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1. 03:20 AM - Re: Brake fire (Ron Schreck)
2. 04:45 AM - Re: New panel (Wayne Williams)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Brake fire (Ed Anderson)
4. 06:45 AM - Re: Brake fire (Dale Ensing)
5. 08:46 AM - Re: New panel (sportav8r@aol.com)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: New panel (Wayne Williams)
7. 09:08 AM - Re: Brake fire (Ed Anderson)
8. 10:25 AM - Re: New panel (sportav8r@aol.com)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
Ed,
Stave Glasgow and I flew up there several months ago. They sell it in quart
cans. They don't have it at the FBO office. You need to ask their
maintenance man to bring some from the hangar.
Ron Schreck
(GRT EFIS arrives today!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
<eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Yes, a bit of excitement for sure. My bird now has stainless steel
braided
> lines as well - certainly don't want a repeat {:>). Seems like someone on
> the Southeast RV list talked about purchasing a quantity of the 80 series
> fluid back some time ago - but hadn't heard anything more about it.
> May just have to fly up to Danville with a pint can and see if I can get
> any.
>
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
>
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
> > <rwayne@gamewood.net>
> >
> > I was just looking at the pictures on the list SERV
> > (http://servpix.myphotoalbum.com
> > And was surprised to see the pics of Ed's brake line failure and
> > subsequent
> > fire. My RV9A kit has steel braided lines instead of the aluminum tubing
> > that so many of us are using. May be time for an upgrade... Also, as a
> > reminder, the Danville FBO now carries that new brake fluid that has the
> > much higher flashpoint.
> >
> > Wayne8A
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Interesting how Nuchols and Ritcher don't see eye to eye. Each have
definitely taken the internet "swing" at each other.
I got the BMA for the H S I. Whole different algorithm for the AI than the
Dynon, too. I put the compass up top for fear of not having any good heading
info if total electric failure. It was a hard decision but it's really not
in line of site.
My LEDs are quite simple; step down resistor in series running parallel line
from the power side of fuel pump. No need for a diode since the LEDs keep
current flow one way. Could do it for landing lights or whatever. I also
have my EIS warning light there and the AOA switches.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Oh, phooey - I failed to notice the BMA avionics; my bad - take back what I
said about craftsmanship, and you're going to need that whiskey compass more
than I thought ;-) Just kidding.
I kinda feel about BMA the way Matt Dralle must feel about JPI; anyone who
disses my homeboy Bob Nuckolls has lost my avionics busuness before he ever
got it. That part I am not kidding about.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Radomir Zaric <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
--> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Looks great..
How do you like the BMA Lite?
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
(back in business)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Williams
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
Just finished my new panel upgrade. I did away with all the vacuum stuff
trying to get the best of both worlds- acro and IFR. Don't think there's any
production airplane that can claim that! Larry uploaded a pic for me on the
pixserv (http://servpix.myphotoalbum.com) Still need to add my labels and
complete my homebrew LED indicator light panel. Funny how I like to keep
working on this plane even after its flying!
Wayne8A
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Ok, thanks, Ron
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck"
> <ronschreck@alltel.net>
>
> Ed,
>
> Stave Glasgow and I flew up there several months ago. They sell it in
> quart
> cans. They don't have it at the FBO office. You need to ask their
> maintenance man to bring some from the hangar.
>
> Ron Schreck
> (GRT EFIS arrives today!)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> Yes, a bit of excitement for sure. My bird now has stainless steel
> braided
>> lines as well - certainly don't want a repeat {:>). Seems like someone
>> on
>> the Southeast RV list talked about purchasing a quantity of the 80 series
>> fluid back some time ago - but hadn't heard anything more about it.
>> May just have to fly up to Danville with a pint can and see if I can get
>> any.
>>
>> Ed
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
>>
>>
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
>> > <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>> >
>> > I was just looking at the pictures on the list SERV
>> > (http://servpix.myphotoalbum.com
>> > And was surprised to see the pics of Ed's brake line failure and
>> > subsequent
>> > fire. My RV9A kit has steel braided lines instead of the aluminum
>> > tubing
>> > that so many of us are using. May be time for an upgrade... Also, as a
>> > reminder, the Danville FBO now carries that new brake fluid that has
>> > the
>> > much higher flashpoint.
>> >
>> > Wayne8A
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Ed,
Do your new SS flex brake lines run all the way from the fuse to the brake
caliper? If yes, what method did you use to attach them to the gear legs to
prevent abrasion to the gear leg and yet not interfere with the gear leg
fairings?
Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I worried after I went to bed last night that my cutesie reply was over the top
and might not be seen as tongue in cheek.
I can afford to give Richter the cold shoulder because he has so much competition.
No doubt he makes a very good product, despite the way he's managed to offend
some folks. I choose not to overlook his company's customer service reputation
and his demonstrated ignorance of basic electricity (vs. electronics) because
I have the luxury of shopping elsewhere. If he were the only game in town,
I'd certainly buy his stuff. Why, I've even forgiven Smith and Wesson for
selling out briefly to the Clinton gun control scheme since I want one of their
wheel guns badly enough (my wish list includes a stainless 686 6" barrel in
.357 mag), despite how I felt about the company at the time. So, I'm not really
aghast that there's a BMA in your panel :-) as if it were any of my business
anyway...
