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     2. 11:05 AM - Re: Fw: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set (Terrence Gardner)
     3. 11:49 AM - Re: Fw: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set (ATRdriver@aol.com)
     4. 12:25 PM - Re: Fw: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set (ATRdriver@aol.com)
     5. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 01/18/05 (Lenleg@aol.com)
     6. 01:35 PM - Fw: [OhioValleyRVators] For the 'Speedster' in you!! (Lenleg@aol.com)
     7. 01:48 PM - Fw: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (Lenleg@aol.com)
     8. 01:56 PM - Re: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set (Larry Bowen)
     9. 02:02 PM - Re: Fw: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (James E. Clark)
    10. 02:04 PM - Re: Fw: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (Lenleg@aol.com)
    11. 04:46 PM - Re: Fw: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (bill crothers)
    12. 07:21 PM - Re: Fw: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (Larry Bowen)
 
 
 
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      FYI -
      
      Electric Bob is putting on one of his seminars in NC.  See below if
      interested.
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
      ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
      Subject: AeroElectric-List: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set
      From:    "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
      
      We've just concluded preparations for offering a weekend
      seminar in the facilities of EAA Chapter 1114 in Apex
      NC near Raleigh. Interested individuals are invited to
      check out the details at:
      
      http://aeroelectric.com/seminars/ApexNC.html
      
      
              Bob . . .
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt@mindspring.com>
      
      This will be at Cox Field. Fly in and fly out!
      
      Terry
      
      
      > [Original Message]
      > From: Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com>
      > To: serv <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
      > Date: 1/21/2005 11:43:06 AM
      > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set
      >
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
      <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      >
      > FYI -
      >
      > Electric Bob is putting on one of his seminars in NC.  See below if
      > interested.
      >
      > -
      > Larry Bowen
      > Larry@BowenAero.com
      > http://BowenAero.com
      >
      >
      > ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
      > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set
      > From:    "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
      > Date:    Fri, January 21, 2005 11:25 am
      > To:      aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
      >
      > We've just concluded preparations for offering a weekend
      > seminar in the facilities of EAA Chapter 1114 in Apex
      > NC near Raleigh. Interested individuals are invited to
      > check out the details at:
      >
      > http://aeroelectric.com/seminars/ApexNC.html
      >
      >
      >         Bob . . .
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: ATRdriver@aol.com
      
      Hi Terry,
      
      My name is Terry!  I saw the email for the June 4-5 Aeroelectric  Workshop in 
      Apex, NC and may be interested!  I am planning to build an  RV-8, although I 
      don't think I will be able to start for a couple of years  because I don't 
      have workshop space presently.  I already have Bob's  Aeroelectric manual and 
      believe the course would be beneficial.  I wouldn't  be able commit to the course
      
      until about the middle of February when I could  confirm a change of 
      vacation.  
      
      Any further info that you have would certainly be appreciated.
      
      Regards,
      
      Terry Swindle
      Boca Raton, FL
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: ATRdriver@aol.com
      
      
      Sorry...this email was meant to go to Terry Gardner, not the whole  group!
      
      In a message dated 1/21/2005 2:50:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      ATRdriver@aol.com writes:
      
      -->  RVSouthEast-List message posted by: ATRdriver@aol.com
      
      Hi  Terry,
      
      My name is Terry!  I saw the email for the June 4-5  Aeroelectric  Workshop 
      in 
      Apex, NC and may be interested!  I am  planning to build an  RV-8, although I 
      don't think I will be able to  start for a couple of years  because I don't 
      have workshop space  presently.  I already have Bob's  Aeroelectric manual 
      and  
      believe the course would be beneficial.  I wouldn't  be able  commit to the 
      course 
      until about the middle of February when I could   confirm a change of 
      vacation.  
      
      Any further info that you have  would certainly be appreciated.
      
      Regards,
      
      Terry Swindle
      Boca  Raton,  FL
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      
      
      In a message dated 1/19/2005 3:35:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      lee.logan@gulfstream.com writes:
      
      I will  take a hat and a shirt.  Who/when/where do I send the money  to?
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Lee...
      
      Lee  Logan
      
      
      Lee:
      
      I will make a final order posting on Monday along with a request for  payment 
      with mailing address ... totals, etc
      
      Len
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      
      
      In a message dated 1/19/2005 5:37:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      rgray67968@aol.com writes:
      
      Hi  Gang,
      For those of you looking to go a little 'faster' in your RV....here's  
      a GOOD article on Dave Anders and his RV4....about 6mph FASTER than  
      John Harmon's HRII.
      
      I know at least ONE GUY that will read this  :
      )....'eh Bullet??
      Rick at the Buffalo Farm - read on:
      
      RV-4 NEW  CAFE TRIAVIATHON CHAMPION
      BY BRIEN A SEELEY AND THE CAFE BOARD 
      
      The CAFE Board was initially surprised to learn  that an RV-4 builder 
      wanted an opportunity to break the Triaviathon  record. We explained 
      to him that the CAFE Triaviathon record attempts were  made by 
      invitation only. To qualify, an aircraft was required to exhibit  
      outstanding performance in top speed, climb and stall speed. The  
      typical candidates were aircraft with well over 300 horsepower. 
      We  politely told the RV-4 builder that we would consider hosting his 
      record  attempt if he would submit an explanation of how his aircraft 
      could  realistically qualify as a contender. This was, after all, a 
      very  difficult record to break. The original Triaviathon record, set 
      by John  Harmon in the Harmon Rocket on May 8, 1993 had stood for over 
      4 years.  Jeff Ackland's record attempt in March 1997 in the 500 hp 
      Legend, had  missed the record by about 8%. Jeff had vowed to return 
      with more  horsepower in the Legend. 
      
      The RV-4 builder was persistent. He  submitted an im- pressive list of 
      his RV-4 performance modifications. That  list, shown in the sidebar, 
      unquestionably qualified him as a true student  of CAFE racing ideas. 
      But could an aircraft with only 200 hp seriously  challenge the 
      record? We decided to let him have a shot at it.  
      
      When he arrived at the CAFE Foundation hangar, it became apparent  
      that this RV-4 builder meant business. He practiced dentistry in  
      Visalia, California as his day job. By night, however, he was a  
      passionate airplane builder. His name was Dave Anders. He seemed  
      deceptively calm and mild mannered for a man who was about to make a  
      world record attempt. The care and precision evident in all of his  
      many RV-4 modifications spoke volumes about the depth of his  
      commitment to this project. Several of these modifications merit  
      
      The polished aluminum finish on this aircraft, which  revealed every 
      rivet head, showed superb metalwork. The elegantly simple  and clean 
      design of the controls, hardware and interior must also have  been a 
      factor in this aircraft winning so many workmanship awards.  However, 
      besides per- fecting the aircraft's appearance, Dave also focused  
      intensely on drag reduction and increasing the engine's power output.  
      This passion for excellence in both cosmetics and per- formance  
      suggested he might surprise us with his score. 
      
      Preparing N230A for  the record attempt would mean achieving an 
      optimized power to weight  ratio. This meant removing as many non-
      essential parts of the aircraft as  was legal within the FARs. At the 
      August 1997 Oshkosh Convention, when  Dave made the decision to go 
      after the record, he began dieting. By the  time he arrived at CAFE, 
      he had lost 23.5 pounds of body weight in 7  weeks! He figured that 
      every pound he lost would increase his rate of  climb by 3 fpm. 
      
      The cooling system modifications include 34 square  inches of total 
      inlet area through two machined, axi-symmetric inlets with  internal 
      diffusers to a downdraft plenum. The cooling outlet is 24.7  square 
      inches and is augmented with exhaust flow. The fuel injector servo  
      throat was opened and its diffuser re-profiled, eliminating 3 of the 
      4  ram sensing tubes in the throat. Holes, radii and polished chamfers 
      were  used everywhere possible to save weight. 
      
      TRIAVIATHON HISTORY
      The  CAFE Triaviathon rewards the best combination of top speed, stall 
      speed  and rate of climb. These three flight regimes represent an 
      aircraft's  'athleticism' and mutually conflict from an aircraft 
      design point of view.  For example,designing for low stall speed 
      typically limits an aircraft's  top speed, and top speed often demands 
      shorter wing spans which reduce  climb performance. 
      
      The perpetual CAFE Triaviathon Trophy, created by  the CAFE Board in 
      1993, symbolizes this conflict in aircraft design. On  display in the 
      EAA Air Adventure Museum, it honors the aircraft designer  and the 
      pilot who set records in this event. These records are also  certified 
      by the National Aeronautics Association. 
      
      The Triaviathon  scoring formula is: 
      
      28110625 x  [Vmax  x  ROC]2
      Score =   [4100625 + Vso4]   x  109
      where Vso is stall speed, ROC is rate of climb and Vmax is the  top 
      speed at 6000' pressure altitude. 
      
      The formula is complex  because it was designed to proportionately 
      reward stall speeds between 35  and 70 mph. Stalls above 70 mph 
      receive a progressively increasing scoring  penalty. Stalls below 35 
      mph do little to improve the score. 
      
      The  measured rate of climb is converted to equal that for the 
      altitude window  of 2500'-3500' in standard day atmosphere. 
      
      An initial, high speed  calibration flight is performed while 
      recording airspeed and altitude on  both a wingtip barograph and a 
      cabin barograph. The barograph, mounted on  the wingtip, uses its own 
      calibrated pitot-static source while the cabin  barograph is connected 
      to "T" fittings in the aircraft's pitot static  system. The cal- 
      ibrated airspeeds (CAS) recorded on the wingtip barograph  provide a 
      correction table for the cabin barograph recordings. 
      
      The  wingtip barograph is removed for the second flight and the 
      maximum speed  is recorded by the cabin barograph only. That speed is 
      then cor- rected to  CAS using the airspeed correction table derived 
      from the wingtip mounted  barograph. If the test flight shows that the 
      stock static system is  accurate, the rate of climb performance of the 
      second flight, made without  the wingtip barograph, can be used for 
      scoring. If the static system is  not accurate, the ROC from the first 
      flight is used in the scoring.  
      
      PREPARATIONS
      Dave arrived at the CAFE hangar on Friday, September  26, 1997, with 
      his wife, Diane, and an entourage of well-wishers. The  first task was 
      to drain all of the fuel from his aircraft and measure its  empty 
      weight. N230A weighed just 975 lbs. empty including the IO-360 A1A  
      Lycoming engine and Hartzell constant speed propeller. Installation 
      of  the barographs and camcorder was made by the CAFE team in 
      preparation for  a record attempt at dawn. Everyone hoped for clear 
      skies and smooth air.  
      
      Meanwhile, Dave applied thin blue translucent Mylar tape to all gaps  
      and surface slits on the aircraft to reduce leakage drag. He 
      installed  a very small "racing" tailwheel. Tiny, precisely-built 
      afterbody fairings  for the fuel tank quick-drains and aileron hinges 
      (using scaled airfoil  coordinates!) were installed in preparation for 
      the record run.  
      
      Dave arrived the next morning wearing very light clothing ("Hammer  
      pants") and very lightweight shoes like those used by wrestlers. He  
      skipped breakfast and made one last trip to the bathroom before  
      climbing into N230A. 
      
      The first flight was made with about 12  gallons of fuel. Stall speed 
      was recorded on the wingtip barograph. Dave  exhibited great piloting 
      skill as he delicately approached stall using the  maximum allowable 
      manifold pressure (14" Hg.). The Vmax speeds registered  on the 
      wingtip and cabin barograph were recorded and compared. 
      
      The  second flight was made with about 8 gallons of fuel, allowing 
      just enough  for VFR minimums. The rate of climb and Vmax part of 
      Dave's record derived  from the second flight. During those Vmax runs, 
      the propeller turned at  just over 2900 RPM, the limiting speed for a 
      constant speed prop.  
      
      TRIAVIATHON RECORDS
      The original Triaviathon record was set by John  Harmon in the 
      Lycoming IO-540 powered Harmon Rocket II on May 8, 1993. His  
      achievements were: 
      
      Top Speed 244.79 mph.
      Rate of Climb 3330.21  fpm.
      Stall Speed 56.36 mph.
      Score: 1316.45.
      Dave Anders' RV-4, on  September 27, 1997, achieved the following: 
      
      Top Speed 250.71  mph.
      Rate of Climb 3308.39 fpm.
      Stall Speed 44.78 mph.
      Score:  2381.24.
      
