---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/05/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:22 AM - Re: Meylor Field (Sunday) Driving Directions (eregensburg@triad.rr.com) 2. 06:52 AM - Re: Prop Saga (Steve Glasgow) 3. 07:26 AM - Re: Prop Saga (John M. Ely) 4. 08:44 AM - Re: Prop Saga (Larry Bowen) 5. 10:13 AM - Re: Prop Saga (Radomir Zaric) 6. 12:45 PM - Re: Prop Saga (Larry Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:50 AM PST US From: eregensburg@triad.rr.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Meylor Field (Sunday) Driving Directions --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: eregensburg@triad.rr.com How about flying directions !!! Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Meylor Field (Sunday) Driving Directions > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > Dean: > > Would you please provide some directions for those that will be > driving in on > Sunday. > > Thanks !! > > Len > > > _- > _- > _- > _- > ======================================================================== > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:42 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Sorry to hear your problem! We all feel for you! Keep your chin up and a smile on your face, it will all work out. Removing the engine may not be as bad as you think. All the FWF work has already been done. It really should be fairly easy to remove and re-install the engine. I know the down time is quite frustrating. If you need some help all of us will be ready if needed. Also Cappy's Toy is available any time you want to get some tail wheel time while you are waiting. Are the people that built up your engine responsible? Are they acting properly? Best of Luck! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > The latest on why I can't cycle my prop... > > I've verified that the prop governor and the prop itself are working > perfectly. So, after running the serial numbers of the engine case past > Lycoming, it's been learned that it used to be used on a O-360-A4. This > uses a solid crank, and has a drain hole of some sort near the front of the > crank. If this drain hole was left open during assembly and a hollow > crank/CS prop were used, the pressure intended for the prop would be lost > through this drain hole, back into the case. That is the current theory to > explain why I can't cycle my prop. The only way to verify this theory and > fix the issue is to REMOVE THE !@#$@! ENGINE FROM THE @#$##%$ PLANE AND > TOTALLY @#$@#$ TEAR IT DOWN!! After spending months working on the FWF > portion of this project, and the FAA being ready to deem the plane airworthy > if I could just cycle the prop.... The whole situation is just about making > my physically ill. I cannot freaking believe it. Uhhhg!!!!!!! > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:17 AM PST US From: "John M. Ely" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "John M. Ely" Larry, Believe me, after building 3 RV's I know your frustration. There probably will be a few more problems - hopefully small by comparison. Just remember you have done the VAST VAST MAJORITY of work already and another few weeks will go by anyway - and by then you'll have better weather to fly in. I got signed off on July 13 and have only been able to get 7.5 flying hours due to problems and weather. It WILL get better and at least you'll have a good story to tell.... Hang in there, John Ely ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > The latest on why I can't cycle my prop... > > I've verified that the prop governor and the prop itself are working > perfectly. So, after running the serial numbers of the engine case past > Lycoming, it's been learned that it used to be used on a O-360-A4. This > uses a solid crank, and has a drain hole of some sort near the front of the > crank. If this drain hole was left open during assembly and a hollow > crank/CS prop were used, the pressure intended for the prop would be lost > through this drain hole, back into the case. That is the current theory to > explain why I can't cycle my prop. The only way to verify this theory and > fix the issue is to REMOVE THE !@#$@! ENGINE FROM THE @#$##%$ PLANE AND > TOTALLY @#$@#$ TEAR IT DOWN!! After spending months working on the FWF > portion of this project, and the FAA being ready to deem the plane airworthy > if I could just cycle the prop.... The whole situation is just about making > my physically ill. I cannot freaking believe it. Uhhhg!!!!!!! > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga From: "Larry Bowen" --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Yes, it's the engine builder's responsibility. IMO, his reaction is not all that is should be. He's asked me to remove the engine from the plane so he can take it back to his shop. If it were MY customer, I would offer to do all the work, including removal and re-install of the engine. Word of mouth is his only advertising. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Steve Glasgow said: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > > Sorry to hear your problem! We all feel for you! Keep your chin up and a > smile on your face, it will all work out. > > Removing the engine may not be as bad as you think. All the FWF work has > already been done. It really should be fairly easy to remove and > re-install > the engine. > > I know the down time is quite frustrating. If you need some help all of > us > will be ready if needed. Also Cappy's Toy is available any time you want > to > get some tail wheel time while you are waiting. > > Are the people that built up your engine responsible? Are they acting > properly? > > Best of Luck! > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bowen" > To: > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga > > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > >> >> The latest on why I can't cycle my prop... >> >> I've verified that the prop governor and the prop itself are working >> perfectly. So, after running the serial numbers of the engine case past >> Lycoming, it's been learned that it used to be used on a O-360-A4. This >> uses a solid crank, and has a drain hole of some sort near the front of > the >> crank. If this drain hole was left open during assembly and a hollow >> crank/CS prop were used, the pressure intended for the prop would be >> lost >> through this drain hole, back into the case. That is the current theory > to >> explain why I can't cycle my prop. The only way to verify this theory >> and >> fix the issue is to REMOVE THE !@#$@! ENGINE FROM THE @#$##%$ PLANE AND >> TOTALLY @#$@#$ TEAR IT DOWN!! After spending months working on the FWF >> portion of this project, and the FAA being ready to deem the plane > airworthy >> if I could just cycle the prop.... The whole situation is just about > making >> my physically ill. I cannot freaking believe it. Uhhhg!!!!!!! >> >> - >> Larry Bowen >> Larry@BowenAero.com >> http://BowenAero.com >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:27 AM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" Larry, If we can be of any help, please let us know. I'd be glad to help with removing the engine (manual labor basically since I know little about that stuff.. I'm still working on wings :) Radomir -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Yes, it's the engine builder's responsibility. IMO, his reaction is not all that is should be. He's asked me to remove the engine from the plane so he can take it back to his shop. If it were MY customer, I would offer to do all the work, including removal and re-install of the engine. Word of mouth is his only advertising. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:22 PM PST US Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga From: "Larry Bowen" --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Thanks for the offer. I'm going to start tonight and see how it goes ... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Radomir Zaric said: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" > > > Larry, > > If we can be of any help, please let us know. I'd be glad to help with > removing the engine (manual labor basically since I know little about that > stuff.. I'm still working on wings :) > > Radomir > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry > Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop Saga > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > Yes, it's the engine builder's responsibility. IMO, his reaction is not > all that is should be. He's asked me to remove the engine from the plane > so he can take it back to his shop. If it were MY customer, I would offer > to do all the work, including removal and re-install of the engine. Word > of mouth is his only advertising. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > >