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     1. 07:50 AM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Tom Callender)
     2. 09:03 AM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     3. 09:46 AM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Folbrecht, Paul)
     4. 11:22 AM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     5. 11:57 AM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Folbrecht, Paul)
     6. 12:15 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Gerry Filby)
     7. 01:30 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Chenoweth)
     8. 01:32 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     9. 01:51 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (Vic Jacko)
    10. 02:24 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Tom Callender" <tcallender@alltel.net>
      
      Congrats John,
      Good Job. I am building a "9", but still a ways from frist flight.
      Tom C
      RV9   N793JT (reserved)
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      Hang in there to the end.  Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      a 3 year period.  When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Tom Callender" <tcallender@alltel.net> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Tom Callender" 
      > 
      > Congrats John, 
      > Good Job. I am building a "9", but still a ways from frist flight. 
      > Tom C 
      > RV9 N793JT (reserved) 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Tom Callender" tcallender@alltel.net 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Tom Callender" <TCALLENDER@ALLTEL.NET>
      
       Congrats John, 
       Good Job. I am building a "9", but still a ways from frist flight. 
       Tom C 
       RV9 N793JT (reserved) 
      
      
       _-
       = * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com! 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
      
      QB or slow build?
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      kerrjohna@comcast.net
      Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      Hang in there to the end.  Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      a 3 year period.  When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans.  I am amazed at the way all the pieces
      come together with the matched holes.  When people come to visit I take them
      to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and
      show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly.  For me the couple of hundred
      hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the most enjoyable
      and educational.  But then, I have been accused of flying to support my building
      habit.
      
      John Kerr
      N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s)  It lands just like a Kitfox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > 
      > 
      > QB or slow build? 
      > 
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > 
      > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      
      > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      
      > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the pieces
      come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I take them
      to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and
      show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the couple of hundred
      hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the most enjoyable and
      educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to support my building
      habit.
      
      John Kerr
      N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a Kitfox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
       <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
       QB or slow build? 
      
       -----Original Message----- 
       From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
       [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
       kerrjohna@comcast.net 
       To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
       Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
       Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      
       a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      
       have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
       <BR
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
      
      Couple hundred hours to get it to QB stage? :-}  That's a lot fewer hours than
      Van's implies you're saving. :-}  Then again, you obviously are a fast builder
      to have built a slow-build in 1500 hours.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      kerrjohna@comcast.net
      Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans.  I am amazed at the way all the pieces
      come together with the matched holes.  When people come to visit I take them
      to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and
      show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly.  For me the couple of hundred
      hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the most enjoyable
      and educational.  But then, I have been accused of flying to support my building
      habit.
      
      John Kerr
      N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s)  It lands just like a Kitfox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > 
      > 
      > QB or slow build? 
      > 
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > 
      > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      
      > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      
      > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the pieces
      come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I take them
      to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and
      show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the couple of hundred
      hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the most enjoyable and
      educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to support my building
      habit.
      
      John Kerr
      N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a Kitfox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
       <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
       QB or slow build? 
      
       -----Original Message----- 
       From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
       [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
       kerrjohna@comcast.net 
       To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
       Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
       Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      
       a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      
       have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
       <BR
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      
      
      Congrats John.  I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      afforded by the pre-punched holes.  When it came time for me to 
      set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      was spot on !  Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      
      Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences.  I'm 
      building a the tail-dragger 9 also.  I've heard some say its 
      quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      float and float.  Would be very interested in the performance 
      numbers you get.
      
      Any more details ?  Slider/Tip-up ?  Powerplant ?
      
      Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      
      g
      
      (RV-9 Finish kit)
      
      > 
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      > 
      > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans.  I am amazed at the 
      > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes.  When 
      > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly.  For me the 
      > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational.  But then, I 
      > have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      > 
      > John Kerr
      > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s)  It lands just 
      > like a Kitfox.
      > 
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com> 
      > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged over
      
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I would
      
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      > 
      > John Kerr
      > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > like a Kitfox.
      > 
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > 
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      >  <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      > 
      >  QB or slow build? 
      > 
      >  -----Original Message----- 
      >  From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      >  kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      >  To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > 
      >  Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > hours logged over 
      >  a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > say that I would 
      >  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > 
      >  <BR
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      -- 
      __g__
      
      ========================================================== 
      Gerry Filby                                  gerf@gerf.com
                         Tel: 415 203 9177
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net>
      
