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1. 05:16 AM - Re: Fly In Conflict (TWOBARBEE@wmconnect.com)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Don't try this at home... (SportAV8R@aol.com)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Fly In Conflict (SportAV8R@aol.com)
4. 07:17 AM - SERV calendar for 9/25-26 (SportAV8R@aol.com)
5. 07:33 AM - Re: Don't try this at home... (Larry Bowen)
6. 07:49 AM - Re: Fly In Conflict (Larry Bowen)
7. 07:57 AM - Re: Don't try this at home... (Radomir Zaric)
8. 03:57 PM - Possible RV Show in Winston Salem (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 04:10 PM - Re: Fly In Conflict (Lenleg@aol.com)
10. 07:44 PM - Re: Fly In Conflict (TWOBARBEE@wmconnect.com)
11. 08:33 PM - Re: Possible RV Show in Winston Salem (Larry Bowen)
12. 09:05 PM - Any Formation Flying Plans/Wanabees Out There Amongst The SERV Gang?? (James E. Clark)
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| Subject: | Re: Fly In Conflict |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: TWOBARBEE@wmconnect.com
Len, Here's what we have so far. Plan to arrive between 1 PM & 2 PM on Sat.,
Oct. 30. Formation Seminar from 2 :30 PM till 4:00 PM with possible formation
flights. Steak Diner @ 5: PM with all the trimmings & homemade ice cream.
Then, put on your dancing shoes or pull up a folding chair to be entertained by
Jr. Harris & the Blue Grass Special. Cost: $8.00 per person. RSVP ASAP. Bring a
folding chair Mike Barbee
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| Subject: | Re: Don't try this at home... |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Radomir: I'm armchair quarterbacking here, from the pix you posted, but I think
I'd seriously consider drilling yout that outboard rib for replacement with
a new one, and tweaking the rear spar back into shape with brute force and hand
tools... since it's the outboard end of the wing, the forces there are very
light: basically just the airloads from the wingtip.
Get an A&P to look at it before you trash the spar, and maybe call Van's and ask
Van hinself to view your pictures and give you some advice. My gut instinct
tells me it's salvagable, but I think the outboard rib is too far gone to straighten
- a small loss.
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Fly In Conflict |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Mike: sounds like fun! Just one question: how are we going to get home? Civil
twilight will be around 6:30 that night, and I need to be on the ground around
then to avoid deer and other dusk hazards... Note that we revert to EST the
following morning, so that Saturday is the official end of the late evening flying
season :-( I hate it when that happens!
Sounds like those of us taking in the full offerings will need to RON and fly home
in the am?
-Stormy
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| Subject: | SERV calendar for 9/25-26 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
http://www.wingsandwheels.us/
Sept 25 is the annual Wings and Wheels event at Hummel Field in Topping, VA. I've
never been, but this is apparently no hole-in-the-wall event (nor is it huge).
And it's perfectly poised as a stepping stone to a Chesapeake Bay overflight
to Tangier Island, home, I am told, of the best fresh seafood around and
a really cool adventure by plane. (Wife and I went 2 years ago but too late in
the season and, although we enjoyed having the whole island to ourselves, really
missed not having any restaurants open - ooops!)
I can check on B&B lodging availability for the group... we could spend Saturday
night there and fly home Sunday, maybe even explore the Eastern Shore on the
way home; there's a weekly Sunday soup day at the Crisfield, MD airport that
is a really nice event, especially after spending the night on an island with
no open restaurants, as I already mentioned. The hospitality at Crisfield is
top-notch; the people and food wonderful.
Interest level??? Let me know. My wife is "in," so there's a start.
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Don't try this at home... |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Send these links to Van's to get their opinion before you tear it apart.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> > Oh well, big setback for me. messed up royally tonight.
> >
> >
> > While I was adjusting things around, the wing fell off of
> the stand, and
> the
> > rear spar and one rib is now a history. So, need to start
> that all over
> > again. Not happy about it.. so hopefully (those who are
> still building)
> can
> > learn from my mistakes :-)
> >
> >
> > http://www.vitez.net/images/wing1.jpg
> >
> >
> > http://www.vitez.net/images/wing2.jpg
> >
> >
> > http://www.vitez.net/images/wing3.jpg
> >
> >
> > Definitely didn't need this now that the fuselage is on
> order.. might have
> > to postpone delivery. not sure yet.
