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1. 04:03 AM - Re: VA Fly-In (N184FN@aol.com)
2. 04:18 AM - Re: Flakes in fuel (Dennis & Lori Millsap)
3. 04:42 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Larry Bowen)
4. 04:46 AM - Re: VA Fly-In (Larry Bowen)
5. 04:49 AM - Re: Flakes in fuel (N136CH@webtv.net (Charlie Hall))
6. 04:52 AM - Re: Flakes in fuel (Steve Glasgow)
7. 04:54 AM - Re: VA Fly-In (Steve Glasgow)
8. 04:54 AM - Re: VA Fly-In (Steve Glasgow)
9. 05:32 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Steve Glasgow)
10. 05:37 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Larry Bowen)
11. 06:04 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Robert Dickson)
12. 06:07 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Steve Glasgow)
13. 06:14 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Larry Bowen)
14. 07:36 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (James E. Clark)
15. 08:37 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (Larry Bowen)
16. 08:38 AM - [Fw: AOPA ePilot -- North Carolina Airspace Bulletin] (Larry Bowen)
17. 09:42 AM - Re: Flakes in fuel (SportAV8R@aol.com)
18. 10:08 AM - Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) (SportAV8R@aol.com)
19. 11:31 AM - Jeff Rose Ignition (BOB martin)
20. 12:42 PM - Re: Flakes in fuel (Wayne Williams)
21. 06:43 PM - Re: Flakes in fuel (Lenleg@aol.com)
22. 06:43 PM - Radomir - Virginia Fly In (Lenleg@aol.com)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
Is there a rain date? W8
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| Subject: | Re: Flakes in fuel |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap" <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily for
heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but for
goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them hanging
out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
Lori
N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
<Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I ordered this last night:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>
> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do the
> sidewalls need to be done too?
>
> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
> >
> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
> > Just cut and paste!
> >
> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
> > know you can't wait.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> >
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> > > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
> > back. It quite
> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
> > opportunity to
> > > tweak
> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
> > is loud!! Any
> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
> > >
> > > -
> > > Larry Bowen
> > > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > > http://BowenAero.com
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> > >>
> > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> > >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > >>
> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
> > >>
> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
> > >>
> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> > >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> > >> >
> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
> > >> blakish, but doesn't
> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
> > >> inground tank.
> > >> > I'd
> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
> > >> >
> > >> > -
> > >> > Larry Bowen
> > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
> > >> >> To: SERV
> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> > >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ============
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to be.
Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
I'll try some insulation first.
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>
> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
> for
> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>
> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but for
> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>
> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them hanging
> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>
> Lori
> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>
>> I ordered this last night:
>>
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>
>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>> the
>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>
>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >
>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>> >
>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>> > Just cut and paste!
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>> > know you can't wait.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >
>> >
>> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> > > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>> > back. It quite
>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>> > opportunity to
>> > > tweak
>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>> > is loud!! Any
>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > Larry Bowen
>> > > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> > >>
>> > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> > >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> > >>
>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>> > >>
>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>> > >>
>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>> > >>
>> > >> Steve
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> > >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>> > >> inground tank.
>> > >> > I'd
>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -
>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>> > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>> > >> >> To: SERV
>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> > >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Thanks,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> ============
>> > >> >> Matronics Forums.
>> > >> >> ============
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Didn't see one on their website...
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
N184FN@aol.com said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
>
> Is there a rain date? W8
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N136CH@webtv.net (Charlie Hall)
That is what I used. I did firewall, sides, floor and top panel back to
the instrument panel. I will do the inside of the tunnel the first time
that I have the center consol out. It helps a lot.
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| Subject: | Re: Flakes in fuel |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Larry I really don't know about the sides. Mine are not done and I don't
seem to have a problem.
Do you have the Viterman EX? I experimented with some down turns but never
flew with them. Do you get exhaust stains on the belly and or oil. I'm
told almost all RV get some. On mine I found I could minimize it by
adjusting the exhaust stacks. You might check with Dan he even has some
kind of muffler on his.
Do you use a noise CNX headset. Mine works well to combat the noise.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I ordered this last night:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>
> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do the
> sidewalls need to be done too?
>
> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>
>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>> Just cut and paste!
