---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/28/11: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:01 AM - Re: Anyone here? (racerjerry) 2. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (William DeLacey) 3. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (Konrad/Conny) 4. 10:53 AM - Re: Anyone here? (racerjerry) 5. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (Jms) 6. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (Steve Koziol) 7. 06:07 PM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (Perry Yaremchuk) 8. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: Anyone here? (Ralph Cloud) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:34 AM PST US Subject: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? From: "racerjerry" Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built to fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant with a REAL aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on this list. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? From: William DeLacey Interesting concept. I would like a little more info on how you plan to pull it off. Van's empty weight is about 1000 lbs. Leaving 320 for pilot and fuel- - - - wow. Cleaver ideas are appreciated. On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:31 AM, racerjerry wrote: > > Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built to fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant with a REAL aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on this list. > > -------- > Jerry King > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:59 AM PST US From: Konrad/Conny Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? Hi Jerry, Oh really, but wouldn't the RV-9 be a tad too heavy and/or a tad too fast for the LSA class? Konrad do not archive On Mar 28, 2011, at 7:31 AM, racerjerry wrote: > > Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built > to fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant > with a REAL aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on > this list. > > -------- > Jerry King > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:50 AM PST US Subject: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? From: "racerjerry" Hello whd 721. I am not yet building either, but as you said, RV-9 as a LSA is certainly an interesting concept. Several discussions of in-process and completed projects appear at vansairforce.net; in both RV-9, RV-12 and RV General Discussion forums. Both sides of the coin are discussed with input from a highly qualified DAR. Remember that the aircraft would need to be built lightly to FIT within the LSA limitations, much like a Cub, but not registered as an LSA. You would definitely be giving up the second seat. Start here and dont skip page 2. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=67700&highlight=lsa OR http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=6736&highlight=RV9+LSA -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335292#335292 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:02 AM PST US From: Jms Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? Don't get caught! Yes that will work. Sent from my Iphone. This is the single greatest piece of technology ever!!!!!! On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:47 AM, William DeLacey wrote: > > Interesting concept. > > I would like a little more info on how you plan to pull it off. Van's empty weight is about 1000 lbs. Leaving 320 for pilot and fuel- - - - wow. > > Cleaver ideas are appreciated. > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:31 AM, racerjerry wrote: > >> >> Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built to fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant with a REAL aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on this list. >> >> -------- >> Jerry King >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:41 PM PST US From: Steve Koziol Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? I am probably a bit short sighted, but why would someone want to go through all the hassels ofand costs of=C2-reworking an RV 9 to change the plane from its design=C2-goals to something that will fall short in load carryi ng ability and many other areas when van has designed the RV 12 specificaly for that purpose.=C2- =C2- Personally, I enjoy my 9A the way it is. =C2- Best of luck. =C2- Steve=C2- --- On Mon, 3/28/11, Jms wrote: From: Jms Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? Don't get caught!=C2- Yes that will work.=EE=90- Sent from my Iphone. This is the single greatest piece of technology ever!!!!!! On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:47 AM, William DeLacey wrote: > > Interesting concept. > > I would like a little more info on how you plan to pull it off.=C2- Van 's empty weight is about 1000 lbs.=C2- Leaving 320 for pilot and fuel- - - -=C2- =C2- =C2- wow.=C2-=C2-=C2- > > Cleaver ideas are appreciated. > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:31 AM, racerjerry wrote: > >> >> Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built to fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant with a REA L aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on this list. >> >> -------- >> Jerry King >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? From: Perry Yaremchuk Hmmm, spend $80,000 on a plane that is pretty much an illegal oddity, with a resale value about half that of a 'real' RV-9. Not a smart investment compared to a RV12 or another LSA that has been SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to meet the criteria. (But hey, it's a nearly free country, go pound a square peg ina round hole if you must.:-) On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Steve Koziol wrote : > I am probably a bit short sighted, but why would someone want to go throu gh > all the hassels ofand costs of reworking an RV 9 to change the plane from > its design goals to something that will fall short in load carrying abili ty > and many other areas when van has designed the RV 12 specificaly for that > purpose. > > Personally, I enjoy my 9A the way it is. > > Best of luck. > > Steve > > --- On *Mon, 3/28/11, Jms * wrote: > > > From: Jms > Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? > To: "rv9-list@matronics.com" > Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 2:09 PM > mc562.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=smbluthing@volexpress.com> > > > > Don't get caught! Yes that will work.=EE=90- > > Sent from my Iphone. > > This is the single greatest piece of technology ever!!!!!! > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 11:47 AM, William DeLacey > > wrote: > us.mc562.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=whd721@msn.com> > > > > > > Interesting concept. > > > > I would like a little more info on how you plan to pull it off. Van's > empty weight is about 1000 lbs. Leaving 320 for pilot and fuel- - - - > wow. > > > > Cleaver ideas are appreciated. > > > > On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:31 AM, racerjerry wrote: > > tp://us.mc562.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gki@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > > > >> > >> Possibly when a few more builders discover that an RV-9 can be built t o > fit within FAA Light Sport Aircraft limitations (single occupant with a R EAL > aircraft engine), we will see a greater following on this list. > >> > >> -------- > >> Jerry King > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335257#335257 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > nbsp; --> http://forums.matronbsp; - List Contribution Web > Site -http://www=================== === > > > > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:37 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: Re: Anyone here? Ok, RV9 as a LSA. First, to qualify, when the Airworthiness Certificate is issued, the max gross weight cannot exceed 1320, can=99t it declare lower after. The lightest certified RV9/A was approx 980 pounds empty, leaving 340 for load (fuel, pilot and baggage). So, let=99s look at some numbers. First fuel, 36 gal capacity equals 216 pounds, leaving 136 for pilot & baggage. (I haven=99t seen 136 since I was 30 in 1981). You could reduce the fuel capacity by putting the end rib of the tank inboard a few bays, but that would reduce the utility of the aircraft even more. The big problem is how to slow down the RV9, LSA rules only allow a top speed of 138 mph in level flight. The only way to do that is to change the pitch of the prop, de-rating the engine won=99t work, then you wouldn=99t have climb performance. Is it really worth it? 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