---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/02/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:50 AM - Re: Shipping & Duty (Ernie & Margo) 2. 11:04 AM - Re: Shipping (Grant Neilson) 3. 02:25 PM - Long range fuel for the "9" (James H Nelson) 4. 03:21 PM - Range (=?iso-8859-1?b?Sm/jbw==?= Carlos Martins de Medeiros) 5. 04:18 PM - Re: Range - Extra Tanks (Carlos Trigo) 6. 04:31 PM - Re: Long range fuel for the "9" (Carlos Trigo) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:16 AM PST US From: "Ernie & Margo" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Shipping & Duty Dave and others: Canada Customs will describe the shipment as Aircraft Parts for determining the Tariff. The cost will be converted to $Canadian including the shipping charges. The total cost will be extended for the standard GST as well as the standard PST rate for your province. I live near the border so I have goods shipped to a $US receiving agent for US shipments (always UPS). Works well. Hi All I'm just about ready to order the RV-9 standard kit and was wondering if anyone could tell me what I can expect for duty costs and what is the best carrier to have the kit shipped from the USA. I live just west of Edmonton. Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:42 AM PST US From: "Grant Neilson" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Shipping Dave, You just have to pay the GST and applicable PST, none in Alberta, lucky for you. To save the sometimes exorbitant fees the carriers charge for clearing items through customs, I suggest the following: Find out which carriers connect with Roadways (which Van's uses for shipping out of Oregon- in B.C. Van-Kam Freightways connects with them, and they may go into Alberta too). Have them ship to the bonded warehouse closest to you, and hold the kit there so that you can clear it through customs yourself. You just need to have them fax the paperwork to you and the go down to the Canada Border Services agency nearest you and get out your Visa card. Let both Vans and the connecting carrier know beforehand that you're going to clear the kit yourself. Vans can mark the boxes "Hold at the bonded warehouse in Edmonton" or wherever. Your timing is good, with the dollar at or above parity. Grant Neilson, Finishing, RV9A Campbell River, B.C. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:58 PM PST US Subject: RV9-List: Long range fuel for the "9" From: James H Nelson Carlos, The reason Safe-Air does not have a long range set up for the "9" is the size of the lightning holes in the wing. The availability of "standard" size aluminum tubing and the holes in the wings do not get together. I looked at doing the job myself but with a good look at the availability of aluminum tubing, it could not come together. So, I decided that if I really wanted to extend the range of my "9" I would do an internal tank. It would set behind the pilot and with a separate pump to put fuel into the fuel line for the left tank (while running on the right tank). An appropriate check valve and a quick disconnect rounds out the stuff. I would fill the tank with it installed inside the fuselage. Not the best way but doable. I figured having about 7 -8 gal extra would give me 550 to 600 naut. miles between refueling and still have about 30 min fuel for minimums. After all the figuring, the limiting factor was my bladder. 3-3.5 hours of flight time and I'm ready to get out and stretch a bit. Getting older is a bummer. But then again, beats the alternative. Jim ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:16 PM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?b?Sm/jbw==?= Carlos Martins de Medeiros Subject: RV9-List: Range Hello Carlos: Another RV-9A flying since July. Now, the PU-IJC is 67 hs (hobbs) and 59 Hs (tach) old. Nice panel: Dynon D100 and D120. 2x296, Digitrak PA. And Im so happy again. The old one was sold and is flying in the south region of Brasil, PU-JCI. I really dont know why range tanks extended. Brasil is very large country, with not so many airfields with refueling capacity. Even so we have no problems limiting 3,6 hs leg. And there is no room for a toilet into the cockpit. To visiting my mom, Ive to navigate 1100 NM, the first leg is 600 NM. 1100 NM safety, fast and nice.... -- JC - Aracaju - Brasil ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:46 PM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Range - Extra Tanks Oi JC J deu pra ver que continua tudo jia com voc!! My idea of having extra tanks was not to extend flight duration (I entirely agree with you about the cockpit toilet impossibility), but to be less dependant on refuelling. Inside of Portugal there's obviously no problem, but I plan to fly to Africa, and it is very difficult to find frequent and reliable fuel over there. Even in Europe, mostly in the South, we can encounter several fuel related problems, from high prices and weekend fuel stations' closures, to difficulties on the methods of payment for fuel. Adding to all those reasons, my aircraft has another fuel related specificity, which is the engine, an Eggenfellner Subaru. This engine, as you can imagine, prefers to drink auto gas, which is still very rare to find in our airports. Um abrao e bons voos Carlos P.S. - um problema de sade, felizmente j quase completamente ultrapassado, impediu-me de concluir a construo do meu RV-9A. Espero que em 2008 j possa ser o ano do "first flight" > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joo Carlos Martins de Medeiros > Sent: domingo, 2 de Dezembro de 2007 23:17 > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: Range > de > Medeiros > > Hello Carlos: > Another RV-9A flying since July. Now, the PU-IJC is 67 hs (hobbs) and > 59 Hs (tach) old. Nice panel: Dynon D100 and D120. 2x296, Digitrak PA. > And Im so happy again. The old one was sold and is flying in the > south region of Brasil, PU-JCI. > I really dont know why range tanks extended. Brasil is very large > country, with not so many airfields with refueling capacity. Even so > we have no problems limiting 3,6 hs leg. And there is no room for a > toilet into the cockpit. > To visiting my mom, Ive to navigate 1100 NM, the first leg is 600 NM. > 1100 NM safety, fast and nice.... > -- > JC - Aracaju - Brasil > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:23 PM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Long range fuel for the "9" Jim Thanks for your answer. I never thought that could be the reason. Can you elaborate a little more on that subject? For example, which is difference in the diameters of the lightening holes from the -9 to the -7 or the -10? And what about the standard diameters of available aluminium tubes? Which is the external diameter of the tanks they produce? Carlos > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv9-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson > Sent: domingo, 2 de Dezembro de 2007 22:26 > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV9-List: Long range fuel for the "9" > > > Carlos, > The reason Safe-Air does not have a long range set up for the "9" > is the size of the lightning holes in the wing. The availability of > "standard" size aluminum tubing and the holes in the wings do not get > together. I looked at doing the job myself but with a good look at the > availability of aluminum tubing, it could not come together. So, I > decided that if I really wanted to extend the range of my "9" I would do > an internal tank. It would set behind the pilot and with a separate pump > to put fuel into the fuel line for the left tank (while running on the > right tank). An appropriate check valve and a quick disconnect rounds > out the stuff. I would fill the tank with it installed inside the > fuselage. Not the best way but doable. I figured having about 7 -8 gal > extra would give me 550 to 600 naut. miles between refueling and still > have about 30 min fuel for minimums. > After all the figuring, the limiting factor was my bladder. > 3-3.5 hours of flight time and I'm ready to get out and stretch a bit. > Getting older is a bummer. But then again, beats the alternative. > > > Jim > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv9-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv9-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv9-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.