      This bettered John Harmon's previous record by over 1,000  points 
      and 'raised the bar' so high that future Triaviathon contestants  may 
      have to use aircraft that are 'purpose-built' for the event. As one  
      considers what kind of aircraft that would be, many very challenging  
      design questions arise. Would it have more span? a thinner wing?  
      retractable gear? full span Fowler flaps? 
      
      Dave's plans for future  modifications are a carbon fiber cowl, 
      elevator and rudder, along with a  fastback canopy to reduce flow 
      separation at the canopy trailing edges.  There is a clear possibility 
      that his record may be broken in the near  future by a woman aviator --
      his wife, Diane!! 
      
      CONCLUSIONS
      A  highly modified RV-4 has shattered the CAFE Triaviathon record. 
      David W.  Anders, pilot/manufacturer and Richard VanGrunsven, 
      designer, will have  their names inscribed upon the perpetual CAFE 
      Triaviathon Trophy and will  be officially recognized at the 1998 
      Oshkosh Convention for this new world  record. 
      
      It is noteworthy that the RV-4 aircraft is not purpose-built  for Tri- 
      aviathon competition; it remains a 2-place, aerobatic, efficient  
      cross-country travelling machine. The big lesson from this new record  
      is that keeping an aircraft's weight to a minimum has a magical 
      effect  upon its performance. Efficient structural engineering 
      deserves the same  attention as drag reduction and engine hot-rodding. 
      
      It was a pleasure  and a privilege to host Dave Anders and his RV-4 
      for its record attempt in  the CAFE Triaviathon. He should be 
      congratulated for his extraordinary  achievement in producing this 
      remarkable aircraft and its new world  record. 
      
      
        by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jan 2005 22:34:08 -0000
        by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2005 22:34:08 -0000
      From: "Rick Gray" <rgray67968@aol.com>
      List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:OhioValleyRVators-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [OhioValleyRVators] For the 'Speedster' in you!!
      
      
      Hi Gang,
      For those of you looking to go a little 'faster' in your RV....here's 
      a GOOD article on Dave Anders and his RV4....about 6mph FASTER than 
      John Harmon's HRII.
      
      I know at least ONE GUY that will read this :
      )....'eh Bullet??
      Rick at the Buffalo Farm - read on:
      
       RV-4 NEW CAFE TRIAVIATHON CHAMPION
      BY BRIEN A SEELEY AND THE CAFE BOARD 
               
       The CAFE Board was initially surprised to learn that an RV-4 builder 
      wanted an opportunity to break the Triaviathon record. We explained 
      to him that the CAFE Triaviathon record attempts were made by 
      invitation only. To qualify, an aircraft was required to exhibit 
      outstanding performance in top speed, climb and stall speed. The 
      typical candidates were aircraft with well over 300 horsepower. 
      We politely told the RV-4 builder that we would consider hosting his 
      record attempt if he would submit an explanation of how his aircraft 
      could realistically qualify as a contender. This was, after all, a 
      very difficult record to break. The original Triaviathon record, set 
      by John Harmon in the Harmon Rocket on May 8, 1993 had stood for over 
      4 years. Jeff Ackland's record attempt in March 1997 in the 500 hp 
      Legend, had missed the record by about 8%. Jeff had vowed to return 
      with more horsepower in the Legend. 
      
      The RV-4 builder was persistent. He submitted an im- pressive list of 
      his RV-4 performance modifications. That list, shown in the sidebar, 
      unquestionably qualified him as a true student of CAFE racing ideas. 
      But could an aircraft with only 200 hp seriously challenge the 
      record? We decided to let him have a shot at it. 
      
      When he arrived at the CAFE Foundation hangar, it became apparent 
      that this RV-4 builder meant business. He practiced dentistry in 
      Visalia, California as his day job. By night, however, he was a 
      passionate airplane builder. His name was Dave Anders. He seemed 
      deceptively calm and mild mannered for a man who was about to make a 
      world record attempt. The care and precision evident in all of his 
      many RV-4 modifications spoke volumes about the depth of his 
      commitment to this project. Several of these modifications merit 
      
      The polished aluminum finish on this aircraft, which revealed every 
      rivet head, showed superb metalwork. The elegantly simple and clean 
      design of the controls, hardware and interior must also have been a 
      factor in this aircraft winning so many workmanship awards. However, 
      besides per- fecting the aircraft's appearance, Dave also focused 
      intensely on drag reduction and increasing the engine's power output. 
      This passion for excellence in both cosmetics and per- formance 
      suggested he might surprise us with his score. 
      
      Preparing N230A for the record attempt would mean achieving an 
      optimized power to weight ratio. This meant removing as many non-
      essential parts of the aircraft as was legal within the FARs. At the 
      August 1997 Oshkosh Convention, when Dave made the decision to go 
      after the record, he began dieting. By the time he arrived at CAFE, 
      he had lost 23.5 pounds of body weight in 7 weeks! He figured that 
      every pound he lost would increase his rate of climb by 3 fpm. 
      
      The cooling system modifications include 34 square inches of total 
      inlet area through two machined, axi-symmetric inlets with internal 
      diffusers to a downdraft plenum. The cooling outlet is 24.7 square 
      inches and is augmented with exhaust flow. The fuel injector servo 
      throat was opened and its diffuser re-profiled, eliminating 3 of the 
      4 ram sensing tubes in the throat. Holes, radii and polished chamfers 
      were used everywhere possible to save weight. 
      
      TRIAVIATHON HISTORY
      The CAFE Triaviathon rewards the best combination of top speed, stall 
      speed and rate of climb. These three flight regimes represent an 
      aircraft's 'athleticism' and mutually conflict from an aircraft 
      design point of view. For example,designing for low stall speed 
      typically limits an aircraft's top speed, and top speed often demands 
      shorter wing spans which reduce climb performance. 
      
      The perpetual CAFE Triaviathon Trophy, created by the CAFE Board in 
      1993, symbolizes this conflict in aircraft design. On display in the 
      EAA Air Adventure Museum, it honors the aircraft designer and the 
      pilot who set records in this event. These records are also certified 
      by the National Aeronautics Association. 
      
