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1. 06:22 AM - Re: LAL/SNF (Mike.Munn@fluor.com)
2. 08:55 AM - Quick poll: Sensenich FP prop users (sportav8r@aol.com)
3. 10:34 AM - Formation Stuff! (Steve Glasgow)
4. 11:53 AM - Re: Formation Stuff! (bill crothers)
5. 12:06 PM - Re: Formation Stuff! (Larry Bowen)
6. 12:47 PM - Re: Formation Stuff! (James E. Clark)
7. 03:42 PM - Fw: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout (Lenleg@aol.com)
8. 04:51 PM - Re: Fw: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout (Ed Anderson)
9. 05:06 PM - Re: Formation Stuff! (RGray67968@aol.com)
10. 06:18 PM - Re: Formation Stuff! (Steve Glasgow)
11. 06:21 PM - Re: Formation Stuff! (Steve Glasgow)
12. 06:46 PM - Re: Fw: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout (Steve Glasgow)
13. 06:53 PM - Re: Fw: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout (Radomir Zaric)
14. 06:57 PM - Re: Fw: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout (Steve Glasgow)
15. 08:28 PM - FW: Ocracoke (Larry Bowen)
16. 08:45 PM - Re: FW: Ocracoke ()
17. 08:49 PM - Re: FW: Ocracoke (Larry Bowen)
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(Release 5.0.13a |April 8, 2004) at 03/17/2005 06:03:46 AM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com
Len,
Just hold on to it. I do not need it until SNF. I have been chasing down
an oil leak on the 170, finally found it and hope to be flying next weekend
to Ocracoke if it is still on.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike ... I have that other hat for you ... had it in my plane for the past
several weeks thinking I would see you at one of the events ... maybe I
need to
just mail it ???
Len
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| Subject: | Quick poll: Sensenich FP prop users |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Hey:
going to Lancaster PA tomorrow for a repitch and dynamic balance of my 72CM series
fixed pitch Sensenich. Was wondering what pitch has served everyone best
on the 6 or 6A airframe with 160 hp?
I started out with a 150 hp Lyc and ordered the 76 inch pitch prop. This worked
okay until I upped the ponies to 160; now I hit redline far too easily in cruise.
I get 2230 static rpm at my 1000 ft MSL home strip and can exceed 2600
rpm in level flight at 8000 feet.
IIRC, Ed Z at Sensenich once looked over some in-flight numbers I collected and
recommended adding 2-3 inches of pitch, but it was a long while back. Since
I only want to drop this $450 once :-) I thought I'd poll the field and see what
pitch was working for others.
I'm sure anything we do tomorrow will be an improvement, at the expense of climb
performance, but I don't want to over- or under-do it. I'm looking to keep
at least 2100 rpm static and be able to firewall it at 8000 level without breaking
2600 rpm redline. I know a lot depends on actual airframe drag, rigging,
and actual engine output. Still, asking stuff liike this is free, and fun :-)
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I am working on a Formation Manual of my own. Similar to THUH book but
hopefully better written and easier to understand. I need some RV type
specific information.
What are you guys using as the two points to line up with when in the 45
degree angle-off position?
In THUH book type specific information is given for some aircraft. What
would be the type specific information you guys are using for RV's?
For formation takeoffs and landings what would be the differences between
nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
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| Subject: | Re: Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
spinner & aileron hinge (outside),...don't have a
thought on t.o.s and ldgs. but tricycles need greater
turning radius on taxi and turns.
--- Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
> Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> I am working on a Formation Manual of my own.
> Similar to THUH book but
> hopefully better written and easier to understand.
> I need some RV type
> specific information.
>
> What are you guys using as the two points to line up
> with when in the 45
> degree angle-off position?
>
> In THUH book type specific information is given for
> some aircraft. What
> would be the type specific information you guys are
> using for RV's?
>
> For formation takeoffs and landings what would be
> the differences between
> nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
>
> Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
>
> Steve Glasgow
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884
>
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| Subject: | Re: Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com>
The video covers take-off's more thuroughly than the book.....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Quoting bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
> spinner & aileron hinge (outside),...don't have a
> thought on t.o.s and ldgs. but tricycles need greater
> turning radius on taxi and turns.
> --- Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
>> Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> I am working on a Formation Manual of my own.
>> Similar to THUH book but
>> hopefully better written and easier to understand.
>> I need some RV type
>> specific information.
>>
>> What are you guys using as the two points to line up
>> with when in the 45
>> degree angle-off position?
