---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/11/07: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - FW: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A (Rafael) 2. 08:02 AM - Re: FW: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A (WILLIAM LETCHER) 3. 11:42 AM - Re: Brake pedal position: (Michael T. Ice) 4. 12:47 PM - Re: Brake pedal position: (McCarty) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:03 AM PST US From: "Rafael" Subject: RV9-List: FW: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A I originally asked this question on the RV-7 list, where I got some very useful information. It occurs to me that I should also ask in the RV9-list. Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks and best regards, Rafael _____ From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rafael Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A Although I've been flying for over 29 years, I'm about to become a new builder. I'm evaluating the merits of the RV9A and the RV7A. My interests are for an airplane that would carry my wife and I on trips from South Carolina to the Midwest and occasionally to the West coast. Aerobatics are not a priority, although, if I build the 7, I would like to dip my toe into this type of flying. A couple of questions: Which airplane makes a better IFR platform? I imagine that the 9 would probably be less responsive (more stable?). Would the 7 behave better in the bumps (higher wing loading). If I build the 7, the 180hp, not available in the 9, would get you higher faster. For the long trips, I would like to add fuel capacity. What's the added cost and weight of adding tip tanks? I've heard of 8.5 gal, giving 55 gal total. Would putting tip tanks on the 7 limit its aerobatic capabilities? This is my first post, so please let me know if this is the kind of questions appropriate for this forum. Thanks and best regards, Rafael ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:01 AM PST US From: WILLIAM LETCHER Subject: RE: RV9-List: FW: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A Rafael Having flown and built both I prefer the 9 for the stability and better gli de. An 0 320 is enough power for either of the planes. With the price of fu el the one and a half to two gal an hr. fuel savings is a big deal over the long run. You won't be sorry with either airplane. Unless areobatics is high on your list of thinges to do stick with the 9, they will do an aileron roll almost as quick as the 7. Bill From: rafael@gforcecable.comTo: rv9-list@matronics.comSubject: RV9-List: FW : RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9ADate: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:45:29 -0400 I originally asked this question on the RV-7 list, where I got some very us eful information. It occurs to me that I should also ask in the RV9-list. Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks and best regards, Rafael From: owner-rv7-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@mat ronics.com] On Behalf Of RafaelSent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:19 PMTo: rv7 -list@matronics.comSubject: RV7-List: RV7A vs RV9A Although I=92ve been flying for over 29 years, I=92m about to become a new builder. I=92m evaluating the merits of the RV9A and the RV7A. My interes ts are for an airplane that would carry my wife and I on trips from South C arolina to the Midwest and occasionally to the West coast. Aerobatics are not a priority, although, if I build the 7, I would like to dip my toe into this type of flying. A couple of questions: Which airplane makes a better IFR platform? I imagine that the 9 would pr obably be less responsive (more stable?). Would the 7 behave better in the bumps (higher wing loading). If I build the 7, the 180hp, not available in the 9, would get you higher f aster. For the long trips, I would like to add fuel capacity. What=92s the added cost and weight of adding tip tanks? I=92ve heard of 8.5 gal, giving 55 ga l total. Would putting tip tanks on the 7 limit its aerobatic capabilities ? This is my first post, so please let me know if this is the kind of questio ns appropriate for this forum. Thanks and best regards, Rafael ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:52 AM PST US From: "Michael T. Ice" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Brake pedal position: Mac, When you say, "necessary to depress two of the master cylinders". How much did you press them down? If it was just a tiny amount then probably no troubles. If a lot then something else might be wrong. Your statement, "designated tabs that are welded to the brake pedals" really makes me wonder what your talking about. Are you sure your not talking about the two tabs that the rudder cables hook up to? There should be one on the right side of the plane and one on the left. Can you take a picture and post it? Mike Ice RV-9 Firewall forward ----- Original Message ----- From: "McCarty" Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: RV9-List: Brake pedal position: > > In attempting to determine the proper position to place the dual system > brake pedals for my 9-A I have found that it will be necessary to depress > two of the master cylinders in order to have the bolt holes line up with > the designated tabs that are welded to the brake pedals. Having never set > up a hydralic system before I have no experience to draw on and am not > sure what I am doing. Could someone with more experience advise me before > I make a mistake and drill a hole in the wrong place? > Mac > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:57 PM PST US From: McCarty Subject: Re: RV9-List: Brake pedal position: Michael, The "Designated Tab" I am referring to is the one riveted to the brake pedal. My mistake about welded. This is the tab drawing 37 shows the large hemi-spherical head of the brake cylinder attaching to with the AN3-11 bolt. After further study I see that the brake cylinder cannot be depressed as it returns to it's fully expanded position due to the internal return spring. I see that I must drill the attachment hole for the AN3-11 bolt in different positions on the tab depending on the particular rudder pedal (fore or aft) position in order to get the top edges of each brake pedal pair even with each other. Am I makeing my self clear? I will try to post a photograph. I have never done so before. I am not much of a computer whiz. Mac -----Original Message----- >From: "Michael T. Ice" >Sent: May 11, 2007 9:34 AM >To: rv9-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV9-List: Brake pedal position: > > >Mac, > >When you say, "necessary to depress two of the master cylinders". How much >did you press them down? If it was just a tiny amount then probably no >troubles. If a lot then something else might be wrong. > >Your statement, "designated tabs that are welded to the brake pedals" really >makes me wonder what your talking about. Are you sure your not talking about >the two tabs that the rudder cables hook up to? There should be one on the >right side of the plane and one on the left. > >Can you take a picture and post it? > >Mike Ice >RV-9 >Firewall forward >----- Original Message ----- >From: "McCarty" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:40 PM >Subject: RV9-List: Brake pedal position: > > >> >> In attempting to determine the proper position to place the dual system >> brake pedals for my 9-A I have found that it will be necessary to depress >> two of the master cylinders in order to have the bolt holes line up with >> the designated tabs that are welded to the brake pedals. Having never set >> up a hydralic system before I have no experience to draw on and am not >> sure what I am doing. Could someone with more experience advise me before >> I make a mistake and drill a hole in the wrong place? >> Mac >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv9-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv9-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.