      The Triaviathon scoring formula is: 
      
                28110625 x [Vmax  x  ROC]2
      Score =   [4100625 + Vso4]  x  109
      where Vso is stall speed, ROC is rate of climb and Vmax is the top 
      speed at 6000' pressure altitude. 
      
      The formula is complex because it was designed to proportionately 
      reward stall speeds between 35 and 70 mph. Stalls above 70 mph 
      receive a progressively increasing scoring penalty. Stalls below 35 
      mph do little to improve the score. 
      
      The measured rate of climb is converted to equal that for the 
      altitude window of 2500'-3500' in standard day atmosphere. 
      
      An initial, high speed calibration flight is performed while 
      recording airspeed and altitude on both a wingtip barograph and a 
      cabin barograph. The barograph, mounted on the wingtip, uses its own 
      calibrated pitot-static source while the cabin barograph is connected 
      to "T" fittings in the aircraft's pitot static system. The cal- 
      ibrated airspeeds (CAS) recorded on the wingtip barograph provide a 
      correction table for the cabin barograph recordings. 
      
      The wingtip barograph is removed for the second flight and the 
      maximum speed is recorded by the cabin barograph only. That speed is 
      then cor- rected to CAS using the airspeed correction table derived 
      from the wingtip mounted barograph. If the test flight shows that the 
      stock static system is accurate, the rate of climb performance of the 
      second flight, made without the wingtip barograph, can be used for 
      scoring. If the static system is not accurate, the ROC from the first 
      flight is used in the scoring. 
      
      PREPARATIONS
      Dave arrived at the CAFE hangar on Friday, September 26, 1997, with 
      his wife, Diane, and an entourage of well-wishers. The first task was 
      to drain all of the fuel from his aircraft and measure its empty 
      weight. N230A weighed just 975 lbs. empty including the IO-360 A1A 
      Lycoming engine and Hartzell constant speed propeller. Installation 
      of the barographs and camcorder was made by the CAFE team in 
      preparation for a record attempt at dawn. Everyone hoped for clear 
      skies and smooth air. 
      
      Meanwhile, Dave applied thin blue translucent Mylar tape to all gaps 
      and surface slits on the aircraft to reduce leakage drag. He 
      installed a very small "racing" tailwheel. Tiny, precisely-built 
      afterbody fairings for the fuel tank quick-drains and aileron hinges 
      (using scaled airfoil coordinates!) were installed in preparation for 
      the record run. 
      
      Dave arrived the next morning wearing very light clothing ("Hammer 
      pants") and very lightweight shoes like those used by wrestlers. He 
      skipped breakfast and made one last trip to the bathroom before 
      climbing into N230A. 
      
      The first flight was made with about 12 gallons of fuel. Stall speed 
      was recorded on the wingtip barograph. Dave exhibited great piloting 
      skill as he delicately approached stall using the maximum allowable 
      manifold pressure (14" Hg.). The Vmax speeds registered on the 
      wingtip and cabin barograph were recorded and compared. 
      
      The second flight was made with about 8 gallons of fuel, allowing 
      just enough for VFR minimums. The rate of climb and Vmax part of 
      Dave's record derived from the second flight. During those Vmax runs, 
      the propeller turned at just over 2900 RPM, the limiting speed for a 
      constant speed prop. 
      
      TRIAVIATHON RECORDS
      The original Triaviathon record was set by John Harmon in the 
      Lycoming IO-540 powered Harmon Rocket II on May 8, 1993. His 
      achievements were: 
      
      Top Speed 244.79 mph.
      Rate of Climb 3330.21 fpm.
      Stall Speed 56.36 mph.
      Score: 1316.45.
      Dave Anders' RV-4, on September 27, 1997, achieved the following: 
      
      Top Speed 250.71 mph.
      Rate of Climb 3308.39 fpm.
      Stall Speed 44.78 mph.
      Score: 2381.24.
      
      This bettered John Harmon's previous record by over 1,000 points 
      and 'raised the bar' so high that future Triaviathon contestants may 
      have to use aircraft that are 'purpose-built' for the event. As one 
      considers what kind of aircraft that would be, many very challenging 
      design questions arise. Would it have more span? a thinner wing? 
      retractable gear? full span Fowler flaps? 
      
      Dave's plans for future modifications are a carbon fiber cowl, 
      elevator and rudder, along with a fastback canopy to reduce flow 
      separation at the canopy trailing edges. There is a clear possibility 
      that his record may be broken in the near future by a woman aviator --
       his wife, Diane!! 
      
      CONCLUSIONS
      A highly modified RV-4 has shattered the CAFE Triaviathon record. 
      David W. Anders, pilot/manufacturer and Richard VanGrunsven, 
      designer, will have their names inscribed upon the perpetual CAFE 
      Triaviathon Trophy and will be officially recognized at the 1998 
      Oshkosh Convention for this new world record. 
      
      It is noteworthy that the RV-4 aircraft is not purpose-built for Tri- 
      aviathon competition; it remains a 2-place, aerobatic, efficient 
      cross-country travelling machine. The big lesson from this new record 
      is that keeping an aircraft's weight to a minimum has a magical 
      effect upon its performance. Efficient structural engineering 
      deserves the same attention as drag reduction and engine hot-rodding. 
      
      It was a pleasure and a privilege to host Dave Anders and his RV-4 
      for its record attempt in the CAFE Triaviathon. He should be 
      congratulated for his extraordinary achievement in producing this 
      remarkable aircraft and its new world record. 
      
      
      Give the gift of life to a sick child. 
      Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.'
      Click Here!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin | 
      
      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      
      Curtis, Larry and I made this trip last year ... a great start to the  spring 
      flying season.  It is only about 1 1/2 hours by RV ... lets have  more this 
      year representing SERV !!
      
      Len
      
      
      Just a heads up  gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      weather permitting.   This is what was in the RVator last year.  I'll 
      keep everyone  informed.
      
      WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total  aircraft this past 
      February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY.  
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      Big thanks to  Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      
      What started out as an informal UFO  (Ultimate Fly Out) by the Ohio 
      Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a  great kickoff for this years 
      fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists  are aware, I moved the event 
      from my shop to the airport two weeks prior  to the event.  At that 
      time, I made some phone calls to round up door  prizes.  The weather 
      forecast for the entire east coast promised  beautiful weather, this 
      time we were not disappointed.  
      