>>
>> In THUH book type specific information is given for
>> some aircraft. What
>> would be the type specific information you guys are
>> using for RV's?
>>
>> For formation takeoffs and landings what would be
>> the differences between
>> nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
>>
>> Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
>>
>> Steve Glasgow
>> N123SG RV-8
>> Cappy's Toy
>> 704-362-0005
>> 704-281-7884
>>
>>
>>
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>> Contributions
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| Subject: | Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Steve,
I would recommend attending one of the clinics that are given by Mike
Stewart (Flight Lead, Team RV) and Stu McCurdy (Flight Lead, Flacon Flight,
Check Pilot and Originator of the Program for GA (RV focused) and obtainer
of the blessings from the FAA.
They have detailed presentations that cover all of this and it is
consistent.
This way you are not re-inventing the wheel.
I have a variety of notes and presentations that several people have put
together over time and I must say that Mike's current stuff it THE BEST for
the RV series of any I have seen.
---------------------------------
Now, to respond to you question ...
We align the outside aileron hinge to prop spinner. We stay on that line no
matter how far out. That puts you on a line but you will eventually need to
know "how close in" on the line you come. That reference is the trailing
edge of the rudder and the trailing edge of the far-side elevator. There is
a certain amount of the elevator you want everyone to see so that there is
consistent (symmetric) spacing. This is better shown than talked about.
I don't recall anything being discussed about nosewheel vs tailwhee. For
example, Mike leads in an RV6A (he's working on a Super 8) and Stu leads in
an RV8. I know that in the taxi, you can see a lot better in the "A" and
that the turn radius is just a little bit less. But those things are things
you get used to either as a wingman or as a lead.
---------------------------------
Third, please come down **anytime** and join us at our next practice and I
invite you to take a ride with me. That way you can see it first hand. Ken
and I practice every week (weather permitting) and often get in a practice
with Len and Bill a few times a month.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to call. By the way, there
is a formation clinic being held in KPKB in June I think (I plan to attend)
and although the clinic is full, it would be a good place to go an take a
ride-along with one of us.
| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
| rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
| Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:34 PM
| To: SERV
| Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Stuff!
|
| --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
| <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
|
| I am working on a Formation Manual of my own. Similar to THUH book but
| hopefully better written and easier to understand. I need some RV type
| specific information.
|
| What are you guys using as the two points to line up with when in the 45
| degree angle-off position?
|
| In THUH book type specific information is given for some aircraft. What
| would be the type specific information you guys are using for RV's?
|
| For formation takeoffs and landings what would be the differences between
| nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
|
| Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
|
| Steve Glasgow
| N123SG RV-8
| Cappy's Toy
| 704-362-0005
| 704-281-7884
|
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 3/17/05 5:51:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kharrill@osa.state.sc.us writes:
The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
and, as our special guests,
The Southeast RV Squadron
to the second annual
PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
Saturday, April 2nd
Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
Columbia, SC
Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
No Program
No Vendors
No Speeches
No Organization
No Charge
(Donations Accepted for
EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
Note right traffic for runway 13
If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
food.
by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:18 -0000
by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:17 -0000
From: "Ken Harrill" <kharrill@osa.state.sc.us>
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Subject: [Team RV] The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout
The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
and, as our special guests,
The Southeast RV Squadron
to the second annual
PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
Saturday, April 2nd
Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
Columbia, SC
Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
No Program
No Vendors
No Speeches
No Organization
No Charge
(Donations Accepted for
EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
Note right traffic for runway 13
If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
food.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Thanks Ken,
Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. Just shipped the prop back for
its finally tuning and am hoping it will get done before Sun & Fun but no
chance by April 2. Have to make it next time
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 3/17/05 5:51:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> kharrill@osa.state.sc.us writes:
>
> The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
>
> Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
> and, as our special guests,
>
> The Southeast RV Squadron
>
> to the second annual
>
> PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
>
> Saturday, April 2nd
> Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
>
>
> Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
> Columbia, SC
>
>
> Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
> Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
>
>
> No Program
> No Vendors
> No Speeches
> No Organization
> No Charge
> (Donations Accepted for
> EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
>
> Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
>
>
> www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
>
> Note right traffic for runway 13
>
>
> If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
> food.
>
>
> by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:18 -0000
> by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:17 -0000
> To: <teamrv@yahoogroups.com>
> From: "Ken Harrill" <kharrill@osa.state.sc.us>
> List-Id: <teamrv.yahoogroups.com>
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:teamrv-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:15 -0500
> Subject: [Team RV] The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout
>
>
> The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
>
> Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
> and, as our special guests,
>
> The Southeast RV Squadron
>
> to the second annual
>
> PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
>
> Saturday, April 2nd
> Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
>
>
> Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
> Columbia, SC
>
>
> Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
> Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
>
>
> No Program
> No Vendors
> No Speeches
> No Organization
> No Charge
> (Donations Accepted for
> EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
>
> Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
>
>
> www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
>
> Note right traffic for runway 13
>
>
> If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
> food.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research
Hospital's
> 'Thanks & Giving.'
> Click Here!
>
>
> <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teamrv/
>
> <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> teamrv-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Hi Steve,
If I may......not sure of your experience level regarding RV's or Formation
Flying in general.....but......although your enthusiasm/committment is
appreciated, with respect.....writing 'your own' formation document is not a good
idea.
A little background......'us' RV/Bonanza/Grumman/Whatever civilian formation
pilots ALL fly by the SAME standards. Formation Flying Incorporated
(FFI......driven by Stu 'Falcon' McCurdy) is the backbone of the organization.
It's
important that we continue to fly by the SAME standards for obvious reasons. I
suppose anyone could hop in and make up their own rules of how 'they' want to fly
fingertip, or 'their' version of an overhead break, or this is how 'we' do a
section landing.......the problem comes when you mix 'their version' of
formation flying with the rest of the formation community. Safety falls by the
wayside and someone WILL get hurt. EVERYONE flying formation needs to fly by the
SAME set of standards and rules. Again....the above is just a very brief
explanation of why the standards are SO important for ALL of us to follow.
I can fly ANYWHERE in the country at ANY airshow or in ANY backyard.....if
another pilot holds a current FFI formation Wingman/Flight Lead card I will fly
with them in a heartbeat and have NO RESERVATIONS about flying up close and
personal formation with them. Why??? Because they were TRAINED from the SAME
standards as the rest of us. Do I want to fly with folks that make up their own
rules and 'do it' their own way.......no thank you sir.
With that said....you are correct in that 'Thuh Book' is not specific to RV's
in general. Good timing....help is on the way :
). FFI has recently sent out
a 'supplement' to go along with 'Thuh Book' that is specific to RV's. The
draft document was recently reviewed by FFI members from around the country and
the finished product should be available shortly. This supplement does not 'take
away' from the standards we adhere to....but adds the info you are seeking
which is specific to RV's. Also, forthcoming will be a 'Formation Flying Inc'
website that will include all the necessary training
materials/documents/etc.....including info that is.....again.....specific to RV's.
In the mean time.....I recommend zipping over to the links section of Mike
Stewarts website where you can find information on RV formation flying that Team
RV teaches around the country....using 'Thuh Book' as the STANDARD.
Here's a link, scroll down to 'Formation Flying':
http://www2.mstewart.net:8080/michael/rv/Links/links.htm
This is the same information that we use for training within our Ohio Valley
RVators Group.
Oh yea, we're hosting an RV formation clinic here in Ohio on June 10,11,12.
We are currently 'booked' with about 45-50 RV's but the standby list is very
short.....I'm sure there will be an opening or two if you were
interested.......a BUNCH of our SERV buds are already signed up!!
Hope this helps.....any questions fire away!
Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - keep it SAFE!!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OhioValleyRVators/
I am working on a Formation Manual of my own. Similar to THUH book but
hopefully better written and easier to understand. I need some RV type
specific information.
What are you guys using as the two points to line up with when in the 45
degree angle-off position?
In THUH book type specific information is given for some aircraft. What
would be the type specific information you guys are using for RV's?
For formation takeoffs and landings what would be the differences between
nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
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| Subject: | Re: Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Hi Rick,
Thanks for your input and suggestions. When I say writing my own manual, I
don't mean making up my own rules. Basically, all I am doing is putting the
old information from THUH book, Team RV and Mooney together in a clear, more
concise method. I'm really doing it as more of a learning tool.
In that regard, any information that is RV type specific information would
be greatly appreciated.
What are you guys using as the two points to line up with when in the 45
degree angle-off position?
In THUH book type specific information is given for some aircraft. What
would be the type specific information you guys are using for RV's?
For formation takeoffs and landings what would be the differences between
nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
Thanks,
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
----- Original Message -----
From: <RGray67968@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Stuff!
