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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) (BOB martin)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 (David Davenport)
3. 07:58 AM - Flying Friday (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 08:10 AM - Prop Change (RGray67968@aol.com)
5. 08:35 AM - Re: Prop Change (N184FN@aol.com)
6. 08:58 AM - Re: Prop Change (RGray67968@aol.com)
7. 05:41 PM - Re: RV-List: Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) (Larry Bowen)
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| Subject: | Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Larry,
We followed the plans like you did and came up with the same results.
We were replacing the original pants on your -6's for upgrading purposes.
We have come to realize the original design was better for grass strips, etc
Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual but
didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had to
enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
landing. When we replaced tires we went to the air stop tubes and now keep
the air pressure about 35+ and watch it a little more......
Like Dana said we watch the step downs at the edge of the pavements a little
closer too. When we land at grass strips(mostly, Stormy's) we don't seem to
have any problems. My opinion is the design is fine for normal flying and
landing but could get hurt in odd taxi or bounced landings. The plus side is
the fiberglass is easy to fix.....:-)
I hate admit this but I will.....We used the Stainless Steel brackets
instead of the Alum ones vans supplied and before we painted them, he had a
bad bounced landing that broke the bottom rear half of the pant....actually
a small tear, easy to repair. but it also bend the SS bracket and when it
bent, it rubbed the brake disc. The fix was pretty easy as we disassembled
it and straightened it out and fixed the fiberglass....and yes, enlarged the
gap between the tire and pant. Now we think about our pants on every
landing.
It is amazing as I have come to learn to fly this taildragger, I first
thought about the tail while landing, then in crosswinds I thought about the
wingtips while landing, and now I feel I have progressed to only thinking
about the wheel pants while landing....I think I'm improving....:-)
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Bob Martin, Louisa County,VA "Veggie Tale Squadron"
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>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>I've fit the wheel pants per the plans, with the plane in level attitude.
>When I set the tail back down, I have what seems to be very little
>clearence
>between the ground and the aft half of the fairing. The aft corner is only
>1.6" above the ground, and there is maybe .75" clearance near the tire.
>Will this survive a firm landing or an unkept grass strip? I guess raising
>the fairing higher than the 1" above the top of the tire is the answer.
>What have others done?
>
>-
>
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| Subject: | Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "David Davenport" <ddavenport5@nc.rr.com>
Len, Robin and I will do our best to be there. See everybody then, if not
before.
David Davenport
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
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> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see planes
> lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just Larry and
> me !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
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>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
SERV:
Larry Bowen and I are flying early tomorrow morning. We are launching
around 8am and going down to Stanly Cty (Albemarle) KVUJ ... take the coutesy
car
for breakfast.
All or any are welcome to join us !! We will be monitoring 122.85 ..
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
286 hrs
cell: 336-210-4308
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Hi Gang,
Happy Thanksgiving!!
Wayne asked me about changing my O360 fixed pitch over to a Hartzell C/S. I
replied to him directly but thought a few of you may interested in the change
over as well.
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - read on:
Hi Wayne,
Transition went fine. After I did mine another member of our group changed
his over and yet another has a C/S on order as we speak and will make the change
as soon as his prop arrives.
Here's a list of parts you'll need:
-new prop
-governor
-governor adapter - Aerosport Power
-governor gear drive - Aerosport Power
-governor to engine - oil supply line - Aerosport Power
-all fittings and gaskets for the governor and supply line - Aerosport Power
-governor control bracket - Vans
-vernier cable - Vans
-new rear crank plug - Aerosport Power
-tool to install the new rear crank plug - I have one
-new spinner - Vans
-new bulkheads for the spinner - Vans
-new doubler plate for the rear bulkhead - Vans
-firewall pass through grommets - local or look in your toolbox or buy from
Vans
Don't forget, this is a MAJOR CHANGE and will require some FAA paperwork.
Mine was easy, just had to make the entries in my logs and fly off 5 hours with
no passengers in my phase 1 area.
Also you'll need some clean towels.....to wipe the grin off your face after
your 1st flight....ha ha.
Took me 7 days but a lot of that was making a new spinner with no visable
screws in it. That included paint as well.
You can do it in 3 days if you work on it.
Good luck,
Rick - home email is rgray67968@aol.com
or call me at 740-678-8031 home or 740-350-5188 cell
Rick:
Len tells me you just upgraded to a CS prop. I'm building a 9 and am
thinking of moving my FP 180hp to the 9 and installing a new Superior XP-360
with a CS prop in my 8. How did your transition go? Thanks for the input!
Wayne
Danville, VA
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
What was the cost of the conversion? W8
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Wayne,
Overhauled Hartzell C/S and Woodward governor was $3,800 total plus a few
bucks shipping from US Propellers in NC.
Flexible oil line $100
Vernier prop control cable ~$50
Control cable bracket ~$12
Misc stuff ~$10
Less $1,500 AND a Vans spinner kit for my Warnke wood prop that I sold to
offset the cost.
Total out of pocket ~$2,472
Not bad for a Zero time C/S Hartzell :
).
And a GREAT addition to my RV....especially for formation flying. Kinda' like
having a 'brake pedal' on the floor :
). Also, power is RIGHT THERE when you
need it.
And....I get about 7-8 mph on the top end....although it seems to use about a
half gallon an hour of fuel more than the wood prop at cruise.....(now I'm up
to about 8.7/hr) but.....I'm going faster so it's a trade off.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm
What was the cost of the conversion? W8
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| Subject: | RE: RV-List: Wheel Pants (Tailwheel) |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Thanks for all the input on the wheel pants. Looks like I have some re-work
ahead of me to raise them up a little. Better to do it now than after
things are painted.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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