> >
> >
> > Radomir
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Which 8th is that?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fly In Conflict
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
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> Go for it, Mike. I'll see if I can't get mine ready for the 8th.
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| Subject: | Don't try this at home... |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Thanks everyone. I'll definitely consult with Van's on Monday.
Now, two things that concern me:
1) The spar flange and web cracked. It's hard to see in these pics, but
it's right at the second rib. I am not sure if this can be fixed without a
whole reinforcement plate (not just a strip).
I took another picture that shows the problem better:
http://www.vitez.net/images/wing4.jpg
2) I'm concerned that the spar may be weakened by these bends. While
bends can be straightened (more or less), I'm wondering if that would weaken
the spar itself.
Of course, it looks a lot worse than pics when *I* am looking at it. :) I
did drill it out, but that's still not a problem to rivet it back in if it's
salvageable.
Thanks again!
Radomir
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Don't try this at home...
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Send these links to Van's to get their opinion before you tear it apart.
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| Subject: | Possible RV Show in Winston Salem |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 8/27/2004 4:17:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SFlippin@wsfcs.k12.nc.us writes:
I have talked some with the airport manager about hosting a fly-in at
Winston for RVs and/or GA aircraft. He mentioned shutting down 4/22 and having
pick-nic tables, barbecue,dogs,RV fly-bys, etc... We were discussing possible
ways to increase GA activity at INT. He sounded very favorable for an event in
October,November or perhaps the spring. Any feedback or interest?
Got this from Steve Flippin who teaches an aviation course at a local high
school.
Len
applsccm.admin.wsfcs.k12.nc.us with InterScan Messaging Security Suite;
Subject: Re: Winston-Salem Air-Show
From: SFlippin@wsfcs.k12.nc.us
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| Subject: | Re: Fly In Conflict |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 8/28/2004 8:17:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
TWOBARBEE@wmconnect.com writes:
Len, Here's what we have so far. Plan to arrive between 1 PM & 2 PM on Sat.,
Oct. 30. Formation Seminar from 2 :30 PM till 4:00 PM with possible
formation
flights. Steak Diner @ 5: PM with all the trimmings & homemade ice cream.
Then, put on your dancing shoes or pull up a folding chair to be entertained
by
Jr. Harris & the Blue Grass Special. Cost: $8.00 per person. RSVP ASAP.
Bring a
folding chair Mike Barbee
Len is in !!!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Fly In Conflict |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: TWOBARBEE@wmconnect.com
Stormy, I didn't think about you guys flying off a non-lighted strip. We have
one guest room which you and your wife are welcome to stay in with us. There
is a Days Inn, (704 694 7070) five min. from airport, for anyone else who
would like to stay over. Airport has a courtesy van. I don't think I mentioned
the
fly-in is at Anson County Airport (AFP). Mike Barbee
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| Subject: | Possible RV Show in Winston Salem |
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'd go. If able.
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lenleg@aol.com [mailto:Lenleg@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:57 PM
> To: SERV@bowenaero.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Possible RV Show in Winston Salem
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
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> In a message dated 8/27/2004 4:17:46 PM Eastern Daylight
> Time, SFlippin@wsfcs.k12.nc.us writes:
>
> I have talked some with the airport manager about hosting a
> fly-in at Winston for RVs and/or GA aircraft. He mentioned
> shutting down 4/22 and having pick-nic tables,
> barbecue,dogs,RV fly-bys, etc... We were discussing possible
> ways to increase GA activity at INT. He sounded very
> favorable for an event in October,November or perhaps the
> spring. Any feedback or interest?
>
>
> Got this from Steve Flippin who teaches an aviation course at
> a local high school.
>
> Len
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> Subject: Re: Winston-Salem Air-Show
> From: SFlippin@wsfcs.k12.nc.us
> To: Lenleg@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:17:47 -0400
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| Subject: | Any Formation Flying Plans/Wanabees Out There Amongst |
The SERV Gang??
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Just wondering ...
It really would be nice if we could get some formation practice in with the
SERV gang.
How many members have already been to a Formation Seminar?
Anyone out there already with a "Wingman" or "Lead" card??
James
Columbia, SC
... looking for some multi-ship (>2) time
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