>>
>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>> know you can't wait.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>> back. It quite
>> > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>> opportunity to
>> > tweak
>> > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>> is loud!! Any
>> > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Larry Bowen
>> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >>
>> >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>> >>
>> >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>> >>
>> >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>> >> blakish, but doesn't
>> >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>> >> inground tank.
>> >> > I'd
>> >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>> >> >
>> >> > -
>> >> > Larry Bowen
>> >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> >> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>> >> >> To: SERV
>> >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>> >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>> >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>> >> >> clear up the flakes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Glasgow
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ============
>> >> >> Matronics Forums.
>> >> >> ============
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
As the kids say Oh Well!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: VA Fly-In
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Cancelled!
>
> http://www.vaeaa.org/
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Not yet more latter!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <N184FN@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: VA Fly-In
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
>
> Is there a rain date? W8
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I got some of the one
you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not mistaken
the Koolmat is far superior.
Just my thought.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to be.
> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
> I'll try some insulation first.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
>> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>>
>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>> for
>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>
>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but for
>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>
>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them hanging
>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>
>> Lori
>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>
>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>
>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>
>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>> the
>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>
>>> -
>>> Larry Bowen
>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>> >
>>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>> >
>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>> >
>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>> > know you can't wait.
>>> >
>>> > Steve
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>> > > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>> > back. It quite
>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>> > opportunity to
>>> > > tweak
>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>> > is loud!! Any
>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>> > >
>>> > > -
>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>> > > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>> > >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Steve
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>> > >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>> > >> inground tank.
>>> > >> > I'd
>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > -
>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>> > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>> > >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> ============
>>> > >> >> Matronics Forums.
>>> > >> >> ============
>>> > >> >> ============
>>> > >> >> ============
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ============
>>> > >> ============
>>> > >> ============
>>> > >> ============
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ============
>>> > ============
>>> > ============
>>> > ============
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap left I could see?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Steve Glasgow said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I got some of the
> one
> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
> mistaken
> the Koolmat is far superior.
>
> Just my thought.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>
>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>> be.
>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
>>> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>>>
>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>>> for
>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>> for
>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>
>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>> hanging
>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>
>>> Lori
>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>
>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>
>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>> the
>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> >
>>>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>> >
>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>> >
>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>> > know you can't wait.
>>>> >
>>>> > Steve
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>> > > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>> > back. It quite
>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>> > opportunity to
>>>> > > tweak
>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>> > is loud!! Any
>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > -
>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>>> > > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>> > >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Steve
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>> > >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>> > >> inground tank.
>>>> > >> > I'd
>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > -
>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>>> > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>> > >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> ============
>>>> > >> >> Matronics Forums.
>>>> > >> >> ============
>>>> > >> >> ============
>>>> > >> >> ============
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ============
>>>> > >> ============
>>>> > >> ============
>>>> > >> ============
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ============
>>>> > ============
>>>> > ============
>>>> > ============
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robert Dickson <robert@thenews-journal.com>
Larry
are you still using that in-the-ear headset? I was just wondering if
that's the best choice for a noisy plane like an RV. I bought the
lightspeed crosscountry anr headset and the noise doesn't seem too bad
to me as a new rv driver. Actually, not bad at all, even with the anr
turned off. I haven't done anything to the firewall. My exhaust pipes
do have an angled section at the ends. is that the turn down you're
talking about?
Robert Dickson
RV-6A 0-360, CS
21 hours, new cylinder #3 back tomorrow, I hope.
On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:42 AM, Larry Bowen wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
> be.
> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
> I'll try some insulation first.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
>> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>>
>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall
>> primarily
>> for
>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>
>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off.
>> You
>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>> for
>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>
>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>> hanging
>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>
>> Lori
>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>
>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>
>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>
>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>> the
>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>
>>> -
>>> Larry Bowen
>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>
>>>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>
>>>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>> Just cut and paste!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>> know you can't wait.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>> back. It quite
>>>>> Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>> opportunity to
>>>>> tweak
>>>>> some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>> is loud!! Any
>>>>> tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>>> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>>>> break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>>> inground tank.
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>> monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>> To: SERV
>>>>>>>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>>>>> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>>>>> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>>>>> clear up the flakes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve Glasgow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>> Matronics Forums.
