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Subject: | Re: RV-9 & RV-4 as LSA |
That is correct. The only way to build an LSA as an E-LSA, is if the factory has
built and certified an S-LSA, which Van's hasn't. The -9 would be an AB Experimental
that would be flyable by a sport pilot if it wasn't certified with
a gross weight higher than 1,320 lbs. I don't know the options as far as changing
the gross weight down the road, as was mentioned. In my experience in AB
Experimental, the FAA doesn't really have any record of what was set as the gross
weight, so changing it might not be as difficult as has been mentioned on
the list, but I do remember hearing that if the particular aircraft has ever
been registered at a higher gross weight than 1,320, it can never be flown as
an LSA.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:59 PM, John wrote:
>
> I may be wrong but, you don't register the RV-9 as LSA but as an
> experimental.
> If the aircraft meets the weight and performance of a LSA you can then fly
> it with a sport pilot license with its requirements.
> There are many planes that are certificated that can be flown with a LSP
> license.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RScott
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 1:29 PM
> To: rv9-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: RV-9 & RV-4 as LSA
>
>
> I have to wonder about this RV-9 as an LSA business.
>
> Yes, it has been done, but just because something can be done doesn't
> mean it's a great idea. Ford thought the Edsel was a great idea (ok,
> some of you are too young to know about the Edsel), the government
> thought ethanol in gas was a great idea, etc. Lots of bad ideas look
> like good ideas, especially if you want them to be.
>
> I understand the heartbreak of giving up a project that a person has
> been working on for years--I am in that exact situation myself with
> medical issues that make my passing a physical questionable and a half
> done RV-9A in the garage.
>
> So, I have to ask,
>
> Why? The plane designed for LSA is the -12, not the -9. So you have to
> modify and watch every gram to keep the weight down. You have to
> downgrade the prop and engine from what the plane could have had. And
> when you are done, if you are concerned about money, will it have the
> resale value? A buyer looking for an LSA RV would logically look for an
> RV-12 which would have a better payload. And once a -9 is registered as
> an LSA, it is LSA forever, so it will always be a bastardized RV-9.
>
> So here is my situation and my own reasoning.
>
> My project is for sale. The only justification I can see for finishing
> the -9 is if I thought my workmanship was super and the plane was a
> potential prize winner so I could charge big bucks for the newly
> finished airplane. But realistically, my workmanship is probably about
> typical, so why finish it? Why make it LSA-- just because I have time
> and emotion invested in it? I learned a lot while working on it so all
> is not a waste of time--I got an education.
>
> If I want an LSA RV, I'll build a -12 and probably have it in the air
> before I could have finished the -9A anyway. Or I can wait until a
> project is abandoned and have it in the air even faster. Having built a
> -9 part way, I can do a decent job of evaluating workmanship on a
> project and I can build it faster than I would as a beginner.
>
> As it is, my Interstate Cadet that I have flown for 20 years is an LSA,
> so it may just be a matter of getting out of the building business.
>
> Dick Scott
> Estacada, OR (28 miles from Van's)
> 503-630-4739
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