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1. 06:13 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: NMB (Lenleg@aol.com)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - (larry@bowenaero.com)
4. 10:34 AM - Re: NMB (N184FN@aol.com)
5. 10:44 AM - Re: NMB (Robbie Walker)
6. 12:09 PM - competition for Airnav? (Charlie England)
7. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 (Steve Glasgow)
8. 06:14 PM - Re: NMB (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 |
09:12:57 AM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but
agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all
the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference
it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full nose
up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't
noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim
back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind and
throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it
began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that.
Lessons learned:
1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without
checking trim afterward
2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious
quickly at higher speeds
3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold
the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity
of the control system)
4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that
as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to keep
the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for example)
5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location
of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in this
case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls.
If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out
Ciao y'all,
Lee...
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 3/13/05 9:22:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
robbie@atlanticpkg.com writes:
I'm now even more certain that a Vans is for me and thanks to Len
Legett, I now know that I will fit in an RV-8. Still need to diet
though! That's like a free gross weight increase!
I now have a new mission in life: James has yet to taste *MY* BBQ, which
really *IS* the best. Slow cooked over charcoal for 12 hours. Juicy,
tender and savory beyond belief. One day, you *will* have the pleasure.
Robbie & Greta Walker
It was a pleasure to meet you guys ... hope you get started on the RV soon.
I would be more than happy to help anytime I am in Fairmont visiting my
parents.
As for the diet ... we could all use those !!! When you first sit in the -8
you have the feeling of being very close to the panel but it only takes a
couple of hours to get use to it.
Be careful on the BBQ .... James is an expert !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
334 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - |
03/13/05
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: larry@bowenaero.com
I heard that radio call, but wasn't sure who it was. Glad it worked out ok!
-LB
Quoting lee.logan@gulfstream.com:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
> Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but
> agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all
> the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference
> it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full nose
> up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't
> noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim
> back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind and
> throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it
> began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that.
>
> Lessons learned:
>
> 1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without
> checking trim afterward
> 2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious
> quickly at higher speeds
> 3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold
> the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity
> of the control system)
> 4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that
> as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to keep
> the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for example)
> 5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location
> of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in this
> case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls.
> If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out
>
> Ciao y'all,
>
>
> Lee...
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
How can I get up with Robbie Walker? W8
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker <robbie@atlanticpkg.com>
robbiew@atlanticpkg.com
800-672-1022 x257
910-653-6002 home
On Mar 14, 2005, at 1:33 PM, N184FN@aol.com wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com
>
> How can I get up with Robbie Walker? W8
>
>
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| Subject: | competition for Airnav? |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
http://www.xcpilot.com/airport/
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Glad it all worked out. Great meeting you and hope to see you at other
events.
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
----- Original Message -----
From: <lee.logan@gulfstream.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
> Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but
> agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all
> the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference
> it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full
> nose
> up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't
> noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim
> back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind
> and
> throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it
> began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that.
>
> Lessons learned:
>
> 1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without
> checking trim afterward
> 2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious
> quickly at higher speeds
> 3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold
> the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity
> of the control system)
> 4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that
> as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to
> keep
> the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for
> example)
> 5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location
> of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in
> this
> case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls.
> If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out
>
> Ciao y'all,
>
>
> Lee...
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 3/13/05 9:22:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>robbie@atlanticpkg.com writes:
>
>I'm now even more certain that a Vans is for me and thanks to Len
>Legett, I now know that I will fit in an RV-8. Still need to diet
>though! That's like a free gross weight increase!
>
>I now have a new mission in life: James has yet to taste *MY* BBQ, which
>really *IS* the best. Slow cooked over charcoal for 12 hours. Juicy,
>tender and savory beyond belief. One day, you *will* have the pleasure.
>
>Robbie & Greta Walker
>
>
>It was a pleasure to meet you guys ... hope you get started on the RV soon.
>I would be more than happy to help anytime I am in Fairmont visiting my
>parents.
>
>As for the diet ... we could all use those !!! When you first sit in the -8
>you have the feeling of being very close to the panel but it only takes a
>couple of hours to get use to it.
>
>Be careful on the BBQ .... James is an expert !!!
>
>Len Leggette, RV-8A
>Greensboro, N.C. N910LL
>334 hrs
>
Want to get a feel for how far away that -8 panel really is? Come sit in
my -4. ;-)
Charlie
flying -4, -7 wings
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