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                           RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Sat 08/13/05: 9
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:26 AM - Hattaras Report  (Lori Millsap)
     2. 04:40 AM - Re: Stormy Auto Pilot question  (Ron Schreck)
     3. 06:43 AM - Re: Stormy Auto Pilot question  (sportav8r@aol.com)
     4. 06:50 AM - Re: Hattaras Report  (sportav8r@aol.com)
     5. 09:03 AM - Re: Stormy Auto Pilot question  (Lenleg@aol.com)
     6. 12:55 PM -   (owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com)
     7. 01:27 PM - Re: (no subject)  (Lenleg@aol.com)
     8. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: (no subject)  (Radomir Zaric)
     9. 02:56 PM - Re: Stormy Auto Pilot question  (sportav8r@aol.com)
 
 
 
________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 01:26:09 AM PST US
From: "Lori Millsap" <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hattaras Report

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lori Millsap" <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>

Stormy's post yesterday reminded me that I'd forgotten to report our trip 
from last Friday...and you guys may be the only ones who would understand! 
*grin*

With one child still at EAA Advanced Air Academy (she's home now, with 
welding projects in tow!) and the other child in grandparent-land, Dennis 
and I decided at 3:48pm last Friday afternoon that camping over at Cape 
Hattaras might be fun. We grabbed our gear, some charcoal, and were grilling 
at the state park by 6pm!

The runway at Hattaras is about 1/4 mile from the state park's front 
entrance. We had no trouble walking up and securing a campsite at the last 
minute, although I suppose on holiday weekends that wouldn't work. The 
amenities were adequate, and the walk to the beach short and delightful over 
a boardwalk-style sidewalk through a marsh. Dennis's one complaint was the 
traffic that extended until all hours of the night, but I slept well. GRIN.

The next morning, we took a sunrise dip in the ocean, then cleaned up, broke 
camp, and flew down to Ocracoke for breakfast. I suggest you bring walking 
shoes if you are going to do that hike (grin--I'd only brought beach 
sandals, but persevered!). It's probably just over half a mile, but it felt 
further since by then it was 9am or so and getting hot. We walked to the 
Pony Island Restaurant for breakfast, where service and prices were 
outstanding.

We got back to the plane in time to stop in Washington for some of their 
precious fuel (sigh) and home to Farmville just in time for the EAA Chapter 
960 meeting, where the Potters supplied fresh crab and fried shrimp for 
lunch.

So, all we did was fly and eat--what fun!

Lori & Dennis
N464DM
Greenville, NC 






________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 04:40:50 AM PST US
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question


> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Ron-
>
> One day at a time :-)
>
> I'd be delighted to have the alt hold in time to get the hundred dollars
off (Dec. 5th) from Trio.

Bill,  If you are planning to do it soon you may want to put the square hole
in your panel for the altitude hold button now while you have everything
disassembled.  I have the 3-view drawings of the button and its' mount if
you decide to go that route.  Trio sent it to me when I told them I wanted
to be ready when the unit arrives.

>
> I don't like to hit the household budget with too much avionics at one
time- keeps me below the domestic radar intercept threshold <g>.  As it is,
I'm bidding on Garmin GPSmap 296's on eBay using the three month same as
cash plan from Paypal.  Desperate times call for desperate measures, and
we're putting #2 kid through college without borrowing funds, so it's
working so far.
>
> My dream panel will have GRT EFIS's one day, afer they get the bugs ironed
out.  I monitor the GRT EFIS list, and am aware of the many issues still in
play.  By the time I'm ready to play, GRT will offer a display comparable to
MountainScope's pixel resolution and synthetic terrain view, or I'll sadly
be forced to take my cash wad elsewhere.  That's a field where the ferment
is considerable, and the real value will emerge months/years later, when
Dynon nips harder at GRT and BMA's heels as they seem to be already.  I have
come to realize I won't get full flexibility out of the GRT EFIS unless I
buy an ARINC frequency-agile NAV/COM/ILS radio to go with it, and boy do
they push up the price of the avionics suite.

Bill,  The Garmin(Apolo) SL-30 Nav/Comm interfaces with the GRT EFIS with a
single serial interface.  No ARINC interface ($475) is required for this
setup.  You will need ARINC however if you want traffic interface with the
GTX330 transponder or if you have the Garmin 430 or 530...  and now you are
talking some serious bucks!

> All in all, it's a heady time to be in homebuilding and experimental
aviation: the golden age of avionics.
>
> -Stormy
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Schreck <ronschreck@alltel.net>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck"
<ronschreck@alltel.net>
>
> Bill,
>
> I ordered Trio's altitude hold autopilot in May.  Called them yesterday
and
> they said it would probably ship in early September and I would be one of
> the first to get it.  I have already installed the EZ Pilot.  Hope to
finish
> out the instrument panel soon.  The GRT EFIS will arrive on Monday.
Whoopee!
>
> If you want the Trio altitude hold, order now.  There is quite a backlog.
>
> Ron Schreck
> Gold Hill Airpark
> RV-8
>






________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 06:43:58 AM PST US
From: sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com

Ron, my poor ol' panel already looks like Swiss cheese from all the mods I've made
along the way.  One more patched-on sub panel won't hurt anything :-)

I have a new blank panel waiting in the basement, for later replacement of the
current one with a nice clean-looking "professional" panel, once I collect and
patch-in all the avionics pieces I want to have in there.  Until then, I'm not
sweating the "looks" thing, or the metal shavings that sprinkle down all over
the avionics from cutting new holes in an old panel (gulp!)  ...call me "Sparky"
or "Shorty" :-)

-Stormy

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Schreck <ronschreck@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question


--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question


> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Ron-
>
> One day at a time :-)
>
> I'd be delighted to have the alt hold in time to get the hundred dollars
off (Dec. 5th) from Trio.

Bill,  If you are planning to do it soon you may want to put the square hole
in your panel for the altitude hold button now while you have everything
disassembled.  I have the 3-view drawings of the button and its' mount if
you decide to go that route.  Trio sent it to me when I told them I wanted
to be ready when the unit arrives.

>






________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 06:50:01 AM PST US
From: sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hattaras Report

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com

The one word that comes to mind when I think of you guys having this adventure
is "intrepid."  What a great time!  Lori, congrats on your perseverance, especially
the hard Ocracoke miles walked in flip-flops and hot sun.  Dennis is getting
you back for dragging him up here to the fly-in the morning after he got
home from the AFB :-)

How neat that your daughter is so hooked on aviation that she'd brave Advanced
Air Academy :-)

You guys have a blessed month and we'll see you in September one way or another.
Watch your cholesterol after all that shrimp and crabmeat.  My Dad and I are
waiting patiently for a break in the hazy hot  so far, every weekend morning
here's been IFR till noon for the past month!

-Stormy

Autopilot going in this week

-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Millsap <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hattaras Report


--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lori Millsap" <dwmillsap@hyperlogic.net>

Stormy's post yesterday reminded me that I'd forgotten to report our trip 
from last Friday...and you guys may be the only ones who would understand! 
*grin*

With one child still at EAA Advanced Air Academy (she's home now, with 
welding projects in tow!) and the other child in grandparent-land, Dennis 
and I decided at 3:48pm last Friday afternoon that camping over at Cape 
Hattaras might be fun. We grabbed our gear, some charcoal, and were grilling 
at the state park by 6pm!

The runway at Hattaras is about 1/4 mile from the state park's front 
entrance. We had no trouble walking up and securing a campsite at the last 
minute, although I suppose on holiday weekends that wouldn't work. The 
amenities were adequate, and the walk to the beach short and delightful over 
a boardwalk-style sidewalk through a marsh. Dennis's one complaint was the 
traffic that extended until all hours of the night, but I slept well. GRIN.

