---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/16/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:21 PM - WD-657 External Step(s): (McCarty) 2. 04:33 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (Michael Ice) 3. 04:42 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (Richard Tasker) 4. 05:20 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (Steve Dwyer) 5. 06:55 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (Bill Repucci) 6. 07:17 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (=?ISO-8859-1?B?Sm/jbw==?= Carlos Martins de Medeiros) 7. 08:08 PM - Re: WD-657 External Step(s): (John Morgensen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:39 PM PST US From: McCarty Subject: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick build kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that come with the steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I have never removed an item from the fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see no other alternative to the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? Mac ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:29 PM PST US From: Michael Ice Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): Mac, Drill them out. Get used to it you will do it again. Mike Ice RV-9 canopy almost complete, wiring done ----- Original Message ----- From: McCarty Subject: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): > > I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick > build kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that > come with the steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage > compartment floor. These items are pop-riveted in about 14 places. > I have never removed an item from the fuselage that is semi- > permanently attached. I see no other alternative to the removal of > the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the pop- > rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that > this is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:33 PM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): You have to get access to below the floor to install the steps so you have to remove the pop rivets. One advantage us non-quick builders have :-) . Dick Tasker McCarty wrote: > >I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick build kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that come with the steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I have never removed an item from the fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see no other alternative to the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:17 PM PST US From: "Steve Dwyer" Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): Mac, Why not drill them out and install blind mounting nuts for #8 round head screws. You'll thank yourself down the road if you ever need to run additional wiring thru the floor area when the center channel gets filled up. Steve 90219 flying 70 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "McCarty" Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:20 PM Subject: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): > > I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick build > kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that come with the > steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items > are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I have never removed an item from the > fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see no other alternative to > the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the > pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this > is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:18 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): Mac, Before you start drilling out those "pop" rivets, read this tread on the VAF forum: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=8481&highlight=ri vet As for installing plate nuts to hold the floor pans in, this is a great idea but... Plate nuts and the resulting screw can add a LOT of weight. If you need to get in there at some point in the future, you will know how to remove these rivets and run your extra wires. As Van's has told me, "Build lightness in." Bill RV-9 (and shooting for 1,000 lbs empty weight) www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Dwyer Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): Mac, Why not drill them out and install blind mounting nuts for #8 round head screws. You'll thank yourself down the road if you ever need to run additional wiring thru the floor area when the center channel gets filled up. Steve 90219 flying 70 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "McCarty" Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:20 PM Subject: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): > > I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick > build > kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that come with the > steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items > are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I have never removed an item from the > fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see no other alternative to > the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the > pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this > is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:29 PM PST US From: "=?ISO-8859-1?B?Sm/jbw==?= Carlos Martins de Medeiros" Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): As soon as I removed the blind rivets I cut the upper panel to create a compartment for a quart of engine oil bottle. Im so glad now. Cause there is no oil in my luggage. :-))) Be carefull in removing the blind rivets. Use a new bit and boelub. The inner pin of lind rivets are harder than the other parts and drill bit hates it. -- JC - Aracaju - Brasil PU-JCI rv-9a flying 184 hs building PU-IJC, fuselagem Citando McCarty : > > I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick build kit and am > very green at this game. The instructions that come with the steps tell me to remove > the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I > have never removed an item from the fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see > no other alternative to the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal > of the pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this is > the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:13 PM PST US From: John Morgensen Subject: Re: RV9-List: WD-657 External Step(s): If I remember right, the instructions call for a 1 1/2" hole for the torque tube that supports the step. However, you need to enlarge that to accommodate the weld seem around the 1 1/2" pipe. Save yourself some grief and use a 1/8" bigger hole saw to begin with. (It might be 1 3/4" but the principal is the same). John Morgensen RV-9A McCarty wrote: > > I am at the point of installing the external steps in my 9-A quick build kit and am very green at this game. The instructions that come with the steps tell me to remove the F-747 baggage compartment floor. These items are pop-riveted in about 14 places. I have never removed an item from the fuselage that is semi-permanently attached. I see no other alternative to the removal of the baggage compartment floor other than removal of the pop-rivets. Would someone please assuage my paranoia and tell me that this is the proper procedure, or if not, just what do I do?? > Mac > > > > > > > > . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv9-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv9-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.