      The  first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and was at  
      7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee and free  
      donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of RVs coming from  
      all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue of "flight of four  
      inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of two following flight of  
      two". Give credit to the pilots, at no time did I ever witness  
      anything remotely compromising.  I took care of parking RVs on the  
      ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving  taxi 
      space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care of  
      directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were allowed to park  
      there own airplanes as they wished.  The taxiway is nearly 1500'  
      long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip nearly to  
      the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to only allow RVs onto  
      the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for TeamRV and the Ohio Valley  
      RVators as they promised to put on three different formation  
      flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a  
      flight of 9, as did Ohio Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had  
      either 17 or 18 arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs  
      which included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN  
      VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 from  
      SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in along with a  
      two from Florida, west from MO and from north east of DC.  At noon I  
      took a little break and started counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had  
      already left by then so I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86  
      RVs and 107 total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after  
      noon but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch,  
      formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a  
      little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.    
      
      After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings TeamRV,  
      as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put on individual  
      formation flight demonstrations, which would make the most harden  
      envious.  Icing on the cake came form a final 8 ship formation  
      showcase as a joint formation flight demonstration made up of both  
      teams. A reporter and photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning  
      photographs now grace the front page of the local Sunday  paper.
      http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      
      Door  prizes were given out from the following supporters:  Van's 
      Aircraft,  Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere Map, EZ Pilot 
      Auto Pilot,  engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous post light system, 
      Experimentalair.com  CAD designed and water jet cut instrument panel, 
      Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids,  Trutrack autopilot discounts from 
      aircraftextras.com, Avery and  Cleaveland. 
      
      
      Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next  year!!
      
      
      Dana Overall 
      Richmond, KY i39
      RV-7 slider, Imron  black, "Black Magic" 
      Finish kit 
      13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.  
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg  
      
      
        by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
        by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
      From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
      List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      
      
      Just a heads up gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      weather permitting.  This is what was in the RVator last year.  I'll 
      keep everyone informed.
      
      WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total aircraft this past 
      February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY. 
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      Big thanks to Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      
      What started out as an informal UFO (Ultimate Fly Out) by the Ohio 
      Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a great kickoff for this years 
      fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists are aware, I moved the event 
      from my shop to the airport two weeks prior to the event.  At that 
      time, I made some phone calls to round up door prizes.  The weather 
      forecast for the entire east coast promised beautiful weather, this 
      time we were not disappointed.  
      
      The first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and was at 
      7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee and free 
      donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of RVs coming from 
      all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue of "flight of four 
      inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of two following flight of 
      two". Give credit to the pilots, at no time did I ever witness 
      anything remotely compromising.  I took care of parking RVs on the 
      ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving taxi 
      space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care of 
      directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were allowed to park 
      there own airplanes as they wished.  The taxiway is nearly 1500' 
      long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip nearly to 
      the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to only allow RVs onto 
      the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for TeamRV and the Ohio Valley 
      RVators as they promised to put on three different formation 
      flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a 
      flight of 9, as did Ohio Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had 
      either 17 or 18 arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs 
      which included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN 
      VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 from 
      SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in along with a 
      two from Florida, west from MO and from north east of DC.  At noon I 
      took a little break and started counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had 
      already left by then so I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86 
      RVs and 107 total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after 
      noon but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch, 
      formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a 
      little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.   
      
      After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings TeamRV, 
      as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put on individual 
      formation flight demonstrations, which would make the most harden 
      envious.  Icing on the cake came form a final 8 ship formation 
      showcase as a joint formation flight demonstration made up of both 
      teams. A reporter and photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning 
      photographs now grace the front page of the local Sunday paper.
      http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      
      Door prizes were given out from the following supporters:  Van's 
      Aircraft, Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere Map, EZ Pilot 
      Auto Pilot, engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous post light system, 
      Experimentalair.com CAD designed and water jet cut instrument panel, 
      Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids, Trutrack autopilot discounts from 
      aircraftextras.com, Avery and Cleaveland. 
      
      
      Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next year!!
      
      
      Dana Overall 
      Richmond, KY i39
      RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 
      Finish kit 
      13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. 
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg 
      
      
      Help save the life of a child.  Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's
      'Thanks & Giving.'
      Click Here!
      
      
      <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mid-AtlRVwing/
      
      <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
          Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      
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| Subject:  | Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set | 
      
      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      No prob!  Follow the link for more info and registration.
      
      http://aeroelectric.com/seminars/ApexNC.html
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: ATRdriver@aol.com [mailto:ATRdriver@aol.com] 
      > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:25 PM
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: Apex (Raleigh) NC Seminar Date Set
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: ATRdriver@aol.com
      > 
      > 
      > Sorry...this email was meant to go to Terry Gardner, not the 
      > whole  group!
      > 
      > In a message dated 1/21/2005 2:50:31 P.M. Eastern Standard 
      > Time, ATRdriver@aol.com writes:
      > 
      > -->  RVSouthEast-List message posted by: ATRdriver@aol.com
      > 
      > Hi  Terry,
      > 
      > My name is Terry!  I saw the email for the June 4-5  
      > Aeroelectric  Workshop in Apex, NC and may be interested!  I 
      > am  planning to build an  RV-8, although I don't think I will 
      > be able to  start for a couple of years  because I don't have 
      > workshop space  presently.  I already have Bob's  
      > Aeroelectric manual and believe the course would be 
      > beneficial.  I wouldn't  be able  commit to the course 
      > until about the middle of February when I could   confirm a change of 
      > vacation.  
      > 
      > Any further info that you have  would certainly be appreciated.
      > 
      > Regards,
      > 
      > Terry Swindle
      > Boca  Raton,  FL
      > 
      > 
      > =========
      > Matronics Forums.
      > =========
      > =========
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin | 
      
      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
      
      Yup this was a good outing. No ... a GREAT outing. Everything just clicked
      weather-wise so a lot of people showed up.
      
      I would think we could more than double last year's "SERV" attendance. {:-)
      
      If we can get a dozen on short notice to Stanton's, we should be able to
      duplicate that for this trip.
      
      Whaddaya think, Len, Bill, Larry, et. al. ?????
      