The next morning, we took a sunrise dip in the ocean, then cleaned up, broke 
camp, and flew down to Ocracoke for breakfast. I suggest you bring walking 
shoes if you are going to do that hike (grin--I'd only brought beach 
sandals, but persevered!). It's probably just over half a mile, but it felt 
further since by then it was 9am or so and getting hot. We walked to the 
Pony Island Restaurant for breakfast, where service and prices were 
outstanding.

We got back to the plane in time to stop in Washington for some of their 
precious fuel (sigh) and home to Farmville just in time for the EAA Chapter 
960 meeting, where the Potters supplied fresh crab and fried shrimp for 
lunch.

So, all we did was fly and eat--what fun!

Lori & Dennis
N464DM
Greenville, NC 






________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 09:03:32 AM PST US
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com


In a message dated 8/12/2005 8:58:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sportav8r@aol.com writes:

I don't  like to hit the household budget with too much avionics at one time- 
keeps me  below the domestic radar intercept threshold <g>.  As it is, I'm  
bidding on Garmin GPSmap 296's 


Stormy:

I wanted a back up to my Garmin 295 for trips and Donna to use in the back  
... just could not justify the 396 ... bought a 295 off Ebay this week for $500

 .... thought it was a good buy.

Len






________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 12:55:11 PM PST US
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: 

From: "AYRES, JIMMY L" <JAYRES@entergy.com>
        "'rv7-list@matronics.com'" <rv7-list@matronics.com>
Subject: 

Hey guys,

> 

> 

> I am new to the RV list and recently purchased a RF7A QB from an 

> individual.  I was trying to fit up my HS/elevator and noticed that 

> when clamped in place, there was almost no travel of down elevator 

> allowed due to the down stop (F711E).  When I called Vans, they told 

> me that this piece had to be trimmed and almost seemed insulted by the 

> question since this information was in my instructions.

> 

> 

> Well either I'm a complete idiot or I am missing something because I 

> have been completely through my instructions and drawings and I have found no
reference to this nor have I found any information on elevator defection limits.
I am concerned that maybe I am missing some of my instruction manual.

> 

> 

> Can anyone out there tell me where this info is located?


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trying to fit up my HS/elevator and noticed that 


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through my instructions and drawings and I have found no reference to this nor
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________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 01:27:34 PM PST US
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: (no subject)

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com


In a message dated 8/13/2005 3:55:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com writes:

>  have been completely through my instructions and drawings and I have found 
no  reference to this nor have I found any information on elevator defection  
limits.  I am concerned that maybe I am missing some of my instruction  
manual.


I believe it is in the final assembly part of the manual ... it gives you a  
measurement in degrees that the elevators should travel both up and down and 
you  trim to allow that.

Welcome to the RV world and SERV.

Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC  N910LL
376 hrs






________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 01:34:39 PM PST US
From: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Re: (no subject)

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>

Chapter 15, page 2 (15-2) shows the limits.

Drawing 27A has the dimensions for F-711E... I'd check that the part has
been fabricated to correct dimensions.

Good luck,

Radomir
-7A Fuselage


In a message dated 8/13/2005 3:55:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com writes:

>  have been completely through my instructions and drawings and I have
found 
no  reference to this nor have I found any information on elevator defection

limits.  I am concerned that maybe I am missing some of my instruction  
manual.


I believe it is in the final assembly part of the manual ... it gives you a

measurement in degrees that the elevators should travel both up and down and

you  trim to allow that.






________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 02:56:58 PM PST US
From: sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question

--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com

Agree; but this one's going to be my primary panel GPS, though, with the airmap
500 going in the glove box as a spare.  For that application, I feel the extra
bucks for the 296 is a good deal; about $1250 currently on eBay. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy Auto Pilot question


--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com


In a message dated 8/12/2005 8:58:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sportav8r@aol.com writes:

I don't  like to hit the household budget with too much avionics at one time- 
keeps me  below the domestic radar intercept threshold <g>.  As it is, I'm  
bidding on Garmin GPSmap 296's 


Stormy:

I wanted a back up to my Garmin 295 for trips and Donna to use in the back  
... just could not justify the 396 ... bought a 295 off Ebay this week for $500

 .... thought it was a good buy.

Len