>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ============
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>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Koolmat has a fireproof rubbery like material on one side the side toward
the back of the airplane and fiberglass impregnated on the side toward the
firewall. It is much more substantive and stops almost all the oil canning
of the firewall.
I have a piece for you, where do I send it. I will get it in today's mail
if you send me an address ASAP.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> How is the coolmat different? Do you have a piece of scrap left I could
> see?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Steve Glasgow said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Larry, I'm not happy with your choice of insulation. I got some of the
>> one
>> you are getting and some of the Koolmat before I decided. If I not
>> mistaken
>> the Koolmat is far superior.
>>
>> Just my thought.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Noise (was Flakes in fuel)
>>
>>
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>
>>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>>> be.
>>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -
>>> Larry Bowen
>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>
>>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
>>>> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall primarily
>>>> for
>>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off. You
>>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>>> for
>>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>>> hanging
>>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>>
>>>> Lori
>>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>>> the
>>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>>> > Just cut and paste!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>>> > start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>>> > time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>>> > know you can't wait.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Steve
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>>> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>> > > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanks.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>>> > back. It quite
>>>>> > > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>>> > opportunity to
>>>>> > > tweak
>>>>> > > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>>> > is loud!! Any
>>>>> > > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -
>>>>> > > Larry Bowen
>>>>> > > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>> > > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>> > >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>> > >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Steve
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>>> > >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>> > >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>> > >> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>> > >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>> > >> inground tank.
>>>>> > >> > I'd
>>>>> > >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > -
>>>>> > >> > Larry Bowen
>>>>> > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >> > http://BowenAero.com
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>> > >> >> To: SERV
>>>>> > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>> > >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>> > >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>> > >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>> > >> >> clear up the flakes.
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Thanks,
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Steve Glasgow
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> ============
>>>>> > >> >> Matronics Forums.
>>>>> > >> >> ============
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I plan on using those, but right now I'm using the new pair of Telex
ANR's. The stick-it-in-your-ear headsets worked fine as passenger in
Len's plane. He just has firewall insulation, I think.
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Robert Dickson said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robert Dickson
> <robert@thenews-journal.com>
>
> Larry
> are you still using that in-the-ear headset? I was just wondering if
> that's the best choice for a noisy plane like an RV. I bought the
> lightspeed crosscountry anr headset and the noise doesn't seem too bad
> to me as a new rv driver. Actually, not bad at all, even with the anr
> turned off. I haven't done anything to the firewall. My exhaust pipes
> do have an angled section at the ends. is that the turn down you're
> talking about?
>
> Robert Dickson
> RV-6A 0-360, CS
> 21 hours, new cylinder #3 back tomorrow, I hope.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:42 AM, Larry Bowen wrote:
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>
>> Larry Vetterman suggested the turn downs -- the way his exhaust use to
>> be.
>> Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief.
>> I'll try some insulation first.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>> Dennis & Lori Millsap said:
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dennis & Lori Millsap"
>>> <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
>>>
>>> Dennis says that he's noticed that he should add more foam to the side
>>> panels--more for noise than anything. He treated the firewall
>>> primarily
>>> for
>>> heat (he thought) but it's the noise that gets ya.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "turn downs"? Dennis cut his exhaust pipes off.
>>> You
>>> don't want them hanging down in the airstream. Let them be loud, but
>>> for
>>> goodness sake, don't let them slow ya down! GRIN!
>>>
>>> Actually, it puts undue stress on your exhaust system having them
>>> hanging
>>> out in the wind. Dennis broke a bracket or two before he cut them off.
>>>
>>> Lori
>>> N464DM, RV-6A, 300+ hours
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>
>>>> I ordered this last night:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>>>>
>>>> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do
>>>> the
>>>> sidewalls need to be done too?
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>
>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>>>>
>>>>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>>>>> Just cut and paste!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>>>>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>>>>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>>>>> know you can't wait.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>>>>> back. It quite
>>>>>> Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>> some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>>>>> is loud!! Any
>>>>>> tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>>>>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>>>>>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>>>>>>>> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>>>>>>> blakish, but doesn't
>>>>>>>> break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>>>>>>> inground tank.
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Larry Bowen
>>>>>>>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>> http://BowenAero.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: SERV
>>>>>>>>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>>>>>>>>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>>>>>>>>> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>>>>>>>>> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
>>>>>>>>> clear up the flakes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Glasgow
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>> Matronics Forums.