      John,
      Since I am a 9 builder (fuselage on order) and Kitfox builder/pilot perhaps
      you'd elaborate on both your Kitfox landing technique and the similarities
      you've found in the 9.
      Bill
      Maine
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <kerrjohna@comcast.net>
      Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans.  I am amazed at the way all the
      pieces come together with the matched holes.  When people come to visit I
      take them to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage
      bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a
      8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly.  For me the
      couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the
      most enjoyable and educational.  But then, I have been accused of flying to
      support my building habit.
      >
      > John Kerr
      > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s)  It lands just like a
      Kitfox.
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com>
      >
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      > >
      > >
      > > QB or slow build?
      > >
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      > >
      > >
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      > >
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours
      logged over
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      would
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the
      pieces come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I
      take them to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage
      bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a
      8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the
      most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to
      support my building habit.
      >
      > John Kerr
      > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a
      Kitfox.
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >  <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      >
      >  QB or slow build?
      >
      >  -----Original Message----- 
      >  From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >  kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >  To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged
      over
      >  a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      would
      >  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >  <BR
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
Message 8
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an apparent
      pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just flew by attitude
      and waited for it to touch.  It may end up being the best landing I ever make
      but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 3-point; one approach, one
      landing, zero bounce.  One tip I got from Mike Seagar was to reduce idle to 500
      to allow it to slow down more.  I really felt like I was in my Kitfox touching
      down at around 50mph.
      
      I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back behind
      the panel to look for that pitot leak.  I have checked all of the connections
      from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to check the fittings
      for leaks.
      
      I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves for under
      $18000.  I am pleased so far.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      > 
      > 
      > Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      > afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
      > set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      > was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      > 
      > Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
      > building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
      > quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      > float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
      > numbers you get. 
      > 
      > Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      > 
      > Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      > 
      > g 
      > 
      > (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      > 
      > > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
      > > have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > QB or slow build? 
      > > > 
      > > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > > 
      > > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged
      
      > over 
      > > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      
      > would 
      > > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > > been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > > hours logged over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > > say that I would 
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > -- 
      > __g__ 
      > 
      > ========================================================== 
      > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > Tel: 415 203 9177 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an apparent
      pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just flew by attitude
      and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best landing I ever make
      but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 3-point; one approach, one
      landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike Seagar was to reduce idle to 500
      to allow it to slow down more. I really felt like I was in my Kitfox touching
      down at around 50mph.
      
      I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back behind
      the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the connections from
      underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to check the fittings
      for leaks.
      
      I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves for under
      $18000. I am pleased so far.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      
      
       Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
       afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
       set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
       was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      
       Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
       building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
       quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
       float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
       numbers you get. 
      
       Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      
       Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      
       g 
      
      
       (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
        fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
        have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
         -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
         
         QB or slow build? 
         
         -----Original Message----- 
         From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
         [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
         kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
         
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged 
       over 
         a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
       would 
      
        have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
         
         
         
         
         
         
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
        fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
        been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land
       s just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
        <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
        -----Original Message----- 
        From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
        [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
        hours logged over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
        say that I would 
      &g
       t;  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
       -- 
       __g__ 
      
       ========================================================== 
       Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
       Tel: 415 203 9177 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
      
      I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at 
      the right time with full flaps.  It is a breeze to land with  one notch of 
      flaps (about one third)   When you get it right with full  flaps it is so 
      sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing
      
