RV9-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/03/07


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:13 AM - Re: Tool source (Michael T. Ice)
     2. 07:15 AM - Re: Tool source (Michael T. Ice)
     3. 07:18 AM - Re: Tool source (Michael T. Ice)
     4. 08:17 AM - Re: Tool source (Carl Bell)
     5. 09:35 AM - Re: Tool source (Michael T. Ice)
     6. 06:32 PM - Re: Tool source (Carl Bell)
     7. 07:04 PM - Re: Tool source (Bill Repucci)
     8. 07:04 PM - Re: Tool source (Bill Repucci)
     9. 07:28 PM - Re: Tool source (Michael T. Ice)
    10. 07:53 PM - Re: Tool source (Bill Repucci)
    11. 08:07 PM - Re: Tool source (Carl Peters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:13:47 AM PST US
    From: "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    Jeff, You get to build your airplane at least 3 times so enjoy the process. Tools can be more than metal objects used to bend, cut, drill or rivet. Tools can be websites such as this one and others that have gone before you. It is unlikely that you will encounter or screw up something that someone else hasn't already done, unless your very imaginative or creative. If you have not checked with VAF, www.vansairforce.net, website you should. The matronics and VAF websites should go into some of your favorites for research. Check out, www.vansaircraft.com/public/wwwlinks.htm, look under RV-9's for websites that others before you have built with ideas and pictures. I have some favorites that I check constantly. But for hand tools: You can find tools almost anywhere. I did not buy a generic "one size fits all" kit from anyone place and I have been quite happy with my decision. Also unless your impressed with name brands you can save a lot of $ buying the same tool for less. Also don't forget about used tools, they work great and provide good service and will save you more $$. Check out "The Yard" www.yardstore.com/, great folks, good service. I bought a pneumatic rivet squeezer www.yardstore.com/index.cfm?Action=ViewCategory&Category-, from them, it was used and had performed flawlessly. If you don't want to spend the money to buy a pneumatic rivet squeezer then don't ever try one. The first time you try one you will be ordering one so fast because you will wonder how you got along with out it in the first place. Once you get it set for the size of rivet you are using it squeezes all the rest perfectly. Along the line of rivets on the back of the horizontal stabilizer you will agree that the money you paid for this tool is well spent. I also bought and have used and love my DRDT dimpler, www.experimentalaero.com/. Your going to need a set of "close quarter dimple dies" which will be used with your pop rivet gun. You won't use them very often but when you need one almost nothing else will work. By the way use finishing nails for the mandrels after you break all the ones that come with the dies. Another tool you will find very useful is a 90 degree angle drill, the smaller the better. Are you a builder or a flyer? Mike Ice Anchorage, Alaska RV-9 (tail dragger) fuselage just about complete, Working on Firewall Forward. Just put the motor mount on for the first time yesterday, today I will take it off, make adjustments, put it back on, take some measurements, take it off, repeat 100 times. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Rosson" <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: RV9-List: Tool source > > Hi, > > New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but I > need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who > seem to be highly regarded, but also at Brown?Ts. Brown seems to have > better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air > drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention Brown's has > free shipping). Most all of their prices on other items is a bit less, > too, and I wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two companies > have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas for Brown you have to select > each one individually? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's > suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies that > I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, I will > try to attach it to this post. I also included some other recommended > tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally complete yet, but > if it helps someone, great. > > Thanks! > Jeff Rosson > Merritt Island, FL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls > > >


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    Time: 07:15:35 AM PST US
    From: "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    Carl, What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) Mike Ice RV-9 Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Jeff, > > I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just great, > very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic squeezer from > Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly and the quality of > the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy > from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less > at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Hi, > > New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but I > need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who > seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems to have > better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air > drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention Brown's has > free shipping). Most all of their prices on other items is a bit less, > too, and I wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two companies > have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas for Brown you have to select > each one individually? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's > suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies that > I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, I will > try to attach it to this post. I also included some other recommended > tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally complete yet, but > if it helps someone, great. > > Thanks! > Jeff Rosson > Merritt Island, FL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls > > >


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    Time: 07:18:44 AM PST US