>>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>>
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| Subject: | Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Larry,
Someone once told me the cheapest noise insulation kit for an RV is a set of
Bose (or insert your favorites) noise cancelling headsets.
We have some noise deadening stuff in our RV6 but if you take the headsets
off it is STILL loud!
I have used both the Bose Series X (best feel to me) and the DRE 6000 (best
value to me) . Both (and I am sure MANY others) are fine.
James
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| Subject: | Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Got 'em. I have the high-end Telex ANR's. It was loud with the ANR on;
off, my ears started bleeding. Just kidding....
Thanks,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
James E. Clark said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark"
> <james@nextupventures.com>
>
> Larry,
>
> Someone once told me the cheapest noise insulation kit for an RV is a set
> of
> Bose (or insert your favorites) noise cancelling headsets.
>
> We have some noise deadening stuff in our RV6 but if you take the headsets
> off it is STILL loud!
>
> I have used both the Bose Series X (best feel to me) and the DRE 6000
> (best
> value to me) . Both (and I am sure MANY others) are fine.
>
>
> James
>
>
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| Subject: | [Fwd: AOPA ePilot -- North Carolina Airspace Bulletin] |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
FYI
============
A special notice to AOPA members in the central North Carolina area
==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==
FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER CHARLOTTE ON FRIDAY
AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots in and near Charlotte, North
Carolina, that the FAA is expected to issue a notam restricting flight in
the area during President Bush's planned visit on Friday, September 17.
Based on information from the Bush campaign, the president will be in the
area for an event at 3:45 p.m. local time. AOPA anticipates that the notam
will establish a large temporary flight restriction (TFR) limiting general
aviation flight. Typically, these presidential
travel-related TFRs are 60 nautical miles in diameter (30-nm radius) and
contain one or more smaller general aviation no-fly zones. AOPA will post
the notam on AOPA Online
( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html ) as soon as possible after it
is issued. A graphic will also be available.
Because TFR airspace frequently changes, AOPA strongly encourages
pilots to obtain a briefing and CHECK NOTAMS before every flight. TFR
violators will be intercepted and forced to land.
==> HELPFUL WEB LINKS <==
AOPA's Real-Time Flight Planner provides graphical
depictions of TFRs ( http://www.aopa.org/flight_planner/ ).
Check the FAA's TFR Web site ( http://tfr.faa.gov ).
Download the AOPA Air Safety Foundation's intercept procedures card (
http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2003/intercept.pdf )or review ASF's "Know
Before You Go" program ( http://www.aopa.org/asf/know_before/ ).
==> MAKE SURE YOU'RE PROTECTED <==
SIGN UP FOR AOPA'S LEGAL SERVICES PLAN
Because of the heavy call volume from members and the changing climate
for FAA regulations and increased vigilance, we want to remind you to
consider the AOPA Legal Services Plan protection. For more information or
to start your coverage immediately, call 800/USA-AOPA or visit AOPA
Online ( http://www.aopa.org/info/legalservices7/ ).
==> CONTACTING AOPA <==
********************************************************************* *
If you have additional questions about TFRs or any other * *
airspace or aviation matter, contact our AOPA Pilot Information * *
Center at 800/USA-AOPA. You can also reach us via e-mail * * (
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| Subject: | Re: Flakes in fuel |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Larry: I am sorry to hear you have joined the ranks of electronic ignition owners
who have had unexpected trouble. I know exactly what that's like :-(
I sent my Rose module back on a one-way trip to Chattanooga a long time ago, about
halfway through my test period, and have been happily flying along behind
dual mags ever since. (It's all in the archives...) I burn more fuel, have less
horsepower, and use expensive aviation plugs, but I sleep well at night and
I don't anticipate getting stuck in the Bahamas with an ignition problem <g>.
I wish these things worked as claimed 100% of the time, as I'd happily be a
customer. I would love to have all the pruported benefits with no reliability
hassles, but after a faulty experience, I remain gun-shy about these ignitions.
To paraphrase one father in ancient times, "Jeff, Klaus: I _want_ to believe.
Help thou my unbelief!" Meanwhile the LASAR is the only one that turns
my head even for a moment.
