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1. 02:26 AM - List Contributors Lagging By 38%... (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:08 AM - Wheel Pants (Ron Schreck)
3. 04:59 AM - Wheel Pants and more (BOB martin)
4. 12:29 PM - Re: Flying Friday (SportAV8R@aol.com)
5. 03:20 PM - Oil temp dropping to min. (Charles Heathco)
6. 04:18 PM - Re: Flying Friday (Larry Bowen)
7. 04:20 PM - Re: Oil temp dropping to min. (Larry Bowen)
8. 04:21 PM - Re: Flying Friday (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 04:24 PM - Re: Oil temp dropping to min. (Lenleg@aol.com)
10. 04:35 PM - Re: Oil temp dropping to min. (Charles Heathco)
11. 04:36 PM - Re: Flying Friday (Robert Dickson)
12. 04:39 PM - Re: Flying Friday (Charles Heathco)
13. 04:42 PM - Re: Oil temp dropping to min. (Charles Heathco)
14. 05:01 PM - Re: Wheel Pants and more (Larry Bowen)
15. 05:54 PM - Re: Oil temp dropping to min. (Robert Dickson)
16. 11:20 PM - Re: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 (James E. Clark)
17. 11:30 PM - Re: Flying Friday (James E. Clark)
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| Subject: | List Contributors Lagging By 38%... |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this
year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 38%! I'm
hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their
support... ;-)
Please remember that its solely your direct Contributions that keep these
Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't
want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding
advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really*
don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial
atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Won't you please take a moment to make a contribution today in support of
the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have
already made their generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
Bob,
How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
Ron Schreck
RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
>>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual but
didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had to
enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
landing.
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| Subject: | Wheel Pants and more |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Ron,
The 1/2 is and was enough in front and rear where the tire doesn't get
larger but where it bulges we probably got close to 3/4"....that, with new
vigilance on the tire pressure which is helped by the air-stop tubes.......
I never thought about raising the pant, like larry is proposing.
I read one report where a builder even lowered his for more tire coverage.
Looking at the tire from the air, in flight, there seems to be plenty
showing.
One builder told me his didn't come with the rear bulkhead in the back half,
and he taxied on gravel one time and it acted like a scoop.....the rear
bulkhead seems important to the overall strength of the complete assembly
and don't forget the drain hole for the space behind the bulkhead.
as a note here...I reinforced the mounting screw hole areas with a few extra
layers of fiberglass cloth about 2 inches square. I also made sure the
lower tire opening edges were nice and round so not to cut the tire if it
did touch.
While on the subject, I used a trick to find the holes to drill into the
nutplates once I had perfect alignment......I made a little crude wiring
harness with xmas tree lights.....from the LOWES aviation electrical dept.
and taped then behind the nutplate so I could see the hole perfectly.
Also.....I used Flox (epoxy and floxed cotton) as a filler under the axle
bracket to fill the gap between the bracket and the pant. Once it cured, I
then added the rivets thru the assembly for a good strong connection.
Happy Building
Bob Martin, Louisa County, Va.... Veggie Tale Squadron......:-)
>Bob,
>
>How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
>
>Ron Schreck
>RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
>
> >>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as usual
>but
>didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther guys
>speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the tire and found we had
>to
>enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven forbid a bounced
>landing.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to fly until later on
this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22 year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie
for a few minutes, then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged
4 so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not
a challenge anymore ;-)
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SportAV8R@aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:29 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to
> fly until later on this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22
> year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie for a few minutes,
> then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged 4
> so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile.