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
>
> Hi Steve,
> If I may......not sure of your experience level regarding RV's or
> Formation
> Flying in general.....but......although your enthusiasm/committment is
> appreciated, with respect.....writing 'your own' formation document is not
> a good idea.
>
> A little background......'us' RV/Bonanza/Grumman/Whatever civilian
> formation
> pilots ALL fly by the SAME standards. Formation Flying Incorporated
> (FFI......driven by Stu 'Falcon' McCurdy) is the backbone of the
> organization. It's
> important that we continue to fly by the SAME standards for obvious
> reasons. I
> suppose anyone could hop in and make up their own rules of how 'they' want
> to fly
> fingertip, or 'their' version of an overhead break, or this is how 'we' do
> a
> section landing.......the problem comes when you mix 'their version' of
> formation flying with the rest of the formation community. Safety falls by
> the
> wayside and someone WILL get hurt. EVERYONE flying formation needs to fly
> by the
> SAME set of standards and rules. Again....the above is just a very brief
> explanation of why the standards are SO important for ALL of us to follow.
>
> I can fly ANYWHERE in the country at ANY airshow or in ANY backyard.....if
> another pilot holds a current FFI formation Wingman/Flight Lead card I
> will fly
> with them in a heartbeat and have NO RESERVATIONS about flying up close
> and
> personal formation with them. Why??? Because they were TRAINED from the
> SAME
> standards as the rest of us. Do I want to fly with folks that make up
> their own
> rules and 'do it' their own way.......no thank you sir.
>
> With that said....you are correct in that 'Thuh Book' is not specific to
> RV's
> in general. Good timing....help is on the way :
> ). FFI has recently sent out
> a 'supplement' to go along with 'Thuh Book' that is specific to RV's. The
> draft document was recently reviewed by FFI members from around the
> country and
> the finished product should be available shortly. This supplement does not
> 'take
> away' from the standards we adhere to....but adds the info you are seeking
> which is specific to RV's. Also, forthcoming will be a 'Formation Flying
> Inc'
> website that will include all the necessary training
> materials/documents/etc.....including info that is.....again.....specific
> to RV's.
>
> In the mean time.....I recommend zipping over to the links section of Mike
> Stewarts website where you can find information on RV formation flying
> that Team
> RV teaches around the country....using 'Thuh Book' as the STANDARD.
>
> Here's a link, scroll down to 'Formation Flying':
>
> http://www2.mstewart.net:8080/michael/rv/Links/links.htm
>
>
> This is the same information that we use for training within our Ohio
> Valley
> RVators Group.
>
> Oh yea, we're hosting an RV formation clinic here in Ohio on June
> 10,11,12.
> We are currently 'booked' with about 45-50 RV's but the standby list is
> very
> short.....I'm sure there will be an opening or two if you were
> interested.......a BUNCH of our SERV buds are already signed up!!
>
> Hope this helps.....any questions fire away!
>
> Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - keep it SAFE!!
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OhioValleyRVators/
>
>
> I am working on a Formation Manual of my own. Similar to THUH book but
> hopefully better written and easier to understand. I need some RV type
> specific information.
>
> What are you guys using as the two points to line up with when in the 45
> degree angle-off position?
>
> In THUH book type specific information is given for some aircraft. What
> would be the type specific information you guys are using for RV's?
>
> For formation takeoffs and landings what would be the differences between
> nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
>
> Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
>
> Steve Glasgow
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Formation Stuff! |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Could I borrow someone's VIDEO. I promise to return it.
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Stuff!
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> The video covers take-off's more thuroughly than the book.....
>
> --
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> Quoting bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>:
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
>> <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>>
>> spinner & aileron hinge (outside),...don't have a
>> thought on t.o.s and ldgs. but tricycles need greater
>> turning radius on taxi and turns.
>> --- Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
>>> Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>>
>>> I am working on a Formation Manual of my own.
>>> Similar to THUH book but
>>> hopefully better written and easier to understand.
>>> I need some RV type
>>> specific information.
>>>
>>> What are you guys using as the two points to line up
>>> with when in the 45
>>> degree angle-off position?
>>>
>>> In THUH book type specific information is given for
>>> some aircraft. What
>>> would be the type specific information you guys are
>>> using for RV's?
>>>
>>> For formation takeoffs and landings what would be
>>> the differences between
>>> nose wheel aircraft and tail wheel aircraft?
>>>
>>> Can we develop procedures suitable for both types?
