---------------------------------------------------------- RV9-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/30/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:09 AM - [Auto-Reply] RV9-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/29/11 (ron@architechnique.com) 2. 05:40 AM - Re: Anyone here? (Terry Gardner) 3. 07:12 AM - Re: Anyone here? (Richard Tasker) 4. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: RV-9 as LSA (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 5. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: RV-9 as LSA (Charlie England) 6. 01:33 PM - Re: RV9 as Light Sport was Anyone here? (Ralph Cloud) 7. 06:30 PM - Re: RV9-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/29/11 (Ian Brown) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:09 AM PST US From: ron@architechnique.com Subject: RV9-List: [Auto-Reply] RV9-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/29/11 I am away from the office and will return Wednesday, March 30th, 2011. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:03 AM PST US From: "Terry Gardner" Subject: Re: RV9-List: Anyone here? Can't be a ELSA now, it never was built as a ASTM Compliant SLSA like the RV12, so you can no longer register it as a ELSA. Before 1/31/2008, you could, and I understand there is at least one RV9 registered as an ELSA. FAR 21.191 (i)(1) specifies that all existing previously-uncertificated "ultralight-like vehicles" that do not meet the true FAR 103 ultralight requirements must be issued an experimental light-sport aircraft (ELSA) airworthiness certificate prior to January 31, 2008, or they will permanently lose the opportunity Be nice if you could! Terry LSA Repairman ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:32 AM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV9-List: Anyone here? He is speaking about RV9s that are in process of being built. They can be registered as ELSA when the time comes to register it as long as it meets the weight, speed, stall, etc. requirements. You are referring to previously existing aircraft that could qualify but were not certificated because it was not required and ELSA did not exist. Dick Tasker Terry Gardner wrote: > > Cant be a ELSA now, it never was built as a ASTM Compliant SLSA like > the RV12, so you can no longer register it as a ELSA. Before > 1/31/2008, you could, and I understand there is at least one RV9 > registered as an ELSA. > > FAR 21.191 (i)(1) specifies that all existing > previously-uncertificated ultralight-like vehicles that do not > > meet the true FAR 103 ultralight requirements must be issued an > experimental light-sport aircraft (ELSA) > > airworthiness certificate prior to January 31, 2008, or they will > permanently lose the opportunity > > Be nice if you could! > > Terry > > LSA Repairman > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:34 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: RV-9 as LSA Jerry, thanks for the references.=C2- Printed out, they will be a resourc e for my medical file. The cited FAQ's still still seem to point to the issue that someone with a formal denial is not currently eligible to fly under LSA rules.=C2- Am I misunderstanding something? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "racerjerry" Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:40:58 PM Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV-9 as LSA Hi John, Thanks for your input. =C2-I hope that you are feeling well. =C2-We cer tainly did breathe some life into this dormant forum today. =C2-Your sugg estion of utilizing AOPA=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s =C2-Medical Support Pla n is a good one. =C2-www.leftseat.com =C2-has a lot of free info on the ir site that provides help in navigating the medical quagmire too. =C2-Mi ssteps can be problematic. Quoting you: =C2-"Once a formal Denial is recieved, is LSA not removed as an option?" Your question deserves a serious answer. =C2-The short answer is NO. =C2 - I am neither a medical doctor nor aviation attorney, so I would like to ref er you to the EAA www.sportpilot.org web site where their FAQ section seems to provide direct answers to your question. =C2-Please go to the site an d search the FAQ for =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93special issuance=C3=A2=82=AC =EF=BD as I have. =C2-Note only questions appear and you must click on the question text to view the answer. =C2-I know that you will be pleasa ntly surprised. Specifically, look at: http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=121 http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=136 http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=493 http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=133 Keep in mind that as an operator of Light Sport Aircraft, that we must =C3 =A2=82=AC=C5=93Not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a s afe manner.=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD =C2-This is somewhat open to interpre tation. =C2- If you feel fit and safe to fly, I see no barriers. =C2-Go od Luck! -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335448#335448 =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:30 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV9-List: Re: RV-9 as LSA FWIW, my impression from the articles is that it's getting easier to get the waiver when you re-apply, & once you *do* get the Medical back, then you're good to go as long as you have a driver's license as long as you never take another Medical. Charlie On 3/30/2011 10:34 AM, kerrjohna@comcast.net wrote: > > Jerry, thanks for the references. Printed out, they will be a > resource for my medical file. > > The cited FAQ's still still seem to point to the issue that someone > with a formal denial is not currently eligible to fly under LSA > rules. Am I misunderstanding something? > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "racerjerry" > To: rv9-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:40:58 PM > Subject: RV9-List: Re: RV-9 as LSA > > > Hi John, > > Thanks for your input. I hope that you are feeling well. We > certainly did breathe some life into this dormant forum today. Your > suggestion of utilizing AOPAEUR^(TM)s Medical Support Plan is a good > one. www.leftseat.com has a lot of free info on their site that > provides help in navigating the medical quagmire too. Missteps can be > problematic. > > Quoting you: "Once a formal Denial is recieved, is LSA not removed as > an option?" > > Your question deserves a serious answer. The short answer is NO. > > I am neither a medical doctor nor aviation attorney, so I would like > to refer you to the EAA www.sportpilot.org web site where their FAQ > section seems to provide direct answers to your question. Please go > to the site and search the FAQ for EURoespecial issuanceEUR? as I > have. Note only questions appear and you must click on the question > text to view the answer. I know that you will be pleasantly surprised. > Specifically, look at: > http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=121 > > http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=136 > > http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=493 > > http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=133 > > Keep in mind that as an operator of Light Sport Aircraft, that we must > EURoeNot know or have reason to know of any medical condition that > would make that person unable to operate a light-sport aircraft in a > safe manner.EUR? This is somewhat open to interpretation. If you > feel fit and safe to fly, I see no barriers. Good Luck! > > -------- > Jerry King > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/view - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS > -<==== > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:01 PM PST US From: "Ralph Cloud" Subject: RE: RV9-List: RV9 as Light Sport was Anyone here? SNIP: Can't be a ELSA now, it never was built as a ASTM Compliant SLSA like the RV12, so you can no longer register it as a ELSA. Before 1/31/2008, you could, and I understand there is at least one RV9 registered as an ELSA. If you could build to meet the Light Sport requirements (under 1320 GTW, 138 mph max speed, 51 mph Stall) at issuance of Airworthiness it can be operated by a Light Sport Pilot but certified as Experimental - Amateur Built (E-AB) RV9Ralph ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:30 PM PST US From: Ian Brown Subject: RV9-List: RE: RV9-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 03/29/11 Being in pretty much the same demographic of high blood pressure but stable under drug control, I'd be interested to find out what people think is acceptable blood pressure. Mine is presently 140/78 and I'm not sure whether that would pass a Canadian (or US) aviation medical. Ian Brown, RV9A Bromont Quebec, 150 hours. "Kitfox, RV9, Hatz Classic I'm borderline high blood pressure. Normally I'm well within limits but occasionally it spikes to higher than FAA allows. The thing to do is find a friendly Flight Physical Guy. I have one. What I did was told him my concern and asked not for a Flight Physical but just a regular annual Physical Exam. 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