---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/28/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:04 AM - Turtle deck painting color (Carlos Trigo) 2. 04:13 AM - Re: Turtle deck painting color (jc@INFONET.COM.BR) 3. 05:12 AM - Re: Turtle deck painting color (Bob Kelly) 4. 05:28 AM - Re: Turtle deck painting color (Carlos Trigo) 5. 06:35 AM - Re: Turtle deck painting color (Michael Schipper) 6. 08:39 AM - Re: Turtle deck painting color (Barney Rubble) 7. 03:59 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTRO (Michael Hudson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:51 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color --> RV9-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" I'm making final decisions in the painting scheme of my -9A and I'm strugling with a particular decision: the color to apply on the fwd upper deck, just forward of the (slider canopy) fixed windshield. On one hand, I think it should be white, in order to reflect the sun and avoid creating heat down, where the vast majority of avionics and electric instruments are installed. OTOH, it should be black, in order to avoid geting sun reflection to the pilots eyes. What everybody thinks about this dilemma? Carlos ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:53 AM PST US From: jc@INFONET.COM.BR Subject: Re: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br Carlos: Its very important to think about sun reflexions in the pilots eyes. In my -9A Ive covered the upper panel with a light brown color fabric (corine) and the results are very bad. The sun reflexions in my eyes oblied me to cover it with a black towel. Some of brasilians -9A use a dark plastic film glued at inside part of canopy. It reduces the heat and brightnness inside the canopy. JC - Aracaju - Brasil #90997 PU-JCI Flying 145 hs ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:39 AM PST US From: Bob Kelly Subject: Re: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color --> RV9-List message posted by: Bob Kelly Someone recommended flat black spackle spray (forget the company that makes it) that is used on the inside of auto trunks. It looks good and is REALLY flat non-reflective black with little flecks of grey. While I haven't flown yet, everything is painted and I have "tested it outside and I think it will work as well as a black cloth. Bob Kelly, final assembly On 06/28/06, jc@INFONET.COM.BR wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br > > Carlos: > Its very important to think about sun reflexions in the pilots eyes. In > my -9A Ive covered the upper panel with a light brown color fabric > (corine) and the results are very bad. The sun reflexions in my eyes > oblied me to cover it with a black towel. Some of brasilians -9A use a > dark plastic film glued at inside part of canopy. It reduces the heat and > brightnness inside the canopy. > > JC - Aracaju - Brasil > #90997 > PU-JCI > Flying 145 hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:19 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color --> RV9-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" Hi JC Good to hear from you. Now in portuguese language. Obrigado pela resposta Eu estou-me referindo parte exterior frente do vidro do canopy, e no parte interior. Na parte interior eu j comprei (na Cleaveland Tools) um tecido preto prprio para forrar, juntamente com uma borracha preta para o topo da chapa sobre o painel de instrumentos. A minha dvida na parte exterior frente do vidro, entre o pra-brisas e a carenagem do motor. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:55 AM > --> RV9-List message posted by: jc@infonet.com.br > > Carlos: > Its very important to think about sun reflexions in the pilots eyes. In > my -9A Ive > covered the upper panel with a light brown color fabric (corine) and the > results are very > bad. The sun reflexions in my eyes oblied me to cover it with a black > towel. > Some of brasilians -9A use a dark plastic film glued at inside part of > canopy. It reduces > the heat and brightnness inside the canopy. > > JC - Aracaju - Brasil > #90997 > PU-JCI > Flying 145 hs > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:42 AM PST US From: Michael Schipper Subject: Re: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color --> RV9-List message posted by: Michael Schipper Mine is a slider as well. I painted the dash flat black and the forward skin and cowl is white. I have had no problems with glare and I think the white surface keeps the heat in check. Regards, Mike Schipper RV-9A - N63MS - Flying www.my9a.com On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" > > I'm making final decisions in the painting scheme of my -9A and I'm > strugling with a particular decision: the color to apply on the fwd > upper deck, just forward of the (slider canopy) fixed windshield. > On one hand, I think it should be white, in order to reflect the > sun and avoid creating heat down, where the vast majority of > avionics and electric instruments are installed. > OTOH, it should be black, in order to avoid geting sun reflection > to the pilots eyes. > What everybody thinks about this dilemma? > > Carlos > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV9-List > wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:26 AM PST US From: Barney Rubble Subject: Re: RV9-List: Turtle deck painting color Since it is a 'Turtle deck', might I suggest you paint the logo of the University of Maryland? Fear the turtle, baby!!! Go Terps! Michael Schipper wrote: --> RV9-List message posted by: Michael Schipper Mine is a slider as well. I painted the dash flat black and the forward skin and cowl is white. I have had no problems with glare and I think the white surface keeps the heat in check. Regards, Mike Schipper RV-9A - N63MS - Flying www.my9a.com On Jun 28, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > --> RV9-List message posted by: "Carlos Trigo" > > I'm making final decisions in the painting scheme of my -9A and I'm > strugling with a particular decision: the color to apply on the fwd > upper deck, just forward of the (slider canopy) fixed windshield. > On one hand, I think it should be white, in order to reflect the > sun and avoid creating heat down, where the vast majority of > avionics and electric instruments are installed. > OTOH, it should be black, in order to avoid geting sun reflection > to the pilots eyes. > What everybody thinks about this dilemma? > > Carlos > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV9-List > wiki.matronics.com > > --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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