> It's just not a challenge anymore ;-)
>
> -Stormy
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| Subject: | Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
My oil temp is not as high as it use to be when it was warmer out either. I
have about half of the oil cooler taped off with AL tape. It geets the job
done.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:20 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco"
> --> <cheathco@comcast.net>
>
> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower
> than norm, Today able to get up again and it never got but
> just above min. I would intuitivly guess it would be more
> likely the sender than the guage, but I would like to know if
> anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/2004 3:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SportAV8R@aol.com writes:
> Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not a
> challenge anymore ;-)
>
> -Stormy
>
Froze my buns off in the stand last night ... saw 3 on the way into the stand
and then nothing in the stand ... wind was really blowing ... glad I was not
flying !!! (Haha)
Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth and you could
see forever !!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cheathco@comcast.net writes:
> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>
I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to get the
oil temp up to normal ...
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
287 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I thought about that Larry, but its hardly registering, and wasnt that cold
today (I agree, great day to fly 3.1 for me) Aso last flight was somewhat
balmy and was well below norm. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> My oil temp is not as high as it use to be when it was warmer out either.
> I
> have about half of the oil cooler taped off with AL tape. It geets the
> job
> done.....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Heathco [mailto:cheathco@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:20 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco"
>> --> <cheathco@comcast.net>
>>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower
>> than norm, Today able to get up again and it never got but
>> just above min. I would intuitivly guess it would be more
>> likely the sender than the guage, but I would like to know if
>> anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robert Dickson <robert@thenews-journal.com>
yes indeed. I could see as far as my crappy eyes would let me. And at
5500 it was s m o o t h .
Robert Dickson
RV-6A turned 60 hrs today
On Nov 26, 2004, at 7:18 PM, Larry Bowen wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> It was a good day to be up. 3.9 hours today and 31.4 total now.......
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SportAV8R@aol.com [mailto:SportAV8R@aol.com]
>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:29 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>>
>> Sorry- was too busy frezing my buns off on the deer stand to
>> fly until later on this afternoon, when I took Kevin, the 22
>> year old, to KBCB to visit his sweetie for a few minutes,
>> then back to the grind (literally: venison chuck)... Bagged 4
>> so far, Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile.
>> It's just not a challenge anymore ;-)
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Friday |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
You guys ought to go up to Mo. Reported over 1 millon in the state
estimated. when I was up there mid oct they were knee deep on the roads in
the evening where I grew up. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Friday
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 3:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> SportAV8R@aol.com writes:
>
>> Len; I think I'll lay off the hunting for awhile. It's just not a
>> challenge anymore ;-)
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>
> Froze my buns off in the stand last night ... saw 3 on the way into the
> stand
> and then nothing in the stand ... wind was really blowing ... glad I was
> not
> flying !!! (Haha)
>
> Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth and you
> could
> see forever !!
>
> Len
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
The Oil cooler on my 6a is back on the lower firewall as compared to my
cherokee up in the direct outside air path. Last winter cherokee oil temp
was pretty close to norm even in Jan. charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Oil temp dropping to min.
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheathco@comcast.net writes:
>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than norm,
>> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I would
>> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage, but I
>> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
>
> I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to get
> the
> oil temp up to normal ...
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 287 hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Wheel Pants and more |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
FYI - Wheel pant pictures are on my site. What do you think?
http://BowenAero.com
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com/serv
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOB martin [mailto:libertyva@msn.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:58 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wheel Pants and more
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin"
> <libertyva@msn.com>
>
> Ron,
> The 1/2 is and was enough in front and rear where the tire
> doesn't get larger but where it bulges we probably got close
> to 3/4"....that, with new vigilance on the tire pressure
> which is helped by the air-stop tubes.......
> I never thought about raising the pant, like larry is proposing.
> I read one report where a builder even lowered his for more
> tire coverage.
> Looking at the tire from the air, in flight, there seems to
> be plenty showing.
> One builder told me his didn't come with the rear bulkhead in
> the back half, and he taxied on gravel one time and it acted
> like a scoop.....the rear bulkhead seems important to the
> overall strength of the complete assembly and don't forget
> the drain hole for the space behind the bulkhead.
> as a note here...I reinforced the mounting screw hole areas
> with a few extra layers of fiberglass cloth about 2 inches
> square. I also made sure the lower tire opening edges were
> nice and round so not to cut the tire if it did touch.
>
> While on the subject, I used a trick to find the holes to
> drill into the nutplates once I had perfect alignment......I
> made a little crude wiring harness with xmas tree
> lights.....from the LOWES aviation electrical dept.
> and taped then behind the nutplate so I could see the hole perfectly.
> Also.....I used Flox (epoxy and floxed cotton) as a filler
> under the axle bracket to fill the gap between the bracket
> and the pant. Once it cured, I then added the rivets thru the
> assembly for a good strong connection.
>
> Happy Building
> Bob Martin, Louisa County, Va.... Veggie Tale Squadron......:-)
>
>
> >Bob,
> >
> >How much tire clearance did you end up with on your pants?
> >
> >Ron Schreck
> >RV-8, Gold Hill Airpark
> >
> > >>>Larry and I were looking for the newer looks and more speed as
> > >>>usual
> >but
> >didn't know we were giving up some utility as we hadn't heard orther
> >guys speak of it. We started with 1/2" space around the
> tire and found
> >we had to enlarge this where the tire bulges from low air or heaven
> >forbid a bounced landing.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp dropping to min. |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robert Dickson <robert@thenews-journal.com>
I have the same problem. This morning I saw 138 oil temp on a 30 min
flight to FAY. Why doesn't the vernatherm work to get oil temps up to
where they should be? I thought that oil wasn't supposed to flow to the
cooler until it reaches the temp specified on the vernatherm. Seems
like that ought to eliminate having to block off the cooler. What don't
I understand about what's happening here?
Robert Dickson
RV-6A
On Nov 26, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2004 6:21:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> cheathco@comcast.net writes:
>
>> Lasttime I was able to get up, I noticed oil temp was lower than
>> norm,
>> Today able to get up again and it never got but just above min. I
>> would
>> intuitivly guess it would be more likely the sender than the guage,
>> but I
>> would like to know if anyone has had this problem? charlie (RV6A)
>>
>
> I have to block off at least half the oil cooler in colder weather to
> get the
> oil temp up to normal ...
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 287 hrs
>
>
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| Subject: | SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Sounds like a plan, Len.
Hopefully we can get a few from the "Palmetto Wing"
See ya there ... again, weather permitting. :-)
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Lenleg@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SERV Christmas Party Dec. 11
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> SERV:
>
> Christmas Party / Get Together / Lunch
>
> Saturday December 11 around 1:00pm
>
> Stantons BBQ Bennetsville, South Carolina
>
> GPS Coordinates: N34-43-9 W79-40-0 Runways 12 / 30 Freq. 122.9
>
> If you have never flown into Stantons ... it is a little hard to
> find from
> the air ... runway is right beside the restaurant ...should see
> planes lined up
> in the parking area. It is a grass strip. Event is on the
> calendar with
> all info about the airport there too ... _www.bowenaero.com/serv_
> (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv)
>
> We can do some airport hopping after lunch !!!
>
> Please respond with your intentions ... don't want it to be just
> Larry and
> me !!
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
> 286 hrs
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Well Len, Ken and I got a little flying in this afternoon too.
Was up LATE (in the cold) finishing up a marker beacon receiver install as
part of the IFR upgrade of "Papa Juliette". Then the *replacement* STROBE
assembly arrived so that got installed as well.
Was still clear and smooth so we did a bit of formation practice ... boy was
I rusty from no practice for a week or two. Then on to do some practice ILS
approaches at KCAE. All seems to work except I need to get the volume
cranked up a bit on the RCVR and the blue light was hard to see in the
BRIGHT sunlight. But then again that should not be a problem. :-)
We gotta get the "formation" members of this gang together somewhere for
some formation practice.
James
{SNIP}
>
> Larry and I flew this morn ... it was so nice early ... smooth
> and you could
> see forever !!
>
> Len
>
>
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