    From: "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    Dennis, Do you have a flying 9? Or is your a 9A? Or did you mean your 355 hours into the building process? If flying how do you like your 9 so far? Any problems learning to land the 9? Mike Ice RV-9 firewall forward Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: <dthomas773@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > Hi Jeff, > I bought most of my tools from Cleveland and I can't > say enough good things about them. They are > themselves RV Builders and extremely helpful. > > The most important thing is when you call them they > answer the phone. You don't need to listen to a > computer for 5 or 10 minutes to get what you want. > Secondly they are a good source of general > information. You can ask a question about building > and they will advise you. > > I don't think you can go wrong with them. > > Dennis Thomas > RV-9 355 hours and loving it. > --- Jeff Rosson <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to >> arrive Wednesday, but I need a bunch of tools. I >> have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who seem >> to be highly regarded, but also at Brown?Ts. Brown >> seems to have better pricing, and I have already >> ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air drill from >> them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention >> Brown's has free shipping). Most all of their >> prices on other items is a bit less, too, and I >> wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two >> companies have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas >> for Brown you have to select each one individually? >> >> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a >> spreadsheet with Van's suggested tools vs. part >> number and pricing for these three companies that I >> would be happy to send out to anyone who is >> interested. Heck, I will try to attach it to this >> post. I also included some other recommended tools >> I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally >> complete yet, but if it helps someone, great. >> >> Thanks! >> Jeff Rosson >> Merritt Island, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> browse >> Subscriptions page, >> FAQ, >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV9-List >> >> Web Forums! >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:17:35 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com>
    Subject: Tool source
    Mike, It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx Carl W Bell New Venture Consulting Mobile: 803.640.2760 www.newventureconsulting.com carlbell@gforcecable.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source Carl, What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) Mike Ice RV-9 Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Jeff, > > I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just great, > very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic squeezer from > Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly and the quality of > the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy > from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less > at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Hi, > > New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but I > need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who > seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems to have > better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air > drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention Brown's has > free shipping). Most all of their prices on other items is a bit less, > too, and I wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two companies > have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas for Brown you have to select > each one individually? > > Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's > suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies that > I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, I will > try to attach it to this post. I also included some other recommended > tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally complete yet, but > if it helps someone, great. > > Thanks! > Jeff Rosson > Merritt Island, FL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls > > >


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    Time: 09:35:07 AM PST US
    From: "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    Carl, That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" instead of pneumatic. I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy one. I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and over again. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Mike, > > It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : > http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Carl, > > What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) > > Mike Ice > RV-9 > Anchorage, Alaska > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> >> Jeff, >> >> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just great, >> very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic squeezer >> from >> Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly and the quality >> of >> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy >> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less >> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >> Hi, >> >> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but I >> need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who >> seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems to have >> better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air >> drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention Brown's >> has >> free shipping). Most all of their prices on other items is a bit less, >> too, and I wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two companies >> have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas for Brown you have to select >> each one individually? >> >> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies >> that >> I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, I will >> try to attach it to this post. I also included some other recommended >> tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally complete yet, >> but >> if it helps someone, great. >> >> Thanks! >> Jeff Rosson >> Merritt Island, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:32:14 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com>
    Subject: Tool source
    OK, I was just in a hurry and thinking about brakes, now if I could only find a light 22" deep throat for my hydraulic squeezer for $50, I would be a happy camper. Carl W Bell New Venture Consulting Mobile: 803.640.2760 www.newventureconsulting.com carlbell@gforcecable.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source Carl, That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" instead of pneumatic. I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy one. I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and over again. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Mike, > > It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : > http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Carl, > > What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) > > Mike Ice > RV-9 > Anchorage, Alaska > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> >> Jeff, >> >> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just great, >> very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic squeezer >> from >> Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly and the quality >> of >> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy >> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less >> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >> Hi, >> >> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but I >> need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, who >> seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems to have >> better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet gun and air >> drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to mention Brown's >> has >> free shipping). Most all of their prices on other items is a bit less, >> too, and I wonder if people use Avery/Cleveland as these two companies >> have fairly compete kits of tools, whereas for Brown you have to select >> each one individually? >> >> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies >> that >> I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, I will >> try to attach it to this post. I also included some other recommended >> tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally complete yet, >> but >> if it helps someone, great. >> >> Thanks! >> Jeff Rosson >> Merritt Island, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:04:05 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