Hope you get it all ironed out. At least you won't have to split the case to solve
this one :-)
I'm hunkered down waiting for the rain to hit, and for the UPS man to bring my
blank instrument panel from Van's, so I can repair to the Bat Cave for top secret
panel upgrades...
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Noise (was Flakes in fuel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Just as I suspected; your problem is Flakes in the cockpit!
>>Right now things are so loud, I'd give up five knots for some relief. <<
What kind of statement is that?! This is about SPEED, Larry, not your ears. Grow
a pair (of ear plugs) and flog that new rocket for all she's worth. To heck
with the decibels; we've got knots!!!!! YEE-HAW!
-Stormy (too much coffee this morning, I guess)
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| Subject: | Jeff Rose Ignition |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
I recently heard the JR has stopped selling his
systems but will continue to service those fielded.
Larry,
I too am sorry to hear about your electronic ignition problems.
Like Stormy, I'm running2 mags and would love to install an electronic
ignition system, but everytime I hear about a problem it makes me glad to
have the basic "old" sysytem.
Good Luck,
Bob Martin
ps..I use Lightspeed ANR's.....and yes it is LOUD if I take them
off....actually deafening!!
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Larry:
I did the firewall and floor. I came back and added the floor more for
vibration, but it helped with noise, too.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Glasgow
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
<willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Larry I really don't know about the sides. Mine are not done and I don't
seem to have a problem.
Do you have the Viterman EX? I experimented with some down turns but never
flew with them. Do you get exhaust stains on the belly and or oil. I'm
told almost all RV get some. On mine I found I could minimize it by
adjusting the exhaust stacks. You might check with Dan he even has some
kind of muffler on his.
Do you use a noise CNX headset. Mine works well to combat the noise.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I ordered this last night:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/dampingpanels.php
>
> Does dampening the firewall give the most gain for the effort? Or do the
> sidewalls need to be done too?
>
> I'm thinking of getting some turn-downs for the exhaust pipes too...
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:17 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Mike and I used Koolmat Heat Barrier from Spruce around page 123.
>>
>> Used spray glue to hold it in place, no problems so far.
>> Just cut and paste!
>>
>> Sorry to hear of the latest problem, better to quit after
>> start than after takeoff. I promise after you have done your
>> time (40 hours) you will just fly it and put it to bed. I
>> know you can't wait.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>>
>>
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > I'm down for now. I had to send the Rose ignition module
>> back. It quite
>> > Sunday shortly after start-up. Anyway, I'm taking the
>> opportunity to
>> > tweak
>> > some things and sound proof the firewall. Boy that thing
>> is loud!! Any
>> > tips for me related to sound-proofing? Anyone? Bueller?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Larry Bowen
>> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >>
>> >> They are very small! A spec for sure!
>> >>
>> >> I even had them in OSH during preflight before I left.
>> >>
>> >> Again congrats on the event and many more to come.
>> >>
>> >> Steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>> >> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> >> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
>> >> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Like corn flakes sized flakes? Or specs? Proseal is
>> >> blakish, but doesn't
>> >> > break down from fuel. Maybe it's from the fuel truck or
>> >> inground tank.
>> >> > I'd
>> >> > monitor to try to establish a trend, if any......
>> >> >
>> >> > -
>> >> > Larry Bowen
>> >> > Larry@BowenAero.com
>> >> > http://BowenAero.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 4:46 PM
>> >> >> To: SERV
>> >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flakes in fuel
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> >> >> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> During preflight when the aircraft has set for some time,
>> >> >> when I drain fuel from under the wing I find some brown or
>> >> >> blackish flakes. It takes about 6 ounces of draining to
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>> >> >> Has anyone experienced something similar?
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>> >> >> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 9/15/2004 4:47:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
willfly@carolina.rr.com writes:
> I have a OB 8. Could it be the tanks sealer is dissolving?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
Steve:
Sounds like a little bit of proseal may be coming out ... you could easiely
remove the tank drain completely and drain several gallons out ... or when you
get the tanks down in fuel ... pull out the tank drain and let the last few
gallons completely wash out the wing ..
Len
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Radomir:
If by some miracle we get to go on Sunday ... we can talk by email on
Saturday. You can also call me at home : 336-605-4762.
I am on the west coast until Friday night.
Len
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