---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/15/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:35 AM - Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (Snow, Daniel A.) 2. 06:43 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (jc@INFONET.COM.BR) 3. 07:15 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (Carlos Trigo) 4. 08:44 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (jc@INFONET.COM.BR) 5. 08:49 AM - Inst panel hole cutting (Don/Marcia Piermattei) 6. 09:35 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (Ernie & Margo) 7. 10:12 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (Bill Repucci) 8. 10:22 AM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (Gerry Filby) 9. 12:07 PM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (John Disher) 10. 02:21 PM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? (JohnCClarkVA@cs.com) 11. 06:54 PM - Re: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:26 AM PST US Subject: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? From: "Snow, Daniel A." --> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the control stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs are preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me how much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed? thanks ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:58 AM PST US From: jc@INFONET.COM.BR Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br Ive just installed it per plans e no problem. Dont worried about it and go on. It will be fine. After the first few hours you could decide about cut or not the control stick. My option ie "not cut". JC - Aracaju - Brasil RV-9A Flying 125 hs PU-JCI wesites.exprecraft.com/jcmm ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:43 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" Ol JC Pelo que estou vendo, tem voado bastante. O meu ainda falta um pouco. J montei o motor Subaru, mas falta a cowling , terminar a canopy, alguma coisa de fios elctricos e instrumentos, e a pintura. Um abrao Carlos Trigo Portugal ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? > --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br > > Ive just installed it per plans e no problem. > Dont worried about it and go on. > It will be fine. > > After the first few hours you could decide about cut or not the control > stick. My option > ie "not cut". > > JC - Aracaju - Brasil > RV-9A > Flying 125 hs > PU-JCI > wesites.exprecraft.com/jcmm ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:21 AM PST US From: jc@INFONET.COM.BR Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br Ol Carlos: Bom receber notcias suas. Espero que esteja gostando do trabalho de montar o RV-9A. O PU-JCI uma excelente mquina. Mesmo com hlice de passo fixo ainda fao uns 150 Knots ao nvel do mar, com 30C, com 30 litros/hora. Bom demais. Abaixo transcrevi em ingls para evitar chateao do moderador da lista. Abraos JC (Its so good to receive some news from you. Hope you are haveing fun building the RV-9A. The PU-JCI is an excelent flying machine. Even with a fixed pitch prop it flies at 150 knots at sea level air temp 30C and 30 l/h. Nice.) JC ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:53 AM PST US From: "Don/Marcia Piermattei" Subject: RV9-List: Inst panel hole cutting --> RV9-List message posted by: "Don/Marcia Piermattei" From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" Subject: RV-List: Inst panel hole cutting Dean, I have done 2 VM 1000 panels using hand tools. I cut a rough opening with a saber saw, then lots of filing. It can be done. Don Piermattei RV-9A 192 DP ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:35 AM PST US From: "Ernie & Margo" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernie & Margo" Daniel and others: I don't understand how you can have a "problem" with the seat floor ribs. You should resolve this problem - or at least understand the implications, after you have fully installed the elevators, push tubes and temporarily installed the sticks. I used a string to imitate the panel bottom edge by connecting it to the side air vents where the panel bottom should be. I then determined how much I needed to shorten the two sticks, in order to clear the panel bottom. I wanted the sticks fairly long since the RV-9A would be fairly sensitive to handling. A short stick would make handling more "touchy". I would not want a first flight where I needed more forward stick travel - - and the panel blocked it. I cut my sticks, somewhat. Consider the consequences of a lack of full stick travel. I hope that this is the problem you were asking about. . . . ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the control > stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs are > preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me how > much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed? > > thanks ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:42 AM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" FYI - I had the same concern when I first installed my sticks. They hit the throttle quadrant I installed, the panel, everywhere. Once the elevators and ailerons were installed they no longer hit as the flight surfaces would hit their respective stops before the sticks would hit the panel, and that is with the wood grips in place. AS someone else mentioned, don't cut them until your plane is fully assembled. Bill RV-9 Finishing kit www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernie & Margo Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernie & Margo" Daniel and others: I don't understand how you can have a "problem" with the seat floor ribs. You should resolve this problem - or at least understand the implications, after you have fully installed the elevators, push tubes and temporarily installed the sticks. I used a string to imitate the panel bottom edge by connecting it to the side air vents where the panel bottom should be. I then determined how much I needed to shorten the two sticks, in order to clear the panel bottom. I wanted the sticks fairly long since the RV-9A would be fairly sensitive to handling. A short stick would make handling more "touchy". I would not want a first flight where I needed more forward stick travel - - and the panel blocked it. I cut my sticks, somewhat. Consider the consequences of a lack of full stick travel. I hope that this is the problem you were asking about. . . . ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > --> > I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the > control > stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs are > preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me how > much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed? > > thanks ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? From: Gerry Filby --> RV9-List message posted by: Gerry Filby I found that my stick reached full forward travel before touching the panel - elevator's, push-pull tubes and bellcrank all connected ... g > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernie & Margo" > > Daniel and others: > > I don't understand how you can have a "problem" with the seat > floor ribs. > You should resolve this problem - or at least understand the > implications, > after you have fully installed the elevators, push tubes and > temporarily > installed the sticks. I used a string to imitate the panel > bottom edge by > connecting it to the side air vents where the panel bottom > should be. I > then determined how much I needed to shorten the two sticks, in > order to > clear the panel bottom. I wanted the sticks fairly long since the RV-9A > would be fairly sensitive to handling. A short stick would > make handling > more "touchy". I would not want a first flight where I needed > more forward > stick travel - - and the panel blocked it. I cut my sticks, somewhat. > Consider the consequences of a lack of full stick travel. I > hope that this > is the problem you were asking about. . . . > > ----- Original Message ----- > > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > > I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the control > > stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs are > > preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me how > > much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- __g__ ========================================================== Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com Tel: 415 203 9177 ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:07:57 PM PST US From: "John Disher" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "John Disher" I had problems at first with the column cross bar hitting the floor ribs even after the elevator and stops were installed. To cure this I had to increase the length of the short forward control tube. When I got to look= ing at it closely, I could see the need to do this because with the elevator = in center position the stick was way out of perpendicular. Once I changed th= at there was no problem. I'm really sorry at this point that I welded or riveted all the control tube ends in before I really got everything assembled. Van's drawings and figures aren't always right and don't even work out true on his quick-build stuff that is already together. I think = I saw someone calling it being "VANdalized" -------Original Message------- From: Ernie & Margo Subject: Re: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: "Ernie & Margo" Daniel and others: I don't understand how you can have a "problem" with the seat floor ribs.= You should resolve this problem - or at least understand the implications= , after you have fully installed the elevators, push tubes and temporarily installed the sticks. I used a string to imitate the panel bottom edge b= y connecting it to the side air vents where the panel bottom should be. I then determined how much I needed to shorten the two sticks, in order to clear the panel bottom. I wanted the sticks fairly long since the RV-9A would be fairly sensitive to handling. A short stick would make handling= more "touchy". I would not want a first flight where I needed more forwa= rd stick travel - - and the panel blocked it. I cut my sticks, somewhat. Consider the consequences of a lack of full stick travel. I hope that th= is is the problem you were asking about. . . . ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the control= > stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs ar= e > preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me = how > much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed= ? > > thanks = = = = ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:57 PM PST US From: JohnCClarkVA@cs.com Subject: RE: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: JohnCClarkVA@cs.com The problem may be interference with the throttle knob. I cut some off the stick so that it would not get hung up under the throttle when it is pulled out. "Snow, Daniel A." wrote: >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > >I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know how far the control stick needs to travel in the forward direction. The seat floor ribs are preventing mine from touching the panel. Could someone please tell me how much forward travel the control stick needs with the elevator installed? > >thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:01 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV9-List: Control Column Travel Beyond Panel? --> RV9-List message posted by: Hi Folks, Your making way too much of a deal about this. Any time you second guess the designer your looking for trouble. I installed my sticks the way they were delivered and their fine. It takes very little control input to fly an RV. You almost never take the controls to the stops. Put it together the way the plans tell you to and you will be happy with the results. Dennis Thomas RV N164DV 90164 274 hours and loving every minute --- JohnCClarkVA@cs.com wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: JohnCClarkVA@cs.com > > The problem may be interference with the throttle > knob. I cut some off the stick so that it would not > get hung up under the throttle when it is pulled > out. > > "Snow, Daniel A." wrote: > > >--> RV9-List message posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." > > > > >I haven't mounted the elevator yet, so I don't know > how far the control stick needs to travel in the > forward direction. The seat floor ribs are > preventing mine from touching the panel. Could > someone please tell me how much forward travel the > control stick needs with the elevator installed? > > > >thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > >