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On Fri, 6/2/17, RV9-List Digest Server <rv9-list@matronics.com> wrote:
Subject: RV9-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/01/17
To: "RV9-List Digest List" <rv9-list-digest@matronics.com>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2017, 3:05 AM
*I have a set of wings for a RV-9 that need minor repair with fuel tanks. I also
have the complete tail in great condition. Must sell Call for more info. (989)
335-1407.
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1. 11:02 PM - Official
RV9-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt
Dralle)
2. 11:09 PM - Official
RV9-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
________________________________
Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 11:02:55 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Official RV9-List
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV9-List
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete RV9-List FAQ including the
Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV9-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be
displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display
formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in
HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV9-List.htm
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LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
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PLEASE READ. This document
contains RV9-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers.
Understanding the RV9-List policies will
minimize problems for the
Administrator, and will help keep the RV9-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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*** Quick Start Guide to List Features
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was received, and the second
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message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't
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is dumped. This serves to
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Remember, however, that the
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with regard to the
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or Eudora. For example,
the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but
only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was
syntax was subscribed to the given List:
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your email application to match
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2) Enclosures will NOT be
included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded
on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be
appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be
available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file
types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt
xls
All other
enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The
enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint
and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
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are still people
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30MB worth of
pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest
of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES
DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting
posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale
the picture
down to something
on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to
less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a
really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click
on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and
resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link
"Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go
without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that
would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what
I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
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1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your
1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1
Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on
the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and
photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and
availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12
midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the
same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It
has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed,
and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the
day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single
message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest
list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just
select the Digest version of the List.
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Note that you *can* be
subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same
time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to
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email list. In
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digest List.
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the regular List and the digest List, you
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you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RV9-List, go
to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a
possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses
utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the
day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common
things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
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Lists of your choice.
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If you have not done so
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paper mail address in the
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Joe Smith
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098-765-1234 w
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Please forward this information
to the following email address:
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I have a file of such things,
that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your
email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other
commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing
***
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Recent messages posted to the
RV9-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime
browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this
feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message
Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
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and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly
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subscribed to the given list to use the List
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view-mode.
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front
end is available for all RV9-List content.
content. The Forums
contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the
various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any
posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and
posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content
on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message
via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register.
This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the
Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page.
Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts
to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective
Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List,
however.
The Matroincs Email List Web
BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
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and find structured and often accessed
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for other users of the mailing lists
and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted
to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
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While constructing pages for the Wiki
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that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
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One of the volunteers on that list will
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a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly
useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general
interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the
previous postings to the RV9-List is
available on line. The
archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of
forms. Each are briefly described below:
* RV9-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the RV9-List Frequently Asked
Question
page (this document).
* RV9-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info
removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
*
RV9-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small
sections that
can more easily handled.
*
RV9-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RV9-Archive.digest.complete file above,
but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data
transfer methods.
* RV9-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the RV9-Archive.digest.complete file above,
but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data
transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available
via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives"
directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as
described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available
via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the
following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing
***
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All messages posted to the
RV9-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing
feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and
individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RV9
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***
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You can use the custom,
high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse
any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows
the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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With the Matronics Email List
File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of
the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone.
To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the
following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are
related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject
description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph
description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of
each photo or file
Prior to public availability of
the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also
note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web
site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of
the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists
enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the
direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available
Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
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RV9-List Usage
Guidelines
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The following details the official
Usage Guidelines for the RV9-List.
You are encouraged to read it
carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV9-List in the
manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from
the List.
RV9-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV9-List is to
provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular
discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource
to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral
support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe
operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and
cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the
following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the
List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer
viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers,
etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you
write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If
you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be
included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an
extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts.
Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief.
Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and
geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the
building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character
graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for
information when that info is
easily obtainable from other
widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO
keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that
of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the
archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the
*entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines
from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand,
but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original
post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond
to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the
List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail
package does not necessarily send your
response to the original
poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original
poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a
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to add that is relevant and has
a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations"
are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster
directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts,
avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in
their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other
viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful.
Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the
moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This
will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste
bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or
individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are
considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their
respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly,
informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message.
The List isn't about commercialism, but
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________________________________
Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 11:09:08 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: RV9-List: Official RV9-List
Usage Guidelines
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV9-List Usage
Guidelines below. The complete
RV9-List FAQ including these Usage
Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV9-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
RV9-List Usage
Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official
Usage Guidelines for the RV9-List.
You are encouraged to read it
carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV9-List in the
manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from
the List.
RV9-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV9-List is to
provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular
discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource
to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral
support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe
operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and
cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the
following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the
List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer
viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers,
etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you
write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If
you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be
included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an
extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts.
Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief.
Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and
geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the
building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character
graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for
information when that info is
easily obtainable from other
widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO
keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that
of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the
archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the
*entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines
from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand,
but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original
post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond
to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the
List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail
package does not necessarily send your
response to the original
poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original
poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a
post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has
a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations"
are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster
directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts,
avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in
their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other
viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful.
Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the
moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This
will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste
bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or
individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are
considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their
respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly,
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