>>>
>>> Steve Glasgow
>>> N123SG RV-8
>>> Cappy's Toy
>>> 704-362-0005
>>> 704-281-7884
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sorry buy my job is going to prevent me from coming. Oh well only 6 more
months and I retire.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 3/17/05 5:51:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> kharrill@osa.state.sc.us writes:
>
> The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
>
> Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
> and, as our special guests,
>
> The Southeast RV Squadron
>
> to the second annual
>
> PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
>
> Saturday, April 2nd
> Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
>
>
> Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
> Columbia, SC
>
>
> Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
> Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
>
>
> No Program
> No Vendors
> No Speeches
> No Organization
> No Charge
> (Donations Accepted for
> EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
>
> Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
>
>
> www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
>
> Note right traffic for runway 13
>
>
> If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
> food.
>
>
> by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:18 -0000
> by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2005 22:42:17 -0000
> To: <teamrv@yahoogroups.com>
> From: "Ken Harrill" <kharrill@osa.state.sc.us>
> List-Id: <teamrv.yahoogroups.com>
> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:teamrv-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:15 -0500
> Subject: [Team RV] The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout
>
>
> The Palmetto Wing of Van's Air Force
>
> Invites any and all RV pilots/flyers/builders, EAA members
> and, as our special guests,
>
> The Southeast RV Squadron
>
> to the second annual
>
> PALMETTO RV FLYIN COOKOUT
>
> Saturday, April 2nd
> Rain date April 3rd @ 1:30 PM
>
>
> Columbia Downtown Owens Field Airport
> Columbia, SC
>
>
> Palmetto Burgers and Carolina Dogs
> Grills will be fired up at 11:00 AM
>
>
> No Program
> No Vendors
> No Speeches
> No Organization
> No Charge
> (Donations Accepted for
> EAA 242 Sport Aviation Center)
>
> Just good food, RV's, and friendly conversation.
>
>
> www.airnav.com/airport/KCUB
>
> Note right traffic for runway 13
>
>
> If you plan to come email Ken.Harrill@Columbia.SC so we can buy enough
> food.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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| Subject: | Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Steve, we can keep you busy in retirement... a few RVs in the Charlotte area
still under construction ;)
PS. Regarding formation stuff.. something that might need to be addressed
is FP vs. C/S props (especially after the break). What I noticed one time
I went with the guys -- this is an area that would need more attention.
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
<willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sorry buy my job is going to prevent me from coming. Oh well only 6 more
months and I retire.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin Cookout |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Cool man cool!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: The second annual Palmetto RV Flyin
Cookout
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Steve, we can keep you busy in retirement... a few RVs in the Charlotte
> area
> still under construction ;)
>
>
> PS. Regarding formation stuff.. something that might need to be addressed
> is FP vs. C/S props (especially after the break). What I noticed one
> time
> I went with the guys -- this is an area that would need more attention.
>
> Radomir
> -7A Fuselage
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Sorry buy my job is going to prevent me from coming. Oh well only 6 more
> months and I retire.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Anyone else considering going to Ocracoke the 26th? I may and stay
overnight...but haven't looked into the lodging options yet.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/>
_____
From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com]
Subject: Re: Ocracoke
Larry: Ocracoke is awash in B&B and other lodging opportunities. We have
stayed at the Captain's Landing most recently, also at Blackbeard's motel
many centuries ago... Currently we are thinking of spending just the day
there Sat. because of other commitments at church on easter, tho we might
spend Friday night there before the lunch, or at Washington, NC with friends
there before heading over to the Outer Banks. I wonder who else is planning
to go...?
-Stormy
bound for Lancaster in the am...
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Subject: Ocracoke
Anymore thoughts on the Ocracoke trip? What B&B's are there? Reservations?
Etc?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com <mailto:Larry%40BowenAero.com>
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: <scott@keadle.com> with HTTP/1.1;
I am planning to go if the weather is decent. I do remember
that there are no night operations permitted. I have a two-
man tent that I might try out, or would consider staying at a
hotel, etc.
Scott
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Pam is coming with me, so a B & B is probably going to be required. I'll
look into them....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: with HTTP/1.1 [mailto:scott@keadle.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:45 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: FW: Ocracoke
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: <scott@keadle.com> with
> --> HTTP/1.1;
>
> I am planning to go if the weather is decent. I do remember
> that there are no night operations permitted. I have a two-
> man tent that I might try out, or would consider staying at a
> hotel, etc.
>
> Scott
>
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