---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/05/05: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Fw: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina (Lenleg@aol.com) 2. 05:28 AM - Re: Palmetto Wing Shirts (Dale Ensing) 3. 06:13 AM - Re: Palmetto Wing Shirts (Patty Gillies) 4. 06:36 AM - Fw: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina (Lenleg@aol.com) 5. 08:27 AM - Re: Palmetto Wing Shirts (Lenleg@aol.com) 6. 08:16 PM - Re: lakeland update (Larry Bowen) 7. 09:01 PM - Re: RV 8 FOR SALE (john Cargill) 8. 10:19 PM - Re: Re: lakeland update (James E. Clark) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:07 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/05 6:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com writes: I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2005 10:19:15 -0000 by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 10:19:14 -0000 by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2005 04:38:11 -0000 by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 04:38:11 -0000 From: "gmcjetpilot" List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: Subject: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP Give the gift of life to a sick child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' Click Here! <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: RV-8-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:30 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Palmetto Wing Shirts --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Sorry, but what is a "camp type" shirt? Dale Ensing ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:24 AM PST US From: "Patty Gillies" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Palmetto Wing Shirts --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Patty Gillies" Hi, I think there is some pictures of the shirt on the website. A camp type shirt is a short sleeve button up shirt with a pocket on the left breast. Patty >>> densing@carolina.rr.com 4/5/2005 8:28:04 AM >>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Sorry, but what is a "camp type" shirt? Dale Ensing ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:02 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fwd: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/05 7:45:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Lenleg writes: In a message dated 4/5/05 6:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com writes: I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina -------------------------------1112701539 In a message dated 4/5/05 6:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com writes: I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP -------------------------------1112701539 In a message dated 4/5/05 6:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com writes:
I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just=20an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info=20or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP -------------------------------1112701539-- by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2005 10:19:15 -0000 by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 10:19:14 -0000 by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2005 04:38:11 -0000 by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 04:38:11 -0000 From: "gmcjetpilot" List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: Subject: [RV-8] CFI North Carolina I am a CFI and live near Raleigh NC. I am considering offering training in my RV7 in the future, which I am still building. So sorry nothing available yet until my RV7 is finished. I have about 800 hours in RV's. I Checked into the FAA and insurance issues for getting my RV7 legal to do training (for hire). The plane needs simple approval/paperwork, 100-hour inspections, which is the easy part. The insurance is also easy, just an add-on to a personal policy. The quotes are not too high but not cheap either. Crunching all the numbers, insurance, gas, maintenance it will require a minimum of 5-10 students a year to break-even. I won't get rich, but that's not the intent. The real need is the scenario of the builder who finishes their RV and needs transition training before doing the madden flight in their RV. Initial flight training is not only a safety issue but also an insurance issue. All the insurance companies I talked to will not give first flight coverage if the pilot has no time in type (RV4, 6, 7 and 8 are lumped together). Tail Dragger time (total and RV) is another issue. Also some insurance requires participation in the EAA flight advisor program. It would not hurt to also avail yourself to the EAA technical counselor program. If you plan on getting first flight insurance get with the EAA's TC and FA program's. It can't hurt and may save you money. I checked into giving training in another RV or owner/builder planes. Bottom line, you cannot give training or checkouts until "Phase one" is completed. Obviously for someone who is already flying (phase one completed), I can give proficiency training, Flight Reviews and Instrument competency checks for example. As for the new RV/pilot situation, if they fly off phase 1, with no RV trans training, by the time they have completed phase one, they probability don't need or want training. Contact me off list if you like any help, info or suggestions about training and insurance. Let me know, glad to help, even if it is on the ground. Cheers George CFI(I)(MEI) ATP Give the gift of life to a sick child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' Click Here! <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV-8/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: RV-8-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:56 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Palmetto Wing Shirts --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 4/5/05 11:14:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, PGILLIES@gwm.sc.edu writes: Hi, I think there is some pictures of the shirt on the website. A camp type shirt is a short sleeve button up shirt with a pocket on the left breast. Patty Yes ... it is on page three of the SERV Events section of the Photo Gallery at _www.bowenaero.com/serv_ (http://www.bowenaero.com/serv) Len ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:31 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: lakeland update --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Bill - I think you meant to send this to the whole group. I may be going sometime, if I run out of excuses. Ignition, wheel pants and weather all have to cooperate first. How's that for commitment? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:05 PM > To: SERV@bowenaero.com > Subject: lakeland update > > any SERVers going down monday pm? I'll be going and would > love to have a bud fly in site part of the way. > gonna tent 2 nites near a friends road rv. bill c. > > > > __________________________________ > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:35 PM PST US From: john Cargill Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RV 8 FOR SALE --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: john Cargill Can you send any pics I know a few people intersted N184FN@aol.com wrote:--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N184FN@aol.com I AM GOING TO SALE MY RV 8 AND EMBARK ON THE RV 10 TASK. IF ANYONE KNOWS SOMEONE INTERESTED IN AN "8" PLEASE HAVE THEM CONTACT ME. WAYNE WILLIAMS 336-288-2620 GREENSBORO, NC ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:10 PM PST US From: "James E. Clark" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: lakeland update --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" Looks like I will be heading down on TUESDAY. In the Piper. I currently plan to "camp out" too. I plan to stay all week. Patty will be coming down in "PapaJuliette" near the end of the week. James | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- | rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen | Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:18 PM | To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com | Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: lakeland update | | --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" | | | Bill - | | I think you meant to send this to the whole group. | | I may be going sometime, if I run out of excuses. Ignition, wheel pants | and | weather all have to cooperate first. How's that for commitment? | | - | Larry Bowen | Larry@BowenAero.com | http://BowenAero.com | | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] | > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:05 PM | > To: SERV@bowenaero.com | > Subject: lakeland update | > | > any SERVers going down monday pm? I'll be going and would | > love to have a bud fly in site part of the way. | > gonna tent 2 nites near a friends road rv. bill c. | > | > | > | > __________________________________ | > Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. | > http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest | > | > | | | | |