanks for the help. I tried it this morning and it worked great. Too > bad that some of Van's support staff (Ken), talk down to you and make you > feel like an idiot. He said "in the ten years I have been here, I have > NEVER heard of anyone having this problem". Demeaning to my > interpretation. There are other great support staff there. I have had at > least a dozen online and offline contacts who had the same problem from > this list. Sounds like too short of a spring. Easy to remediy. Thanks > again to all those who helped. RV9A finishing C-FYOO (reserved) > Randy > "Do not archive" > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. From: Gerry Filby --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby Interesting point - I wonder how many 9s are now flying ? > > --> RV9-List message posted by: > > Hi Gerry, > No you certainly don't need steps on a 9. Even small > children easily step over the flaps onto the wingwalk. > > To the folks in Texas who thinks they are the first > taildragger 9, I'm really curious. When was the first > flight? I have always thought mine was the first to > fly. See this year's Van's calender, month of March. > My first flight was 2/22/04. > > Dennis Thomas > RV-9,N164DV > 236 hours and loving it > --- Gary Robertson > wrote: > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson > > > > > > Mike & Gerry, > > > > I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth > > area of Texas. A local builder has what I believe > > is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this plane > > in person, and while I didn't physically get up into > > the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY > > easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 > > if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It > > is a beautiful bird! > > > > Take care, > > > > Gary Robertson > > -9, About to start on wings...... > > > > "Michael T. Ice" , > > UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is > > your gain. > > > > Gerry, > > > > Why not put them on a tail dragger? > > > > I am building the 9 as well and although I have > > never seen a 9 in person I > > have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) > > have steps. Is the 9 > > low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? > > > > Mike Ice > > Anchorage, AK. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gerry Filby" > > To: > > Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & > > right) ... My stupidity > > is your gain. > > > > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > > > > > > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger > > and I opted > > > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the > > shelf > > > mocking me ... > > > > > > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for > > the price of > > > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > > > > > > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came > > from Vans. > > > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received > > gets them. > > > > > > __g__ > > > > > > > > > ========================================================== > > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > > > Tel: 415 203 9177 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- __g__ ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Tel: 415 203 9177 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:01 PM PST US From: Gary Robertson Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson Tim's plane is the one I was referring to when I said I had recently seen one. Nice plane! It was also interesting hearing Tim's build story...as a fireman, he had 48-hours stretches at a time to build, build, build (24-on, 48-off). I enjoyed speaking with him. I know the -9 was his second RV to build, and it is my understanding that he is now building a third. Hey Vic, where are you located? Gary Robertson N104GR Reserved -9 (working on wings) Vic Jacko wrote: --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" The first flight of N9TD (a Texas RV-9) was made by Dave Austin on Jan 30th 2004.. The aircraft was built and owned by Tin Donham. I now own the airplane. Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. > --> RV9-List message posted by: > > Hi Gerry, > No you certainly don't need steps on a 9. Even small > children easily step over the flaps onto the wingwalk. > > To the folks in Texas who thinks they are the first > taildragger 9, I'm really curious. When was the first > flight? I have always thought mine was the first to > fly. See this year's Van's calender, month of March. > My first flight was 2/22/04. > > Dennis Thomas > RV-9,N164DV > 236 hours and loving it > --- Gary Robertson > wrote: > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson >> >> >> Mike & Gerry, >> >> I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth >> area of Texas. A local builder has what I believe >> is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this plane >> in person, and while I didn't physically get up into >> the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY >> easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this -9 >> if you send your email address, I will fwd them. It >> is a beautiful bird! >> >> Take care, >> >> Gary Robertson >> -9, About to start on wings...... >> >> "Michael T. Ice" , >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. wrote: >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" is >> your gain. >> >> Gerry, >> >> Why not put them on a tail dragger? >> >> I am building the 9 as well and although I have >> never seen a 9 in person I >> have seen lots of other tail dragger and they (some) >> have steps. Is the 9 >> low enough that you can easily step up on the wing? >> >> Mike Ice >> Anchorage, AK. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gerry Filby" >> To: >> Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & >> right) ... My stupidity >> is your gain. >> >> >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby >> > >> > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 taildragger >> and I opted >> > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on the >> shelf >> > mocking me ... >> > >> > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for >> the price of >> > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). >> > >> > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they came >> from Vans. >> > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment received >> gets them. >> > >> > __g__ >> > >> > >> > ========================================================== >> > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com >> > Tel: 415 203 9177 >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> browse >> Subscriptions page, >> FAQ, >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left & right) ... My stupidity is your gain. --> RV9-List message posted by: Wow! You beat me by 3 weeks and a day. I have always told everyone I was first. I guess I will need to back track. Dennis Thomas --- Vic Jacko wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" > > > The first flight of N9TD (a Texas RV-9) was made > by Dave Austin on Jan > 30th 2004.. The aircraft was built and owned by > Tin Donham. > > I now own the airplane. > > Vic > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit > (left & right) ... My > stupidity is your gain. > > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: > > > > > Hi Gerry, > > No you certainly don't need steps on a 9. Even > small > > children easily step over the flaps onto the > wingwalk. > > > > To the folks in Texas who thinks they are the > first > > taildragger 9, I'm really curious. When was the > first > > flight? I have always thought mine was the first > to > > fly. See this year's Van's calender, month of > March. > > My first flight was 2/22/04. > > > > Dennis Thomas > > RV-9,N164DV > > 236 hours and loving it > > --- Gary Robertson > > wrote: > > > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gary Robertson > >> > >> > >> Mike & Gerry, > >> > >> I am building a -9 here in the Dallas/Fort Worth > >> area of Texas. A local builder has what I > believe > >> is the first -9 to fly. I recently saw this > plane > >> in person, and while I didn't physically get up > into > >> the cockpit, the wing is very low, and looks VERY > >> easy to step up on. I have a few photos of this > -9 > >> if you send your email address, I will fwd them. > It > >> is a beautiful bird! > >> > >> Take care, > >> > >> Gary Robertson > >> -9, About to start on wings...... > >> > >> "Michael T. Ice" , > >> UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. > wrote: > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Michael T. Ice" > is > >> your gain. > >> > >> Gerry, > >> > >> Why not put them on a tail dragger? > >> > >> I am building the 9 as well and although I have > >> never seen a 9 in person I > >> have seen lots of other tail dragger and they > (some) > >> have steps. Is the 9 > >> low enough that you can easily step up on the > wing? > >> > >> Mike Ice > >> Anchorage, AK. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Gerry Filby" > >> To: > >> Subject: RV9-List: FOR SALE: RV-9A step kit (left > & > >> right) ... My stupidity > >> is your gain. > >> > >> > >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby > >> > > >> > What a dummy ... I'm building the RV-9 > taildragger > >> and I opted > >> > for the step kit. I'm tired of them sitting on > the > >> shelf > >> > mocking me ... > >> > > >> > Van's list price is $170 - yours for $85 (2 for > >> the price of > >> > one) plus whatever shipping cost (PayPal). > >> > > >> > They're unpainted, raw steel - just as they > came > >> from Vans. > >> > First email to gerf@gerf.com plus payment > received > >> gets them. > >> > > >> > __g__ > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ========================================================== > >> > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com > >> > Tel: 415 203 9177 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> browse > >> Subscriptions page, > >> FAQ, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >