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1. 12:12 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:41 AM - Re: Home movies (len@limalimaaviation.com)
3. 06:59 AM - Oshkosh Trip (len@limalimaaviation.com)
4. 08:15 AM - Shirts/Caps Order (Lenleg@aol.com)
5. 10:26 AM - Re: Shirts/Caps Order (Steve Glasgow)
6. 11:31 AM - Oshkosh (BOB martin)
7. 12:21 PM - Re: Oshkosh (Lenleg@aol.com)
8. 01:39 PM - FBO Service In Dayton, Ohio (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 07:05 PM - Re: Oshkosh (DAVID DAVENPORT)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
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Matt Dralle
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: len@limalimaaviation.com
Larry:
The movie was great .... it is okay to spend time doing things like this
now that your plane is finished !!
Len
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Home movies
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> Date: Wed, July 28, 2004 9:52 pm
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> 7 MB download, but fun. Work in progress....
>
> http://bowenaero.com/pix/movies/planestory_draft.wmv
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com/serv
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: len@limalimaaviation.com
List:
My son Chris (19) and I flew the 8A and met up with Stormy and his son
Andrew (16) on Wednesday for the trip to Oshkosh. Weather was great
for the trip up. We made a fuel stop in Dayton, Ohio at Wright
Brothers then another stop at Plymouth, Indiana to meet up with Popeye
from the Ohio RVators. We made a 3 ship for the 1 1/2 hours flight
around the city of Chicago along the lakeshore ... beautiful !! On a
sad note ... Meigs Field runway is completely destroyed and removed ...
boycott everything Daly !!
No problems on arrival into Oshkosh. We camped and parked in the RV lot
... many many RVs there. Airshows were great as usual. The jet powered
Waco was great. The 2 P-51 aerobatic team was unbelievable. They had a
Pitts doing some of the most amazing low level stuff I have ever seen
... hanging on the prop 20 feet off the ground with no forward movement
.... flying down the runway just 10' off the ground sideways .... just
fabulous!!!
The booths seemed to be filled with all sorts of computer related stuff
for the panel. Looked at some of the new engines being developed ... I
must be missing something here because they are more expensive and burn
more fuel for the same horsepower ???
Departed for home on Saturday ... flew back across the shoreline of
Chicago only to get into some of the worst weather I have ever flown in
.... scarry !!! We landed at Gary, Indiana and waited several hours for
some improvement. Then got as far as Dayton and had to spend the night
because of weather. It was not looking good for getting across the
moutains but with an RV .... almost anything is possible !! We got up
Sunday morning with things much improved ... blasted off for the two
hour flight home at 9500'.
Really enjoyed the flying time with my son and Stormy and Andrew. Hope
more of SERV will go next year !!
Happy flying .... see everyone at Dean Meylors on Sunday !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
264 hrs
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| Subject: | Shirts/Caps Order |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
SERV:
I have received orders and payment from the following list. Orders will be
placed with Wayne8 this week (as soon as I see him) .... if you did not get
your money or order in ... we will try again around Christmas ... sorry !!!
Bill Boyd
Paul Ledoux
Bill Crothers
Dean Meylor
Dave Davenport
Dana Breda
Steve Glasgow
Mike Barbee
Ron Archer
Len Leggette
Larry Bowen
Wayne8 Williams
Thanks guys .... especially to Wayne8 for his work on the logo and
merchandise !!
Len Leggette
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| Subject: | Re: Shirts/Caps Order |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Thanks to Len for all your efforts as well. Sound like you had the reverse
of my trip to OSH.
I'm working on more INFO on the Virginia State EAA fly in and will send more
latter.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Shirts/Caps Order
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> SERV:
>
> I have received orders and payment from the following list. Orders will
be
> placed with Wayne8 this week (as soon as I see him) .... if you did not
get
> your money or order in ... we will try again around Christmas ... sorry
!!!
>
> Bill Boyd
> Paul Ledoux
> Bill Crothers
> Dean Meylor
> Dave Davenport
> Dana Breda
> Steve Glasgow
> Mike Barbee
> Ron Archer
> Len Leggette
> Larry Bowen
> Wayne8 Williams
>
> Thanks guys .... especially to Wayne8 for his work on the logo and
> merchandise !!
>
> Len Leggette
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Len, Thanks for the update on your trip to Oshkosh, Sorry we couldn't join
you! Your's was a positive post compared to the yahoo group posts I've been
reading about the show being too big and not paying attention to the
homebuilt group, read RV's. It was and is pretty sad to see all the EAA
coverage of the FORD cars and other photographers taking pictures of each
other and various other non aviation related pictures on the main web site
as well as airshow entertainment directed at the masses instead of aviation
related themes....NOT sure it has changed that much in the last 20 yrs or so
I've been going....I remember they used to give fuel to the warbirds to have
them fly in......but not to homebuilts! and one year I went with Bill
Hinckley in his long-ez,we parked on the flight line to display his Long-ez
homebuilt...the morning we left, we had to pay the fee to access the
flightline area just to gain access to the plane to leave! So we may think
things are changing but they probably are not really! Also I used to buy
the Video of Oshkosh each year until I noticed half the film was the same
clips used year after year with just the new highlights added to be able to
label it the "new" years video. We all want the EAA to be just for "us" but
in reality, as in my business too....me have to make a profit to stay in
business!
I'm looking forward to Stormys story.....
Again, sorry I missed it this year, going with you guys would have been a
hoot!
Bob Martin, Louisa VA
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Bob:
Please join us next year ... I know Larry Bowen will be flying and going with
us !!!
My biggest complaint about the show and EAA has to do with vendor pricing.
They really gouge for the food. My son and I had a chicken finger basket for
dinner the first night at one of the vendor tents. 3 tenders with fries and we
each had a coke. Total $22.00
Now if it were some type of gourmet food but it is past outrageous ...
Ford is a major sponsor ... sometimes nice to see the Ford GT racing a plane,
or my son loved seeing the new Mustang. Cars at an airshow are not for me
but I don't have to pay for them .... I do have to eat. We walked off the
grounds for dinner one night to a steak house and ate cheaper than chicken fingers
on the grounds ... something is wrong !!
Len
Len, Thanks for the update on your trip to Oshkosh, Sorry we couldn't join
you! Your's was a positive post compared to the yahoo group posts I've been
reading about the show being too big and not paying attention to the
homebuilt group, read RV's. It was and is pretty sad to see all the EAA
coverage of the FORD cars and other photographers taking pictures of each
other and various other non aviation related pictures on the main web site
as well as airshow entertainment directed at the masses instead of aviation
related themes....NOT sure it has changed that much in the last 20 yrs or so
I've been going....I remember they used to give fuel to the warbirds to have
them fly in......but not to homebuilts! and one year I went with Bill
Hinckley in his long-ez,we parked on the flight line to display his Long-ez
homebuilt...the morning we left, we had to pay the fee to access the
flightline area just to gain access to the plane to leave! So we may think
things are changing but they probably are not really! Also I used to buy
the Video of Oshkosh each year until I noticed half the film was the same
clips used year after year with just the new highlights added to be able to
label it the "new" years video. We all want the EAA to be just for "us" but
in reality, as in my business too....me have to make a profit to stay in
business!
I'm looking forward to Stormys story.....
Again, sorry I missed it this year, going with you guys would have been a
hoot!
Bob Martin, Louisa VA
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| Subject: | FBO Service In Dayton, Ohio |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Guys:
Just wanted to let you know about some of the best service I have ever had
from an FBO ... Commander Aero at Dayton Wright Brothers. We landed at MGY on
Saturday on our trip back from Oshkosh to get fuel and check weather.
Billy Sexton and Bryan Thompson from line service could not have been nicer.
These guys went far beyond the call with their service. When weather
dictated we could go no further ... Bryan was on the phone to the hotels getting
rates and availability for us ... arranging transportation ... checking for hanger
space for our planes (even though we had not even asked for it yet). We
received a fuel discount for AOPA membership.
If you are planning a stop anywhere in the Dayton area ... you want find a
better FBO.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
264 hrs
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "DAVID DAVENPORT" <ddavenport5@nc.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Oshkosh
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> Bob:
>
> Please join us next year ... I know Larry Bowen will be flying and going
with
> us !!!
>
> My biggest complaint about the show and EAA has to do with vendor pricing.
> They really gouge for the food. My son and I had a chicken finger basket
for
> dinner the first night at one of the vendor tents. 3 tenders with fries
and we
> each had a coke. Total $22.00
>
> Now if it were some type of gourmet food but it is past outrageous ...
>
> Ford is a major sponsor ... sometimes nice to see the Ford GT racing a
plane,
> or my son loved seeing the new Mustang. Cars at an airshow are not for me
> but I don't have to pay for them .... I do have to eat. We walked off the
> grounds for dinner one night to a steak house and ate cheaper than chicken
fingers
> on the grounds ... something is wrong !!
>
> Len
Len,
I would like to offer an alternative to your Oshkosh camping. My trip
partner and I stayed at Marian College in Fon-Du-Lac, in one of their dorm
rooms. The rooms themselves are great, the drive is about 15-20 minutes to
the field every day, and in the evening, you are away from most of the
Oshkosh crunch, and able to enjoy some of the truly great restaurants and
supper clubs surrounding Lake Winnebego. I would highly reccomend it. I
mean, if you are going to spend that kind of money for supper, you might as
well have grilled salmon with a baked potato instead of three chicken strips
& a Coke. Let's try to get a good SERV group together for next year, okay?
>
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