      
      James
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Lenleg@aol.com
      Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      
      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      
      Curtis, Larry and I made this trip last year ... a great start to the
      spring 
      flying season.  It is only about 1 1/2 hours by RV ... lets have  more this 
      year representing SERV !!
      
      Len
      
      
      Just a heads up  gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      weather permitting.   This is what was in the RVator last year.  I'll 
      keep everyone  informed.
      
      WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total  aircraft this past 
      February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY.  
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      Big thanks to  Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      
      What started out as an informal UFO  (Ultimate Fly Out) by the Ohio 
      Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a  great kickoff for this years 
      fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists  are aware, I moved the event 
      from my shop to the airport two weeks prior  to the event.  At that 
      time, I made some phone calls to round up door  prizes.  The weather 
      forecast for the entire east coast promised  beautiful weather, this 
      time we were not disappointed.  
      
      The  first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and was at  
      7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee and free  
      donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of RVs coming from  
      all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue of "flight of four  
      inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of two following flight of  
      two". Give credit to the pilots, at no time did I ever witness  
      anything remotely compromising.  I took care of parking RVs on the  
      ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving  taxi 
      space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care of  
      directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were allowed to park  
      there own airplanes as they wished.  The taxiway is nearly 1500'  
      long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip nearly to  
      the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to only allow RVs onto  
      the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for TeamRV and the Ohio Valley  
      RVators as they promised to put on three different formation  
      flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a  
      flight of 9, as did Ohio Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had  
      either 17 or 18 arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs  
      which included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN  
      VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 from  
      SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in along with a  
      two from Florida, west from MO and from north east of DC.  At noon I  
      took a little break and started counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had  
      already left by then so I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86  
      RVs and 107 total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after  
      noon but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch,  
      formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a  
      little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.    
      
      After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings TeamRV,  
      as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put on individual  
      formation flight demonstrations, which would make the most harden  
      envious.  Icing on the cake came form a final 8 ship formation  
      showcase as a joint formation flight demonstration made up of both  
      teams. A reporter and photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning  
      photographs now grace the front page of the local Sunday  paper.
      http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      
      Door  prizes were given out from the following supporters:  Van's 
      Aircraft,  Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere Map, EZ Pilot 
      Auto Pilot,  engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous post light system, 
      Experimentalair.com  CAD designed and water jet cut instrument panel, 
      Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids,  Trutrack autopilot discounts from 
      aircraftextras.com, Avery and  Cleaveland. 
      
      
      Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next  year!!
      
      
      Dana Overall 
      Richmond, KY i39
      RV-7 slider, Imron  black, "Black Magic" 
      Finish kit 
      13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.  
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg  
      
      
        by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
        by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
      From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
      List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      
      
      Just a heads up gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      weather permitting.  This is what was in the RVator last year.  I'll 
      keep everyone informed.
      
      WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total aircraft this past 
      February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY. 
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      Big thanks to Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      
      What started out as an informal UFO (Ultimate Fly Out) by the Ohio 
      Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a great kickoff for this years 
      fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists are aware, I moved the event 
      from my shop to the airport two weeks prior to the event.  At that 
      time, I made some phone calls to round up door prizes.  The weather 
      forecast for the entire east coast promised beautiful weather, this 
      time we were not disappointed.  
      
      The first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and was at 
      7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee and free 
      donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of RVs coming from 
      all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue of "flight of four 
      inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of two following flight of 
      two". Give credit to the pilots, at no time did I ever witness 
      anything remotely compromising.  I took care of parking RVs on the 
      ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving taxi 
      space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care of 
      directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were allowed to park 
      there own airplanes as they wished.  The taxiway is nearly 1500' 
      long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip nearly to 
      the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to only allow RVs onto 
      the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for TeamRV and the Ohio Valley 
      RVators as they promised to put on three different formation 
      flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a 
      flight of 9, as did Ohio Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had 
      either 17 or 18 arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs 
      which included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN 
      VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 from 
      SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in along with a 
      two from Florida, west from MO and from north east of DC.  At noon I 
      took a little break and started counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had 
      already left by then so I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86 
      RVs and 107 total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after 
      noon but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch, 
      formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a 
      little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.   
      
      After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings TeamRV, 
      as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put on individual 
      formation flight demonstrations, which would make the most harden 
      envious.  Icing on the cake came form a final 8 ship formation 
      showcase as a joint formation flight demonstration made up of both 
      teams. A reporter and photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning 
      photographs now grace the front page of the local Sunday paper.
      http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      
      Door prizes were given out from the following supporters:  Van's 
      Aircraft, Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere Map, EZ Pilot 
      Auto Pilot, engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous post light system, 
      Experimentalair.com CAD designed and water jet cut instrument panel, 
      Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids, Trutrack autopilot discounts from 
      aircraftextras.com, Avery and Cleaveland. 
      
      
      Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next year!!
      
      
      Dana Overall 
      Richmond, KY i39
      RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 
      Finish kit 
      13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. 
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg 
      
      
      Help save the life of a child.  Support St. Jude Children's Research
      Hospital's
      'Thanks & Giving.'
      Click Here!
      
      
      <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mid-AtlRVwing/
      
      <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
          Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      
      
      In a message dated 1/21/2005 5:03:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      james@nextupventures.com writes:
      
      If we  can get a dozen on short notice to Stanton's, we should be able  to
      duplicate that for this trip.
      
      Whaddaya think, Len, Bill, Larry,  et. al. ?????
      
      
      I am in for sure ... besides you have a challenge then !!!
      
