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1. 05:56 AM - Top VS Rib Won't Fit (Jeff Rosson)
2. 07:13 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit (smittysrv)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit (Michael T. Ice)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit (Carl Bell)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit (Michael T. Ice)
6. 08:14 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit ()
7. 11:23 AM - Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit (Wayne)
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| Subject: | Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Hi,
I originally posted this question to the Van's Air Force site, but I didn't have
the ability to send in pictures and I just found out I can't post attachements
there, so I am bringing the question here.
Here are two pictures to describe my problem with the top rib for the VS fitting
into the skin. In one picture, the rib is clecoed to the aft spar and, as you
can see, the rib is too long and too wide at the tip to slip into the VS skin.
In the video that Van's has for the RV9 empennage, this rib fits inside with
no problem.
In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside the skin, and clecoed it in
all the way back to the aft spar, including the forward spar, except for the holes
in the tab. As shown, the tab had to be bent quite a bit to fit inside,
to where the hole in the skin is no where close to the mating with hole on the
tab.
To make it fit, it looks like I would have to flatten out the flanges of the tab,
then cut back on the tip to reduce the length, then trim the flanges and re-bend
them to make the tab narrower.
I don't really see any structural problem to me doing that, but with the way the
rest of the parts have been fitting together so nicely, the fact I am having
this kind of problem here (and, again, the video shows the rib fitting in quite
nicely) makes me question it.
Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered to attach them!)
Thanks,
Jeff
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Hi Jeff,
You shouldn't be having the problem you're having. Mine went in easily. I think
you have a mal-formed rib. I suggest you order another one from Van's.
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Smittys RV-9A
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| Subject: | Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Jeff,
First don't start hacking away until your sure. You can make an expensive
mistake real quick.
>From the looks of the one picture is does look like something is definitely
wrong. It looks like (at least from my perspective) that you need to do some
fluting and some trimming on that rib to make it fit.
Make certain that you have the right parts in the right places.
Is the video you got from Van's the one by George Orndorf? George has some
great ideas.
www.rvproject.com/ , This is a good resource site and there are others.
Blue Skies,
Mike Ice
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Rosson" <jeffrosson@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:55 AM
Subject: RV9-List: Top VS Rib Won't Fit
>
> Hi,
>
> I originally posted this question to the Van's Air Force site, but I
> didn't have the ability to send in pictures and I just found out I can't
> post attachements there, so I am bringing the question here.
>
> Here are two pictures to describe my problem with the top rib for the VS
> fitting into the skin. In one picture, the rib is clecoed to the aft spar
> and, as you can see, the rib is too long and too wide at the tip to slip
> into the VS skin. In the video that Van's has for the RV9 empennage, this
> rib fits inside with no problem.
>
> In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside the skin, and clecoed
> it in all the way back to the aft spar, including the forward spar, except
> for the holes in the tab. As shown, the tab had to be bent quite a bit to
> fit inside, to where the hole in the skin is no where close to the mating
> with hole on the tab.
>
> To make it fit, it looks like I would have to flatten out the flanges of
> the tab, then cut back on the tip to reduce the length, then trim the
> flanges and re-bend them to make the tab narrower.
>
> I don't really see any structural problem to me doing that, but with the
> way the rest of the parts have been fitting together so nicely, the fact I
> am having this kind of problem here (and, again, the video shows the rib
> fitting in quite nicely) makes me question it.
>
> Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered to attach them!)
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117768#117768
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_2_357.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Jeff,
This may not be the only problem you are having and I'm building a 7, but in
my instructions it says to flute and straighten all ribs before match
drilling. You need to make sure the hole line on the ribs are perfectly
straight. If you do this it may all go together better, although I'm not
expert yet and there may be another issue some where in your assembly. Carl
Carl W Bell
New Venture Consulting
Mobile: 803.640.2760
www.newventureconsulting.com
carlbell@gforcecable.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Rosson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: RV9-List: Top VS Rib Won't Fit
Hi,
I originally posted this question to the Van's Air Force site, but I didn't
have the ability to send in pictures and I just found out I can't post
attachements there, so I am bringing the question here.
Here are two pictures to describe my problem with the top rib for the VS
fitting into the skin. In one picture, the rib is clecoed to the aft spar
and, as you can see, the rib is too long and too wide at the tip to slip
into the VS skin. In the video that Van's has for the RV9 empennage, this
rib fits inside with no problem.
In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside the skin, and clecoed it
in all the way back to the aft spar, including the forward spar, except for
the holes in the tab. As shown, the tab had to be bent quite a bit to fit
inside, to where the hole in the skin is no where close to the mating with
hole on the tab.
To make it fit, it looks like I would have to flatten out the flanges of the
tab, then cut back on the tip to reduce the length, then trim the flanges
and re-bend them to make the tab narrower.
I don't really see any structural problem to me doing that, but with the way
the rest of the parts have been fitting together so nicely, the fact I am
having this kind of problem here (and, again, the video shows the rib
fitting in quite nicely) makes me question it.
Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered to attach them!)
Thanks,
Jeff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117768#117768
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_2_357.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Jeff,
I just read your post on the VAF.