      
      Vic,
      
      do not archive
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <kerrjohna@comcast.net>
      Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch.  It may end up being the best 
      > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce.  One tip I got from Mike 
      > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more.  I really 
      > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >
      > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak.  I have checked all of the 
      > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > check the fittings for leaks.
      >
      > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > for under $18000.  I am pleased so far.
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
      >
      >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby
      >>
      >>
      >> Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      >> afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to
      >> set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      >> was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >>
      >> Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      >> building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      >> quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      >> float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      >> numbers you get.
      >>
      >> Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >>
      >> Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >>
      >> g
      >>
      >> (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >>
      >> >
      >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I
      >> > have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >
      >> > John Kerr
      >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >
      >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > > QB or slow build?
      >> > >
      >> > > -----Original Message----- 
      >> > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> > > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> > >
      >> > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      >> > > logged
      >> over
      >> > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say 
      >> > > that I
      >> would
      >> > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> > >
      >> >
      >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >> > been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >
      >> > John Kerr
      >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > QB or slow build?
      >> >
      >> > -----Original Message----- 
      >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >> > hours logged over
      >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >> > say that I would
      >> > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >>
      >> -- 
      >> __g__
      >>
      >> ==========================================================
      >> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >> Tel: 415 203 9177
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
      > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
      > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >
      > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
      > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > check the fittings for leaks.
      >
      > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > for under $18000. I am pleased so far.
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >
      > -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      >
      >
      > Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      > afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to
      > set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      > was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >
      > Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      > building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      > quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      > float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      > numbers you get.
      >
      > Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >
      > Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >
      > g
      >
      >
      > (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >  way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >  people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >  fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >  5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >  tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >  couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >  were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I
      >  have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >  John Kerr
      >  N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >  like a Kitfox.
      >
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      >
      >   -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >
      >
      >   QB or slow build?
      >
      >   -----Original Message----- 
      >   From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >   [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >   kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >   To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >   Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >   -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >   Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > logged
      > over
      >   a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      > would
      >
      >  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      >  slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >  way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >  people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >  fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >  5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >  tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >  couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >  were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >  been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >  John Kerr
      >  N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land
      > s just
      >  like a Kitfox.
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >  <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      >
      >  QB or slow build?
      >
      >  -----Original Message----- 
      >  From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >  kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >  To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >  hours logged over
      >  a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >  say that I would
      > &g
      > t;  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      > -- 
      > __g__
      >
      > ==========================================================
      > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      > Tel: 415 203 9177
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      recognizing that I only one landing with the 9, and 15 or so flying with Mike Seagar
      in the 7 I will say at this point that the 9 with full flaps handles very
      similar to the Kitfox with no flaps, both a little draggy but a lot of float
      if to fast on the approach.
      
      One thing Seagar emphacized was to base at 75mph as compared to 85 in the 7.  The
      book stall dirty for the 9 is around 50 mph.  1.3 times that is 65.  I am curious
      to see how that works out also as I explore the envelope.  Because of the
      pitot problem I have no idea what my speed was but it felt like the flare in
      the K'fox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Chenoweth" <chenoweth@gwi.net> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" 
      > 
      > John, 
      > Since I am a 9 builder (fuselage on order) and Kitfox builder/pilot perhaps 
      > you'd elaborate on both your Kitfox landing technique and the similarities 
      > you've found in the 9. 
      > Bill 
      > Maine 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: 
      > To: 
      > Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the 
      > pieces come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I 
      > take them to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage 
      > bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a
      
      > 8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the 
      > most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to 
      > support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a 
      > Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > QB or slow build? 
      > > > 
      > > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > > 
      > > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > logged over 
      > > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      
      > would 
      > > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > > 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the 
      > pieces come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I 
      > take them to the point where the square fuselage ends at the square baggage 
      > bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a
      
      > 8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the 
      > most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to 
      > support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a 
      > Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged 
      > over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
      > would 
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      recognizing that I only one landing with the 9, and 15 or so flying with Mike Seagar
      in the 7 I will say at this point that the 9 with full flaps handles very
      similar to the Kitfox with no flaps, both a little draggy but a lot of float
      if to fast on the approach.
      
      One thing Seagar emphacized was tobase at 75mph as compared to 85 in the 7. The
      book stall dirty for the 9 is around 50 mph. 1.3 times that is 65. I am curious
      to see how that works out also as I explore the envelope. Because of the pitot
      problem I have no idea what my speed was but it felt like the flare in the
      K'fox.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Chenoweth" chenoweth@gwi.net 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Chenoweth" <CHENOWETH@GWI.NET>
      
       John, 
       Since I am a 9 builder (fuselage on order) and Kitfox builder/pilot perhaps 
       you'd elaborate on both your Kitfox landing technique and the similarities 
       you've found in the 9. 
       Bill 
       Maine 
       ----- Original Message ----- 
       From: <KERRJOHNA@COMCAST.NET>
       To: <RV9-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
       Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the 
       pieces come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I 
       take them to the point where the s
       quare fuselage ends at the square baggage 
       bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 
       8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
       couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the 
       most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to 
       support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a 
       Kitfox. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
         -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
         
         QB or slow build? 
         
         -----Original Message----- 
         From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com <
       BR>   [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
         kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
         
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
       logged over 
         a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
       would 
         have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
         
         
         
         
         
         
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the way all the 
       pieces come together with the matched holes. When people come to visit I 
       take them to the point where 
       the square fuselage ends at the square baggage 
       bulkhead and show them the 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 
       8" radius and tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
       couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage were amoung the 
       most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have been accused of flying to 
       support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just like a 
       Kitfox. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
        <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
        -----Original Message----- 
        From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com <BR
       >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours logged 
       over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
       would 
        have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
       ore about 
       ============== 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      Vic, you have a lot of Kitfox time.  Do you see an similarities?
      