      Len
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
      
      its on my calender, wx permitting, maybe we can
      impress the pros.  bill
      --- "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> wrote:
      
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E.
      > Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
      > 
      > Yup this was a good outing. No ... a GREAT outing.
      > Everything just clicked
      > weather-wise so a lot of people showed up.
      > 
      > I would think we could more than double last year's
      > "SERV" attendance. {:-)
      > 
      > If we can get a dozen on short notice to Stanton's,
      > we should be able to
      > duplicate that for this trip.
      > 
      > Whaddaya think, Len, Bill, Larry, et. al. ?????
      > 
      > 
      > James
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]
      > On Behalf Of
      > Lenleg@aol.com
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing]
      > Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
      > Lenleg@aol.com
      > 
      > Curtis, Larry and I made this trip last year ... a
      > great start to the
      > spring 
      > flying season.  It is only about 1 1/2 hours by RV
      > ... lets have  more this 
      > year representing SERV !!
      > 
      > Len
      > 
      > 
      > Just a heads up  gang, this years date is set as
      > February 26th. 
      > weather permitting.   This is what was in the RVator
      > last year.  I'll 
      > keep everyone  informed.
      > 
      > WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total 
      > aircraft this past 
      > February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY.  
      >
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      > Big thanks to  Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      > 
      > What started out as an informal UFO  (Ultimate Fly
      > Out) by the Ohio 
      > Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a  great
      > kickoff for this years 
      > fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists  are aware,
      > I moved the event 
      > from my shop to the airport two weeks prior  to the
      > event.  At that 
      > time, I made some phone calls to round up door 
      > prizes.  The weather 
      > forecast for the entire east coast promised 
      > beautiful weather, this 
      > time we were not disappointed.  
      > 
      > The  first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana
      > border and was at  
      > 7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had
      > coffee and free  
      > donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of
      > RVs coming from  
      > all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue of
      > "flight of four  
      > inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of two
      > following flight of  
      > two". Give credit to the pilots, at no time did I
      > ever witness  
      > anything remotely compromising.  I took care of
      > parking RVs on the  
      > ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked,
      > leaving  taxi 
      > space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend
      > took care of  
      > directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were
      > allowed to park  
      > there own airplanes as they wished.  The taxiway is
      > nearly 1500'  
      > long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to
      > wingtip nearly to  
      > the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to
      > only allow RVs onto  
      > the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for TeamRV and
      > the Ohio Valley  
      > RVators as they promised to put on three different
      > formation  
      > flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike Stewart arrived from
      > Atlanta with a  
      > flight of 9, as did Ohio Valley, led by Rick Gray. 
      > Ohio Valley had  
      > either 17 or 18 arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list
      > with 20 RVs  
      > which included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12
      > represented the TN  
      > VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along
      > with 3 from  
      > SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it
      > in along with a  
      > two from Florida, west from MO and from north east
      > of DC.  At noon I  
      > took a little break and started counting airplanes. 
      > A couple RVs had  
      > already left by then so I added them to the count. 
      > At noon we had 86  
      > RVs and 107 total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs
      > arrived after  
      > noon but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy
      > with lunch,  
      > formation flying and the door prizes.  I also
      > squeezed in a  
      > little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.  
      >  
      > 
      > After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free
      > Hooters wings TeamRV,  
      > as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put
      > on individual  
      > formation flight demonstrations, which would make
      > the most harden  
      > envious.  Icing on the cake came form a final 8 ship
      > formation  
      > showcase as a joint formation flight demonstration
      > made up of both  
      > teams. A reporter and photographer went up with
      > TeamRV.  Stunning  
      > photographs now grace the front page of the local
      > Sunday  paper.
      >
      http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      > 
      > Door  prizes were given out from the following
      > supporters:  Van's 
      > Aircraft,  Builders Bookstore, Control Vision
      > AnyWhere Map, EZ Pilot 
      > Auto Pilot,  engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous post
      > light system, 
      > Experimentalair.com  CAD designed and water jet cut
      > instrument panel, 
      > Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids,  Trutrack autopilot
      > discounts from 
      > aircraftextras.com, Avery and  Cleaveland. 
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next 
      > year!!
      > 
      > 
      > Dana Overall 
      > Richmond, KY i39
      > RV-7 slider, Imron  black, "Black Magic" 
      > Finish kit 
      > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.  
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg  
      > 
      > 
      >   by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2005
      > 11:54:08 -0000
      >   by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005
      > 11:54:08 -0000
      > To: Mid-AtlRVwing@yahoogroups.com
      > From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
      > List-Unsubscribe:
      > <mailto:Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:53:56 -0000
      > Subject: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      > 
      > 
      > Just a heads up gang, this years date is set as
      > February 26th. 
      > weather permitting.  This is what was in the RVator
      > last year.  I'll 
      > keep everyone informed.
      > 
      > WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total
      > aircraft this past 
      > February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY. 
      >
      http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      > Big thanks to Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      > 
      > What started out as an informal UFO (Ultimate Fly
      > Out) by the Ohio 
      > Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a great
      > kickoff for this years 
      > fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists are aware, I
      > moved the event 
      > from my shop to the airport two weeks prior to the
      > event.  At that 
      > time, I made some phone calls to round up door
      > prizes. 
      === message truncated ===
      
      
                      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      I'm in.
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: James E. Clark [mailto:james@nextupventures.com] 
      > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:01 PM
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, 
      > KY i39 RV flyin
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" 
      > --> <james@nextupventures.com>
      > 
      > Yup this was a good outing. No ... a GREAT outing. Everything 
      > just clicked weather-wise so a lot of people showed up.
      > 
      > I would think we could more than double last year's "SERV" 
      > attendance. {:-)
      > 
      > If we can get a dozen on short notice to Stanton's, we should 
      > be able to duplicate that for this trip.
      > 
      > Whaddaya think, Len, Bill, Larry, et. al. ?????
      > 
      > 
      > James
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On 
      > Behalf Of Lenleg@aol.com
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY 
      > i39 RV flyin
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
      > 
      > Curtis, Larry and I made this trip last year ... a great 
      > start to the spring flying season.  It is only about 1 1/2 
      > hours by RV ... lets have  more this year representing SERV !!
      > 
      > Len
      > 
      > 
      > Just a heads up  gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      > weather permitting.   This is what was in the RVator last year.  I'll 
      > keep everyone  informed.
      > 
      > WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total  aircraft 
      > this past February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY.  
      > http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      > Big thanks to  Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      > 
      > What started out as an informal UFO  (Ultimate Fly Out) by 
      > the Ohio Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a  great 
      > kickoff for this years fly-in season.  As most on the RV 
      > lists  are aware, I moved the event from my shop to the 
      > airport two weeks prior  to the event.  At that time, I made 
      > some phone calls to round up door  prizes.  The weather 
      > forecast for the entire east coast promised  beautiful 
      > weather, this time we were not disappointed.  
      > 
      > The  first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and 
      > was at 7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee 
      > and free donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of 
      > RVs coming from all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue 
      > of "flight of four inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of 
      > two following flight of two". Give credit to the pilots, at 
      > no time did I ever witness anything remotely compromising.  I 
      > took care of parking RVs on the  
      > ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving  taxi 
      > space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care 
      > of directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were 
      > allowed to park there own airplanes as they wished.  The 
      > taxiway is nearly 1500'  
      > long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip 
      > nearly to the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to 
      > only allow RVs onto the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for 
      > TeamRV and the Ohio Valley RVators as they promised to put on 
      > three different formation flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike 
      > Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a flight of 9, as did Ohio 
      > Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had either 17 or 18 
      > arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs which 
      > included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN 
      > VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 
      > from SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in 
      > along with a two from Florida, west from MO and from north 
      > east of DC.  At noon I took a little break and started 
      > counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had already left by then so 
      > I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86 RVs and 107 
      > total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after noon 
      > but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch, 
      > formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a  
      > little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.    
      > 
      > After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings 
      > TeamRV, as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put 
      > on individual formation flight demonstrations, which would 
      > make the most harden envious.  Icing on the cake came form a 
      > final 8 ship formation showcase as a joint formation flight 
      > demonstration made up of both teams. A reporter and 
      > photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning photographs now 
      > grace the front page of the local Sunday  paper.
      > http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      > 
      > Door  prizes were given out from the following supporters:  
      > Van's Aircraft,  Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere 
      > Map, EZ Pilot Auto Pilot,  engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous 
      > post light system, Experimentalair.com  CAD designed and 
      > water jet cut instrument panel, Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids,  
      > Trutrack autopilot discounts from aircraftextras.com, Avery 
      > and  Cleaveland. 
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next  year!!
      > 
      > 
      > Dana Overall
      > Richmond, KY i39
      > RV-7 slider, Imron  black, "Black Magic" 
      > Finish kit
      > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.  
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg  
      > 
      > 
      >   by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
      >   by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2005 11:54:08 -0000
      > To: Mid-AtlRVwing@yahoogroups.com
      > From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
      > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:Mid-AtlRVwing-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:53:56 -0000
      > Subject: [Mid-AtlRVwing] Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin
      > 
      > 
      > Just a heads up gang, this years date is set as February 26th. 
      > weather permitting.  This is what was in the RVator last 
      > year.  I'll keep everyone informed.
      > 
      > WOW, what can I say?  86+ RVs and over 107 total aircraft 
      > this past February 28th at i39 Richmond, KY. 
      > http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
      > Big thanks to Rick Schwandt for the pictures. 
      > 
      > What started out as an informal UFO (Ultimate Fly Out) by the 
      > Ohio Valley RVators to my shop, turned into a great kickoff 
      > for this years fly-in season.  As most on the RV lists are 
      > aware, I moved the event from my shop to the airport two 
      > weeks prior to the event.  At that time, I made some phone 
      > calls to round up door prizes.  The weather forecast for the 
      > entire east coast promised beautiful weather, this time we 
      > were not disappointed.  
      > 
      > The first arrival was from the Michigan, Indiana border and 
      > was at 7:40AM.  By this time the local EAA chapter had coffee 
      > and free donuts.  Shortly thereafter, the pattern was full of 
      > RVs coming from all directions.  It was a continuous dialogue 
      > of "flight of four inbound with traffic in sight", "flight of 
      > two following flight of two". Give credit to the pilots, at 
      > no time did I ever witness anything remotely compromising.  I 
      > took care of parking RVs on the 
      > ramp until it filled.   The ramp was double stacked, leaving taxi 
      > space between rows.  My youngest son and a friend took care 
      > of directing arrivals on the taxiway where pilots were 
      > allowed to park there own airplanes as they wished.  The 
      > taxiway is nearly 1500' 
      > long.  We had RVs and certified, parked wingtip to wingtip 
      > nearly to the end of the taxiway.  By the way, we tried to 
      > only allow RVs onto the ramp.  Reserve parking was saved for 
      > TeamRV and the Ohio Valley RVators as they promised to put on 
      > three different formation flights.  TeamRV, led by Mike 
      > Stewart arrived from Atlanta with a flight of 9, as did Ohio 
      > Valley, led by Rick Gray.  Ohio Valley had either 17 or 18 
      > arrivals.  Indy Wing topped the list with 20 RVs which 
      > included 2 fire breathing Super 8s.  12 represented the TN 
      > VALLEY BUILDER GROUP; the Palmetto Wing had 3 along with 3 
      > from SERV.  I believe the group from Pontiac, MI made it in 
      > along with a two from Florida, west from MO and from north 
      > east of DC.  At noon I took a little break and started 
      > counting airplanes.  A couple RVs had already left by then so 
      > I added them to the count.  At noon we had 86 RVs and 107 
      > total aircraft for the fly-in.  More RVs arrived after noon 
      > but I did not try and keep count, as I was busy with lunch, 
      > formation flying and the door prizes.  I also squeezed in a 
      > little "shopping" time walking and looking at RVs.   
      > 
      > After a lunch of hamburgers, hotdogs and free Hooters wings 
      > TeamRV, as a flight 5 and Ohio Valley, as a flight of 5 put 
      > on individual formation flight demonstrations, which would 
      > make the most harden envious.  Icing on the cake came form a 
      > final 8 ship formation showcase as a joint formation flight 
      > demonstration made up of both teams. A reporter and 
      > photographer went up with TeamRV.  Stunning photographs now 
      > grace the front page of the local Sunday paper.
      > http://www.richmondregister.com/articles/2004/02/29/news/news01.txt
      > 
      > Door prizes were given out from the following supporters:  
      > Van's Aircraft, Builders Bookstore, Control Vision AnyWhere 
      > Map, EZ Pilot Auto Pilot, engalt.com/aviation.htm fabulous 
      > post light system, Experimentalair.com CAD designed and water 
      > jet cut instrument panel, Kitlog Pro, Grand Rapids, Trutrack 
      > autopilot discounts from aircraftextras.com, Avery and Cleaveland. 
      > 
      > 
      > Thanks to all who attended and yes, same time next year!!
      > 
      > 
      > Dana Overall
      > Richmond, KY i39
      > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 
      > Finish kit
      > 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. 
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg
      > http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg 
      > 
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