    Subject: Tool source
    Wimps! I have built my entire -9 with a rock and a stick! ;) Actually, I used the Avery's squeezer and saved the money I didn't spend on a pneumatic squeezer on replacement parts. Bill Just about ready to move to the airport! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source Carl, That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" instead of pneumatic. I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy one. I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and over again. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Mike, > > It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : > http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Carl, > > What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) > > Mike Ice > RV-9 > Anchorage, Alaska > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> --> <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >> >> Jeff, >> >> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just >> great, very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic >> squeezer from Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly >> and the quality of >> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy >> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less >> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> --> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but >> I need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, >> who seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems >> to have better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet >> gun and air drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to >> mention Brown's has free shipping). Most all of their prices on >> other items is a bit less, too, and I wonder if people use >> Avery/Cleveland as these two companies have fairly compete kits of >> tools, whereas for Brown you have to select each one individually? >> >> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies >> that I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, >> I will try to attach it to this post. I also included some other >> recommended tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally >> complete yet, but >> if it helps someone, great. >> >> Thanks! >> Jeff Rosson >> Merritt Island, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:04:05 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
    Subject: Tool source
    Carl, Like you, when I started the thought of picking up my rivet gun frightened me. Now I don't even give it a second thought. No need for that 22" deep throat, in other words. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Bell Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source OK, I was just in a hurry and thinking about brakes, now if I could only find a light 22" deep throat for my hydraulic squeezer for $50, I would be a happy camper. Carl W Bell New Venture Consulting Mobile: 803.640.2760 www.newventureconsulting.com carlbell@gforcecable.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source Carl, That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" instead of pneumatic. I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy one. I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and over again. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Mike, > > It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : > http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx > > Carl W Bell > New Venture Consulting > Mobile: 803.640.2760 > www.newventureconsulting.com > carlbell@gforcecable.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > Carl, > > What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) > > Mike Ice > RV-9 > Anchorage, Alaska > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> --> <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >> >> Jeff, >> >> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just >> great, very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic >> squeezer from Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly >> and the quality of >> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will buy >> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ less >> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> --> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but >> I need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, >> who seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems >> to have better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet >> gun and air drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to >> mention Brown's has free shipping). Most all of their prices on >> other items is a bit less, too, and I wonder if people use >> Avery/Cleveland as these two companies have fairly compete kits of >> tools, whereas for Brown you have to select each one individually? >> >> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies >> that I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, >> I will try to attach it to this post. I also included some other >> recommended tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally >> complete yet, but >> if it helps someone, great. >> >> Thanks! >> Jeff Rosson >> Merritt Island, FL >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:28:04 PM PST US
    From: "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    Bill, Yeah, and I bet you mined the bauxite in the hills of Jamaica. On the way to the airport, way to go Bill. Take pictures of the first flight. When you get here you will have a place to stay. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Wimps! > > I have built my entire -9 with a rock and a stick! ;) > > Actually, I used the Avery's squeezer and saved the money I didn't spend > on a pneumatic squeezer on replacement parts. > > Bill > Just about ready to move to the airport! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:35 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > > Carl, > > That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just > joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" instead > of > pneumatic. > > I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet > squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy > one. > > I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and > over > again. > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> >> Mike, >> >> It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : >> http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. > Ice >> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >> Carl, >> >> What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) >> >> Mike Ice >> RV-9 >> Anchorage, Alaska >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM >> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >>> --> <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >>> >>> Jeff, >>> >>> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just >>> great, very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic >>> squeezer from Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered quickly > >>> and the quality of >>> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will > buy >>> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ > less >>> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >>> >>> Carl W Bell >>> New Venture Consulting >>> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >>> www.newventureconsulting.com >>> carlbell@gforcecable.com >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson >>> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >>> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >>> >>> --> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but >>> I need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and Cleveland, > >>> who seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems >>> to have better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet >>> gun and air drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to >>> mention Brown's has free shipping). Most all of their prices on >>> other items is a bit less, too, and I wonder if people use >>> Avery/Cleveland as these two companies have fairly compete kits of >>> tools, whereas for Brown you have to select each one individually? >>> >>> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >>> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three companies > >>> that I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. Heck, > >>> I will try to attach it to this post. I also included some other >>> recommended tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally >>> complete yet, but >>> if it helps someone, great. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Jeff Rosson >>> Merritt Island, FL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:53:21 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
    Subject: Tool source
    Mike, Will do, if I'm not too busy flying. As for the place to stay, we might need four beds. One of our chapter members is about to finish his Murphy Super Rebel and we have both been talking about flying to AK when we are finished. Of course, I will have to slow WAY down for him. What is impressive about that monster is that it can go 150 mph Vcr. Not too bad for a flying school bus. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. Ice Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source Bill, Yeah, and I bet you mined the bauxite in the hills of Jamaica. On the way to the airport, way to go Bill. Take pictures of the first flight. When you get here you will have a place to stay. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > Wimps! > > I have built my entire -9 with a rock and a stick! ;) > > Actually, I used the Avery's squeezer and saved the money I didn't > spend on a pneumatic squeezer on replacement parts. > > Bill > Just about ready to move to the airport! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. > Ice > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:35 PM > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source > > > > Carl, > > That is exactly what I have with the adjustable set holder. I was just > joking with you because in your first email you said, Hydraulic" > instead of pneumatic. > > I totally agree with you, I would not be with out a pneumatic rivet > squeezer. Every time I loan it to someone I know they are going to buy > one. > > I did the slow build wings and the squeezer paid for itself over and > over again. > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> > To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source > > >> --> <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >> >> Mike, >> >> It is the best tool I own for building RV's, check out : >> http://www.averytools.com/cart/c-13-pneumatic-squeezers.aspx >> >> Carl W Bell >> New Venture Consulting >> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >> www.newventureconsulting.com >> carlbell@gforcecable.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael T. > Ice >> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:15 AM >> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >> Carl, >> >> What does a "hydraulic" squeezer look like? :>) >> >> Mike Ice >> RV-9 >> Anchorage, Alaska >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carl Bell" <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:23 PM >> Subject: RE: RV9-List: Tool source >> >> >>> --> <carlbell@gforcecable.com> >>> >>> Jeff, >>> >>> I just bought a partial set of tools from Avery and they are just >>> great, very good quality. I also bought a clone USA made hydraulic >>> squeezer from Brown and a Sioux 3x rivet gun. They delivered >>> quickly > >>> and the quality of >>> the clone squeezer seems fine for 500$. I'm happy with all and will > buy >>> from both again. The price for the rivet gun and squeezer were 150$ > less >>> at Brown and the only reason I didn't buy the lot from Avery. >>> >>> Carl W Bell >>> New Venture Consulting >>> Mobile: 803.640.2760 >>> www.newventureconsulting.com >>> carlbell@gforcecable.com >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff >>> Rosson >>> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:15 PM >>> To: rv9-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV9-List: Tool source >>> >>> --> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> New builder here. My RV9A Empennage kit is to arrive Wednesday, but >>> I need a bunch of tools. I have been looking at Avery and >>> Cleveland, > >>> who seem to be highly regarded, but also at Browns. Brown seems >>> to have better pricing, and I have already ordered a Sioux 3X rivet >>> gun and air drill from them, saving about $175 right there (not to >>> mention Brown's has free shipping). Most all of their prices on >>> other items is a bit less, too, and I wonder if people use >>> Avery/Cleveland as these two companies have fairly compete kits of >>> tools, whereas for Brown you have to select each one individually? >>> >>> Any guidance would be appreciated. I have a spreadsheet with Van's >>> suggested tools vs. part number and pricing for these three >>> companies > >>> that I would be happy to send out to anyone who is interested. >>> Heck, > >>> I will try to attach it to this post. I also included some other >>> recommended tools I have read are helpful. The sheet is not totally >>> complete yet, but if it helps someone, great. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Jeff Rosson >>> Merritt Island, FL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116062#116062 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tool_list_942.xls >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 08:07:23 PM PST US
    From: Carl Peters <say.ahh1@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Tool source
    If you review the archives, folks have been quite happy with the 'ABC's' (Avery, Brown, Cleveland). Another to look at is PlaneTools/Isham. Unless you want to get used and piecemeal, I would recommend a kit. The kits usually save you 10% or so, and are fairly complete. I got mine from Avery at OSH last year and got even more discounts, plus did a fair amount of substituting (eg DRDT-2 instead of C-frame). They were very accomodating, and Bob personally took care of everything despite running ragged at the show. Squeezer came off ebay for $200. Carl RV-9A




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