---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/14/05: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:13 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com) 2. 07:25 AM - Re: NMB (Lenleg@aol.com) 3. 07:39 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - (larry@bowenaero.com) 4. 10:34 AM - Re: NMB (N184FN@aol.com) 5. 10:44 AM - Re: NMB (Robbie Walker) 6. 12:09 PM - competition for Airnav? (Charlie England) 7. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 (Steve Glasgow) 8. 06:14 PM - Re: NMB (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:21 AM PST US Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 From: lee.logan@gulfstream.com 09:12:57 AM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full nose up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind and throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that. Lessons learned: 1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without checking trim afterward 2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious quickly at higher speeds 3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity of the control system) 4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to keep the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for example) 5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in this case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls. If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out Ciao y'all, Lee... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:39 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: NMB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 3/13/05 9:22:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, robbie@atlanticpkg.com writes: I'm now even more certain that a Vans is for me and thanks to Len Legett, I now know that I will fit in an RV-8. Still need to diet though! That's like a free gross weight increase! I now have a new mission in life: James has yet to taste *MY* BBQ, which really *IS* the best. Slow cooked over charcoal for 12 hours. Juicy, tender and savory beyond belief. One day, you *will* have the pleasure. Robbie & Greta Walker It was a pleasure to meet you guys ... hope you get started on the RV soon. I would be more than happy to help anytime I am in Fairmont visiting my parents. As for the diet ... we could all use those !!! When you first sit in the -8 you have the feeling of being very close to the panel but it only takes a couple of hours to get use to it. Be careful on the BBQ .... James is an expert !!! Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, N.C. N910LL 334 hrs ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:43 AM PST US From: larry@bowenaero.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: larry@bowenaero.com I heard that radio call, but wasn't sure who it was. Glad it worked out ok! -LB Quoting lee.logan@gulfstream.com: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com > > Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but > agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all > the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference > it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full nose > up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't > noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim > back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind and > throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it > began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that. > > Lessons learned: > > 1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without > checking trim afterward > 2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious > quickly at higher speeds > 3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold > the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity > of the control system) > 4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that > as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to keep > the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for example) > 5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location > of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in this > case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls. > If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out > > Ciao y'all, > > > Lee... > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:01 AM PST US From: N184FN@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: NMB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com How can I get up with Robbie Walker? W8 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:47 AM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: NMB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker robbiew@atlanticpkg.com 800-672-1022 x257 910-653-6002 home On Mar 14, 2005, at 1:33 PM, N184FN@aol.com wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com > > How can I get up with Robbie Walker? W8 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:01 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: RVSouthEast-List: competition for Airnav? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England http://www.xcpilot.com/airport/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:31 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Glad it all worked out. Great meeting you and hope to see you at other events. Steve Glasgow N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 704-362-0005 704-281-7884 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 03/13/05 > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com > > Great fun at Grand Strand, everyone! Really enjoyed the flight up, but > agree the flight back was a bit raggedy with headwinds and turbulence all > the way. Also, I sat my VFR Flight Guide on top of the stick to reference > it for a couple of things just before takeoff and managed to trim full > nose > up without knowing it! That's a first (for me, anyway)! Wasn't > noticeable on takeoff but it sure was passing 80-90 mph. It wouldn't trim > back down (at least not right away) so I called tower to enter downwind > and > throttled back to hold 80. By the time I got to the abeam position, it > began to respond to the trim button and all was well after that. > > Lessons learned: > > 1. Don't place reading materials on top of stick, at least not without > checking trim afterward > 2. Full nose up trim is controllable below 80-90 mph but it gets serious > quickly at higher speeds > 3. The trim system is very powerful, it takes significant pressure to hold > the nose at higher speeds (thought briefly about the structural integrity > of the control system) > 4. Dropping the flaps should have helped, but I didn't have to go to that > as I was able to safely throttle back (might be helpful if you have to > keep > the power up for other reasons: terrain or obstacle clearance, for > example) > 5. The electric trim on mine runs very fast. I've memorized the location > of the trim c/b and am "spring loaded" to pull it in emergency, but in > this > case there was no warning because there was no airflow over the controls. > If you don't know exactly where yours is, you might want to check that out > > Ciao y'all, > > > Lee... > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:03 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: NMB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England Lenleg@aol.com wrote: >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > >In a message dated 3/13/05 9:22:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >robbie@atlanticpkg.com writes: > >I'm now even more certain that a Vans is for me and thanks to Len >Legett, I now know that I will fit in an RV-8. Still need to diet >though! That's like a free gross weight increase! > >I now have a new mission in life: James has yet to taste *MY* BBQ, which >really *IS* the best. Slow cooked over charcoal for 12 hours. Juicy, >tender and savory beyond belief. One day, you *will* have the pleasure. > >Robbie & Greta Walker > > >It was a pleasure to meet you guys ... hope you get started on the RV soon. >I would be more than happy to help anytime I am in Fairmont visiting my >parents. > >As for the diet ... we could all use those !!! When you first sit in the -8 >you have the feeling of being very close to the panel but it only takes a >couple of hours to get use to it. > >Be careful on the BBQ .... James is an expert !!! > >Len Leggette, RV-8A >Greensboro, N.C. N910LL >334 hrs > Want to get a feel for how far away that -8 panel really is? Come sit in my -4. ;-) Charlie flying -4, -7 wings