I would also suggest to you that if your having problems with clecoing to
get a pneumatic cleco tool.
Also, QUICK Build is a great way to go with the wings and fuselage.
Mike Ice
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Rosson" <jeffrosson@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:55 AM
Subject: RV9-List: Top VS Rib Won't Fit
>
> Hi,
>
> I originally posted this question to the Van's Air Force site, but I
> didn't have the ability to send in pictures and I just found out I can't
> post attachements there, so I am bringing the question here.
>
> Here are two pictures to describe my problem with the top rib for the VS
> fitting into the skin. In one picture, the rib is clecoed to the aft spar
> and, as you can see, the rib is too long and too wide at the tip to slip
> into the VS skin. In the video that Van's has for the RV9 empennage, this
> rib fits inside with no problem.
>
> In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside the skin, and clecoed
> it in all the way back to the aft spar, including the forward spar, except
> for the holes in the tab. As shown, the tab had to be bent quite a bit to
> fit inside, to where the hole in the skin is no where close to the mating
> with hole on the tab.
>
> To make it fit, it looks like I would have to flatten out the flanges of
> the tab, then cut back on the tip to reduce the length, then trim the
> flanges and re-bend them to make the tab narrower.
>
> I don't really see any structural problem to me doing that, but with the
> way the rest of the parts have been fitting together so nicely, the fact I
> am having this kind of problem here (and, again, the video shows the rib
> fitting in quite nicely) makes me question it.
>
> Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered to attach them!)
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117768#117768
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_2_357.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
You might try removing the skin from the skeleton,
Cleco the rib in place and see if it fit then.
--- "Michael T. Ice" <aurbo@ak.net> wrote:
> <aurbo@ak.net>
>
> Jeff,
>
> I just read your post on the VAF.
>
> I would also suggest to you that if your having
> problems with clecoing to
> get a pneumatic cleco tool.
>
> Also, QUICK Build is a great way to go with the
> wings and fuselage.
>
> Mike Ice
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Rosson" <jeffrosson@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv9-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:55 AM
> Subject: RV9-List: Top VS Rib Won't Fit
>
>
> <jeffrosson@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I originally posted this question to the Van's Air
> Force site, but I
> > didn't have the ability to send in pictures and I
> just found out I can't
> > post attachements there, so I am bringing the
> question here.
> >
> > Here are two pictures to describe my problem with
> the top rib for the VS
> > fitting into the skin. In one picture, the rib is
> clecoed to the aft spar
> > and, as you can see, the rib is too long and too
> wide at the tip to slip
> > into the VS skin. In the video that Van's has for
> the RV9 empennage, this
> > rib fits inside with no problem.
> >
> > In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside
> the skin, and clecoed
> > it in all the way back to the aft spar, including
> the forward spar, except
> > for the holes in the tab. As shown, the tab had
> to be bent quite a bit to
> > fit inside, to where the hole in the skin is no
> where close to the mating
> > with hole on the tab.
> >
> > To make it fit, it looks like I would have to
> flatten out the flanges of
> > the tab, then cut back on the tip to reduce the
> length, then trim the
> > flanges and re-bend them to make the tab narrower.
> >
> > I don't really see any structural problem to me
> doing that, but with the
> > way the rest of the parts have been fitting
> together so nicely, the fact I
> > am having this kind of problem here (and, again,
> the video shows the rib
> > fitting in quite nicely) makes me question it.
> >
> > Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered
> to attach them!)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> >
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117768#117768
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Attachments:
> >
> >
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_2_357.jpg
> >
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Top VS Rib Won't Fit |
Peeling the blue afterbirth off may help some
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Rosson" <jeffrosson@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: RV9-List: Top VS Rib Won't Fit
>
> Hi,
>
> I originally posted this question to the Van's Air Force site, but I
> didn't have the ability to send in pictures and I just found out I can't
> post attachements there, so I am bringing the question here.
>
> Here are two pictures to describe my problem with the top rib for the VS
> fitting into the skin. In one picture, the rib is clecoed to the aft spar
> and, as you can see, the rib is too long and too wide at the tip to slip
> into the VS skin. In the video that Van's has for the RV9 empennage, this
> rib fits inside with no problem.
>
> In the other picture, I have forced the rib inside the skin, and clecoed
> it in all the way back to the aft spar, including the forward spar, except
> for the holes in the tab. As shown, the tab had to be bent quite a bit to
> fit inside, to where the hole in the skin is no where close to the mating
> with hole on the tab.
>
> To make it fit, it looks like I would have to flatten out the flanges of
> the tab, then cut back on the tip to reduce the length, then trim the
> flanges and re-bend them to make the tab narrower.
>
> I don't really see any structural problem to me doing that, but with the
> way the rest of the parts have been fitting together so nicely, the fact I
> am having this kind of problem here (and, again, the video shows the rib
> fitting in quite nicely) makes me question it.
>
> Hope the pictures help. (And I hope I remembered to attach them!)
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117768#117768
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_2_357.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/vs_rib_1_911.jpg
>
>
>
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