      John
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" 
      > 
      > I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at 
      > the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of 
      > flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so 
      > sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing 
      > 
      > 
      > Vic, 
      > 
      > do not archive 
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: 
      > To: 
      > Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
      > > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      > > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
      > > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      > > 
      > > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
      > > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > > check the fittings for leaks. 
      > > 
      > > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > > for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: Gerry Filby 
      > > 
      > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      > >> afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
      > >> set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      > >> was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      > >> 
      > >> Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
      > >> building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
      > >> quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      > >> float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
      > >> numbers you get. 
      > >> 
      > >> Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      > >> 
      > >> Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      > >> 
      > >> g 
      > >> 
      > >> (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      > >> 
      > >> > 
      > >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > 
      > >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
      > >> > have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > John Kerr 
      > >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > >> > like a Kitfox. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > 
      > >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > QB or slow build? 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > -----Original Message----- 
      > >> > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > >> > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > >> > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > >> > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > >> > > logged 
      > >> over 
      > >> > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say 
      > >> > > that I 
      > >> would 
      > >> > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > >> > been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > John Kerr 
      > >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > >> > like a Kitfox. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > QB or slow build? 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -----Original Message----- 
      > >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > 
      > >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > >> > hours logged over 
      > >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > >> > say that I would 
      > >> > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> 
      > >> -- 
      > >> __g__ 
      > >> 
      > >> ========================================================== 
      > >> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > >> Tel: 415 203 9177 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > > 
      > > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
      > > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      > > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
      > > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      > > 
      > > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
      > > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > > check the fittings for leaks. 
      > > 
      > > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > > for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      > > afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
      > > set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      > > was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      > > 
      > > Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
      > > building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
      > > quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      > > float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
      > > numbers you get. 
      > > 
      > > Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      > > 
      > > Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      > > 
      > > g 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
      > > have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > > logged 
      > > over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
      > > would 
      > > 
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > > been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land 
      > > s just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > > hours logged over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > > say that I would 
      > > &g 
      > > t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- 
      > > __g__ 
      > > 
      > > ========================================================== 
      > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > > Tel: 415 203 9177 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      Vic, you have a lot of Kitfox time. Do you see an similarities?
      
      John
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Vic Jacko" vicwj@earthlink.net 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <VICWJ@EARTHLINK.NET>
      
       I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at 
       the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of 
       flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so 
       sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing 
      
      
       Vic, 
      
       do not archive 
      
      
       ----- Original Message ----- 
       From: <KERRJOHNA@COMCAST.NET>
       To: <RV9-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
       Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        I didn't have the benefit of indicated air 
       speed on final because of an 
        apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
        flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
        landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
        3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
        Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
        felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      
        I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
        behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
        connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
        check the fittings for leaks. 
      
        I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
        for under $18000. I am p
       leased so far. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      
      
        Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
        afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
        set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
        was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      
        Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
        building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
        quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
        float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
        numbers you get. 
      
        Any more details ? Slider/
       Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      
        Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      
        g 
      
        (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
         way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
         people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
         5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
         tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
         couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
         were amoung the most enjoyable and educational
       . But then, I 
         have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
         
         John Kerr 
         N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
         like a Kitfox. 
         
         -------------- Original message -------------- 
         From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
          -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
          
          
          QB or slow build? 
          
          -----Original Message----- 
          From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
          [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
          kerrjohna@comcast.net 
          To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
          
          
          -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
          
          Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
          logged 
        over 
          a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say 
          that I 
        would 
          have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
          
          
          
          
          
          
         
         slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
         way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
         5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
         tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
         couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
         were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
         been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
         
         John Kerr 
         N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
         like a Kitfox. 
         
         -------------- Original message -------------- 
         From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
         
         -- RV9-List message 
       posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
         
         QB or slow build? 
         
         -----Original Message----- 
         From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
         [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
         kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
         
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
         hours logged over 
         a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
         say that I would 
         have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
      
        -- 
        __g__ 
      
        Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
        Tel: 415 203 9177 
      
      
        I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
        apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
        flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
        landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
        3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      &g
       t;  Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
        felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      
        I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
        behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
        connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
        check the fittings for leaks. 
      
        I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
        for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      
      
        Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
        afforded by the pre-punched holes. When i
       t came time for me to 
        set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
        was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      
        Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
        building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
        quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
        float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
        numbers you get. 
      
        Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      
        Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      
        g 
      
      
        (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. Whe
       n 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
        fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
        have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
      &g
       t;  -----Original Message----- 
        From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
        [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
        logged 
        over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
        would 
      
        have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
        been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land 
        s just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
        <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
        -----Original Message----- 
        From:
        owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
        [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
        hours logged over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
        say that I would 
        g 
        t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
        -- 
        __g__ 
      
        Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
        Tel: 415 203 9177 
      
      
       ================================ 
       such as the Subscriptions page, 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      
      Vic, sorry for the being too quick on the send button.  What are you using for
      your approach, flair, touchdown speeds?
      
      John
      
      PS.  It is fun to kibutz with you guys about the first flight experience, almost
      like all the enthusiasm those of us on the Kitfox list see all the time.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> 
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" 
      > 
      > I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at 
      > the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of 
      > flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so 
      > sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing 
      > 
      > 
      > Vic, 
      > 
      > do not archive 
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: 
      > To: 
      > Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > 
      > 
      > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
      > > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      > > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
      > > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      > > 
      > > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
      > > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > > check the fittings for leaks. 
      > > 
      > > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > > for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: Gerry Filby 
      > > 
      > >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      > >> afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
      > >> set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      > >> was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      > >> 
      > >> Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
      > >> building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
      > >> quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      > >> float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
      > >> numbers you get. 
      > >> 
      > >> Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      > >> 
      > >> Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      > >> 
      > >> g 
      > >> 
      > >> (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      > >> 
      > >> > 
      > >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > 
      > >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
      > >> > have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > John Kerr 
      > >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > >> > like a Kitfox. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > 
      > >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > QB or slow build? 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > -----Original Message----- 
      > >> > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > >> > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > >> > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > >> > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > >> > > logged 
      > >> over 
      > >> > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say 
      > >> > > that I 
      > >> would 
      > >> > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > >> > been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > John Kerr 
      > >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > >> > like a Kitfox. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > QB or slow build? 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -----Original Message----- 
      > >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > >> > 
      > >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > >> > hours logged over 
      > >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > >> > say that I would 
      > >> > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> > 
      > >> 
      > >> -- 
      > >> __g__ 
      > >> 
      > >> ========================================================== 
      > >> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > >> Tel: 415 203 9177 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > > 
      > > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
      > > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
      > > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
      > > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
      > > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      > > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
      > > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      > > 
      > > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
      > > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
      > > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
      > > check the fittings for leaks. 
      > > 
      > > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
      > > for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
      > > afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
      > > set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
      > > was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      > > 
      > > Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
      > > building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
      > > quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
      > > float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
      > > numbers you get. 
      > > 
      > > Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      > > 
      > > Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      > > 
      > > g 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
      > > have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
      > > logged 
      > > over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
      > > would 
      > > 
      > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
      > > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      > > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      > > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
      > > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
      > > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
      > > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
      > > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
      > > been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      > > 
      > > John Kerr 
      > > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land 
      > > s just 
      > > like a Kitfox. 
      > > 
      > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > QB or slow build? 
      > > 
      > > -----Original Message----- 
      > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
      > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
      > > kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
      > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
      > > hours logged over 
      > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
      > > say that I would 
      > > &g 
      > > t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > -- 
      > > __g__ 
      > > 
      > > ========================================================== 
      > > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      > > Tel: 415 203 9177 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      Vic, sorry for the being too quick on the send button. What are you using for your
      approach, flair, touchdown speeds?
      
      John
      
      PS. It is fun to kibutz with you guys about the first flight experience, almost
      like all the enthusiasm those of us on the Kitfox list see all the time.
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Vic Jacko" vicwj@earthlink.net 
      
       -- RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <VICWJ@EARTHLINK.NET>
      
       I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at 
       the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of 
       flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so 
       sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing 
      
      
       Vic, 
      
       do not archive 
      
      
       ----- Original Message ----- 
       From: <KERRJOHNA@COMCAST.NET>
       To: <RV9-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
       Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        I didn't have the benefit of indicated air 
       speed on final because of an 
        apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
        flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
        landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
        3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
        Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
        felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      
        I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
        behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
        connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
        check the fittings for leaks. 
      
        I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
        for under $18000. I am p
       leased so far. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby 
      
      
        Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
        afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to 
        set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
        was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      
        Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
        building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
        quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
        float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
        numbers you get. 
      