Regarding the LED lights, I am intersted in how you implemented the structural
part of the installation, mounting the lights and labels and dividers between,
etc.
I finished the mechanical installation of my Trio EZ-Pilot last evening, and will
tackle the electrical part when the harness arrives, hopefiully today.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Williams <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Interesting how Nuchols and Ritcher don't see eye to eye. Each have
definitely taken the internet "swing" at each other.
I got the BMA for the H S I. Whole different algorithm for the AI than the
Dynon, too. I put the compass up top for fear of not having any good heading
info if total electric failure. It was a hard decision but it's really not
in line of site.
My LEDs are quite simple; step down resistor in series running parallel line
from the power side of fuel pump. No need for a diode since the LEDs keep
current flow one way. Could do it for landing lights or whatever. I also
have my EIS warning light there and the AOA switches.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Oh, phooey - I failed to notice the BMA avionics; my bad - take back what I
said about craftsmanship, and you're going to need that whiskey compass more
than I thought ;-) Just kidding.
I kinda feel about BMA the way Matt Dralle must feel about JPI; anyone who
disses my homeboy Bob Nuckolls has lost my avionics busuness before he ever
got it. That part I am not kidding about.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Radomir Zaric <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
--> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Looks great..
How do you like the BMA Lite?
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
(back in business)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Williams
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
Just finished my new panel upgrade. I did away with all the vacuum stuff
trying to get the best of both worlds- acro and IFR. Don't think there's any
production airplane that can claim that! Larry uploaded a pic for me on the
pixserv (http://servpix.myphotoalbum.com) Still need to add my labels and
complete my homebrew LED indicator light panel. Funny how I like to keep
working on this plane even after its flying!
Wayne8A
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
So, can I put the BMA back in the panel? The hole really looks funny! ;)
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I worried after I went to bed last night that my cutesie reply was over the
top and might not be seen as tongue in cheek.
I can afford to give Richter the cold shoulder because he has so much
competition. No doubt he makes a very good product, despite the way he's
managed to offend some folks. I choose not to overlook his company's
customer service reputation and his demonstrated ignorance of basic
electricity (vs. electronics) because I have the luxury of shopping
elsewhere. If he were the only game in town, I'd certainly buy his stuff.
Why, I've even forgiven Smith and Wesson for selling out briefly to the
Clinton gun control scheme since I want one of their wheel guns badly enough
(my wish list includes a stainless 686 6" barrel in .357 mag), despite how I
felt about the company at the time. So, I'm not really aghast that there's
a BMA in your panel :-) as if it were any of my business anyway...
Regarding the LED lights, I am intersted in how you implemented the
structural part of the installation, mounting the lights and labels and
dividers between, etc.
I finished the mechanical installation of my Trio EZ-Pilot last evening, and
will tackle the electrical part when the harness arrives, hopefiully today.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Williams <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
Interesting how Nuchols and Ritcher don't see eye to eye. Each have
definitely taken the internet "swing" at each other.
I got the BMA for the H S I. Whole different algorithm for the AI than the
Dynon, too. I put the compass up top for fear of not having any good heading
info if total electric failure. It was a hard decision but it's really not
in line of site.
My LEDs are quite simple; step down resistor in series running parallel line
from the power side of fuel pump. No need for a diode since the LEDs keep
current flow one way. Could do it for landing lights or whatever. I also
have my EIS warning light there and the AOA switches.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Oh, phooey - I failed to notice the BMA avionics; my bad - take back what I
said about craftsmanship, and you're going to need that whiskey compass more
than I thought ;-) Just kidding.
I kinda feel about BMA the way Matt Dralle must feel about JPI; anyone who
disses my homeboy Bob Nuckolls has lost my avionics busuness before he ever
got it. That part I am not kidding about.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Radomir Zaric <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
--> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Looks great..
How do you like the BMA Lite?
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
(back in business)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Williams
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
Just finished my new panel upgrade. I did away with all the vacuum stuff
trying to get the best of both worlds- acro and IFR. Don't think there's any
production airplane that can claim that! Larry uploaded a pic for me on the
pixserv (http://servpix.myphotoalbum.com) Still need to add my labels and
complete my homebrew LED indicator light panel. Funny how I like to keep
working on this plane even after its flying!
Wayne8A
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Hi Dale,
The answer is yes and I use a strip of the electrical anti-chaff material.
Its the type that is spiral like a spring make of a tansluence plastic.
I've had it on the left side (where I had previously replace the brake line
with the SS hose - should have replaced the right one at that time {:>))
for over 200hrs and it appears to do the job.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Brake fire
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Ed,
> Do your new SS flex brake lines run all the way from the fuse to the brake
> caliper? If yes, what method did you use to attach them to the gear legs
> to
> prevent abrasion to the gear leg and yet not interfere with the gear leg
> fairings?
> Dale Ensing
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
No, I told you: the whiskey compass goes there :-)
Now post a pic or two of your LED annunciator panel.
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Williams <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: New panel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
So, can I put the BMA back in the panel? The hole really looks funny! ;)
Wayne
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