        Any more details ? Slider/
       Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      
        Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      
        g 
      
        (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
         way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
         people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
         5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
         tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
         couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
         were amoung the most enjoyable and educational
       . But then, I 
         have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
         
         John Kerr 
         N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
         like a Kitfox. 
         
         -------------- Original message -------------- 
         From: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
          -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
          
          
          QB or slow build? 
          
          -----Original Message----- 
          From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
          [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
          kerrjohna@comcast.net 
          To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
          
          
          -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
          
          Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
          logged 
        over 
          a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say 
          that I 
        would 
          have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
          
          
          
          
          
          
         
         slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
         way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
      
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
         5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
         tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
         couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
         were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
         been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
         
         John Kerr 
         N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
         like a Kitfox. 
         
         -------------- Original message -------------- 
         From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
         
         -- RV9-List message 
       posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
         
         
         QB or slow build? 
         
         -----Original Message----- 
         From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
         [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
         kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
         Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
         
         
         -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
         
         Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
         hours logged over 
         a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
         say that I would 
         have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
         
      
        -- 
        __g__ 
      
        Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
        Tel: 415 203 9177 
      
      
        I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an 
        apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just 
        flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best 
        landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to 
        3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike 
      &g
       t;  Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really 
        felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph. 
      
        I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back 
        behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the 
        connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to 
        check the fittings for leaks. 
      
        I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves 
        for under $18000. I am pleased so far. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      
      
        Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy 
        afforded by the pre-punched holes. When i
       t came time for me to 
        set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it 
        was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ... 
      
        Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm 
        building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its 
        quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to 
        float and float. Would be very interested in the performance 
        numbers you get. 
      
        Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ? 
      
        Best of luck with Phase 1 !! 
      
        g 
      
      
        (RV-9 Finish kit) 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. Whe
       n 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
        fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I 
        have been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
      
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
      &g
       t;  -----Original Message----- 
        From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
        [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours 
        logged 
        over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I 
        would 
      
        have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
        slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the 
        way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When 
        people come to visit I take them to the point where the square 
      
         fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the 
        5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and 
        tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the 
        couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage 
        were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have 
        been accused of flying to support my building habit. 
      
        John Kerr 
        N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land 
        s just 
        like a Kitfox. 
      
        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com 
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul" 
        <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      
        QB or slow build? 
      
        -----Original Message----- 
        From:
        owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com 
        [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 
        kerrjohna@comcast.net 
        To: rv9-list@matronics.com 
        Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT 
      
      
        -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net 
      
        Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 
        hours logged over 
        a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just 
        say that I would 
        g 
        t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this. 
      
      
        -- 
        __g__ 
      
        Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com 
        Tel: 415 203 9177 
      
      
       ================================ 
       such as the Subscriptions page, 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "fcs@jlc.net" <fcs@jlc.net>
      
      
       John,  A pitot-static check and logbook endorsement is supposedly required
      prior to first flight.  You really should do this to find that leak and
      make sure your Dynon, steam gauges, and encoder are all in agreement before
      venturing into any crowded airspace.  It's worth the $100 bucks or so, and
      should be done very two years.
      
      Congrats on the fine accomplishment!
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FIRST FLIGHT | 
      
      --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
      
      Yes, there is a similarity in the same manner as mention.  I hold about 70 
      on final then pull  it back to about 65 and let it bleed off from that point 
      to a stall at 50 with full flaps.  The Kitfox did about the same thing 
      except I did not use flaps.
      
      I sure miss the Series 5 Fox!
      
      
      Vic
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <kerrjohna@comcast.net>
      Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      
      
      > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      > Vic, you have a lot of Kitfox time.  Do you see an similarities?
      >
      > John
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
      >
      >> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko"
      >>
      >> I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point 
      >> at
      >> the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of
      >> flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so
      >> sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing
      >>
      >>
      >> Vic,
      >>
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From:
      >> To:
      >> Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >>
      >>
      >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an
      >> > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just
      >> > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the 
      >> > best
      >> > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to
      >> > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from 
      >> > Mike
      >> > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I 
      >> > really
      >> > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >> >
      >> > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back
      >> > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the
      >> > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to
      >> > check the fittings for leaks.
      >> >
      >> > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened 
      >> > sleaves
      >> > for under $18000. I am pleased so far.
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: Gerry Filby
      >> >
      >> >> --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >> Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      >> >> afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to
      >> >> set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      >> >> was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >> >>
      >> >> Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      >> >> building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      >> >> quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      >> >> float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      >> >> numbers you get.
      >> >>
      >> >> Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >> >>
      >> >> Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >> >>
      >> >> g
      >> >>
      >> >> (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >> >>
      >> >> >
      >> >> > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >> >
      >> >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I
      >> >> > have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >> >
      >> >> > John Kerr
      >> >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >> >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >> >
      >> >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >> >
      >> >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > QB or slow build?
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > -----Original Message----- 
      >> >> > > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> >> > > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> >> > > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >> > > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> >> > > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > --> RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours
      >> >> > > logged
      >> >> over
      >> >> > > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say
      >> >> > > that I
      >> >> would
      >> >> > > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do 
      >> >> > > this.
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> > >
      >> >> >
      >> >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >> >> > been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >> >
      >> >> > John Kerr
      >> >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >> >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >> >
      >> >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >> >> >
      >> >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> > QB or slow build?
      >> >> >
      >> >> > -----Original Message----- 
      >> >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >> >
      >> >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >> >> > hours logged over
      >> >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >> >> > say that I would
      >> >> > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do 
      >> >> > this.
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >> >
      >> >>
      >> >> -- 
      >> >> __g__
      >> >>
      >> >> ==========================================================
      >> >> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >> >> Tel: 415 203 9177
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >>
      >> >
      >> > I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an
      >> > apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just
      >> > flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the 
      >> > best
      >> > landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to
      >> > 3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from 
      >> > Mike
      >> > Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I 
      >> > really
      >> > felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >> >
      >> > I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back
      >> > behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the
      >> > connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to
      >> > check the fittings for leaks.
      >> >
      >> > I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened 
      >> > sleaves
      >> > for under $18000. I am pleased so far.
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      >> > afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to
      >> > set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      >> > was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >> >
      >> > Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      >> > building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      >> > quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      >> > float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      >> > numbers you get.
      >> >
      >> > Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >> >
      >> > Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >> >
      >> > g
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I
      >> > have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >
      >> > John Kerr
      >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > QB or slow build?
      >> >
      >> > -----Original Message----- 
      >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours
      >> > logged
      >> > over
      >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that 
      >> > I
      >> > would
      >> >
      >> > have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >> > way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >> > people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >> > fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >> > 5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >> > tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >> > couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >> > were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >> > been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >> >
      >> > John Kerr
      >> > N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land
      >> > s just
      >> > like a Kitfox.
      >> >
      >> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >> > From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > QB or slow build?
      >> >
      >> > -----Original Message----- 
      >> > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >> > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >> > kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> > To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >> > Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >> >
      >> > Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >> > hours logged over
      >> > a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >> > say that I would
      >> > &g
      >> > t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do 
      >> > this.
      >> >
      >> >
      >> > -- 
      >> > __g__
      >> >
      >> > ==========================================================
      >> > Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >> > Tel: 415 203 9177
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      > Vic, you have a lot of Kitfox time. Do you see an similarities?
      >
      > John
      >
      > -------------- Original message -------------- 
      > From: "Vic Jacko" vicwj@earthlink.net
      >
      > -- RV9-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <VICWJ@EARTHLINK.NET>
      >
      > I am flying a nine that is somewhat difficult to get in the three point at
      > the right time with full flaps. It is a breeze to land with one notch of
      > flaps (about one third) When you get it right with full flaps it is so
      > sweet! This airplane really likes to fly even when landing
      >
      >
      > Vic,
      >
      > do not archive
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: <KERRJOHNA@COMCAST.NET>
      > To: <RV9-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
      > Subject: RE: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  I didn't have the benefit of indicated air
      > speed on final because of an
      >  apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just
      >  flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best
      >  landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to
      >  3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike
      >  Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I really
      >  felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >
      >  I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back
      >  behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the
      >  connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to
      >  check the fittings for leaks.
      >
      >  I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves
      >  for under $18000. I am p
      > leased so far.
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby
      >
      >
      >  Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      >  afforded by the pre-punched holes. When it came time for me to
      >  set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      >  was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >
      >  Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      >  building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      >  quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      >  float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      >  numbers you get.
      >
      >  Any more details ? Slider/
      > Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >
      >  Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >
      >  g
      >
      >  (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >
      >
      >   -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >   slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >   way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >   people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >   fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >   5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >   tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >   couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >   were amoung the most enjoyable and educational
      > . But then, I
      >   have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >   John Kerr
      >   N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >   like a Kitfox.
      >
      >   -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >   From: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >
      >    -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >
      >
      >    QB or slow build?
      >
      >    -----Original Message----- 
      >    From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >    [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >    kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >    To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >    -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >    Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours
      >    logged
      >  over
      >    a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say
      >    that I
      >  would
      >    have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      >   slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >   way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >
      >  people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >   fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >   5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >   tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >   couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >   were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >   been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >   John Kerr
      >   N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >   like a Kitfox.
      >
      >   -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >   From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >
      >   -- RV9-List message
      > posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >
      >
      >   QB or slow build?
      >
      >   -----Original Message----- 
      >   From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >   [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >   kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >   To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >   Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >   -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >   Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >   hours logged over
      >   a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >   say that I would
      >   have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      >  -- 
      >  __g__
      >
      >  Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >  Tel: 415 203 9177
      >
      >
      >  I didn't have the benefit of indicated air speed on final because of an
      >  apparent pitot leak that I have not yet been able to identify so I just
      >  flew by attitude and waited for it to touch. It may end up being the best
      >  landing I ever make but it certainly was not difficult to get it to
      >  3-point; one approach, one landing, zero bounce. One tip I got from Mike
      > &g
      > t;  Seagar was to reduce idle to 500 to allow it to slow down more. I 
      > really
      >  felt like I was in my Kitfox touching down at around 50mph.
      >
      >  I built the slider because it looks cooler but it is a pain to get back
      >  behind the panel to look for that pitot leak. I have checked all of the
      >  connections from underneath but may have to remove the ASI and Dynon to
      >  check the fittings for leaks.
      >
      >  I got a Penn Yan xe320 with dual electronic ignition and hardened sleaves
      >  for under $18000. I am pleased so far.
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <GERF@GERF.COM>
      >
      >
      >  Congrats John. I totally agree with you about the accuracy
      >  afforded by the pre-punched holes. When i
      > t came time for me to
      >  set the wing incidence/sweep etc - there was NOTHING to do - it
      >  was spot on ! Drill the holes and lock it down ...
      >
      >  Do post a digest of your flight testing experiences. I'm
      >  building a the tail-dragger 9 also. I've heard some say its
      >  quite difficult to execute 3 point landings - it just wants to
      >  float and float. Would be very interested in the performance
      >  numbers you get.
      >
      >  Any more details ? Slider/Tip-up ? Powerplant ?
      >
      >  Best of luck with Phase 1 !!
      >
      >  g
      >
      >
      >  (RV-9 Finish kit)
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >  way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. Whe
      > n
      >  people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >  fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >  5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >  tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >  couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >  were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I
      >  have been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >  John Kerr
      >  N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It lands just
      >  like a Kitfox.
      >
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: "Folbrecht, Paul" <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >
      >
      >  QB or slow build?
      >
      > &g
      > t;  -----Original Message----- 
      >  From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >  kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >  To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500 hours
      >  logged
      >  over
      >  a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just say that I
      >  would
      >
      >  have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      >  slow-build, with all flat metal from Vans. I am amazed at the
      >  way all the pieces come together with the matched holes. When
      >  people come to visit I take them to the point where the square
      >
      >   fuselage ends at the square baggage bulkhead and show them the
      >  5 pieces all come together in a smooth blend to a 8" radius and
      >  tell them that all of the holes matched perfectly. For me the
      >  couple of hundred hours getting it to the quick build stage
      >  were amoung the most enjoyable and educational. But then, I have
      >  been accused of flying to support my building habit.
      >
      >  John Kerr
      >  N927BJ, 90616 (one of only a dozen or so "9"s) It land
      >  s just
      >  like a Kitfox.
      >
      >  -------------- Original message -------------- 
      >  From: "Folbrecht, Paul" PFolbrecht@starkinvestments.com
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: "Folbrecht, Paul"
      >  <PFOLBRECHT@STARKINVESTMENTS.COM>
      >
      >  QB or slow build?
      >
      >  -----Original Message----- 
      >  From:
      >  owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
      >  [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      >  kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >  To: rv9-list@matronics.com
      >  Subject: Re: RV9-List: FIRST FLIGHT
      >
      >
      >  -- RV9-List message posted by: kerrjohna@comcast.net
      >
      >  Hang in there to the end. Mine was completed with about 1500
      >  hours logged over
      >  a 3 year period. When people gasp at the "committment" I just
      >  say that I would
      >  g
      >  t; have done something with those hours anyway, I just chose to do this.
      >
      >
      >  -- 
      >  __g__
      >
      >  Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
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