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1. 11:58 AM - Trio update (sportav8r@aol.com)
2. 12:21 PM - O-540's 4 sale (Larry Bowen)
3. 12:48 PM - Re: Trio update (Wayne Williams)
4. 12:58 PM - Re: Trio update (BOB martin)
5. 01:24 PM - Re: Trio update (sportav8r@aol.com)
6. 01:46 PM - Re: Trio update (sportav8r@aol.com)
7. 03:38 PM - Re: O-540's 4 sale (Marcus Cooper)
8. 03:39 PM - Re: Trio update (Dale Ensing)
9. 04:00 PM - Re: Trio update (vitez@carolina.rr.com)
10. 04:18 PM - tapping nutplates (BOB martin)
11. 04:37 PM - Re: nutplates (Dale Ensing)
12. 07:00 PM - Re: Trio update (Larry Bowen)
13. 07:27 PM - Re: Trio update (Wayne Williams)
14. 07:33 PM - Links (Larry Bowen)
15. 07:43 PM - Re: Trio update (Larry Bowen)
16. 08:09 PM - Re: nutplates MADE EASY (Bill Schlatterer)
17. 10:29 PM - Re: Re: nutplates MADE EASY (vitez@carolina.rr.com)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I flew my new Trio EZ pilot A/P with the new GPS connected for the first time yesterday,
and was that ever sweet! Kinda spooky to see invisible hands flying
your airplane for the first time in 500 hours. I'm easily impressed, but having
two brand new boxes in the cockpit with me on a test flight, I couldn't help
but be.
I'm still exploring the capabilities of the Trio, but it tracks a flight plan,
does the emergency 180, and holds a course well, and is a functional wing-leveler
even without GPS input. Installation was very straightforward and uncomplicated.
The Garmin 296 manual took all day Saturday and half the day Sunday to
pore over, but I think I am now capable of putting that unit through most of
its paces. The UPS man brought me a data cable last week for it, and a Panel
Dock form AirGizmos today, so by tonight it should be in my panel like it belongs
there, instead of dangling from a bunch of wires like yesterday ;-)
I had the EZ-Pilot follow a 90-degree turn at a flight plan waypoint, and the overshoot
to the outside of the turn was about 0.8nm at 150 mph, with a secondary
overshoot to the inside of 0.12nm before it locked onto the new heading outbound.
This is no doubt due to the 15 degree bank limiting default setting, so
I will play with the gain a bit on subsequent flights. Thanks, Sam B., for
your earlier suggestion of gain values. I plan to look them up and use them as
starting points.
-Stormy
very happy Garmin and Trio customer
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
FYI -
See below for turn-key O-540 opportunities. Prices sound high, but what
do I know...
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
do not archive
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: O-540 Specs & Prices
From: "Kelvin Boyette" <kelvinboyette@earthlink.net>
OOPS. $39,000 per engine firewall forward. This is based on $25,500
overhaul, hose kits and accessories, core value, mounts, and $8200 prop
job.
Thanks!
Kelvin Boyette
Boyette Aviation
Mount Airy - Surry County Airport
146 Howard Woltz Jr. Way
Mount Airy, NC 27030
336-789-5153
www.boyetteaviation.com
> [Original Message]
> From: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> To: <kelvinboyette@earthlink.net>
> Date: 8/22/2005 2:35:34 PM
> Subject: Re: O-540 Specs & Prices
>
> Clarify 39K for the pair. Your previous email sounded like "per engine".
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Kelvin Boyette said:
> > Larry,
> >
> > The engines on the Aztec are 0-540-A1D5.
> >
> > The right engine has 5553 TTSnew and 37 SMOH. The right prop is 37
since
> > overhaul.
> >
> > The left engine has 5607 TTSnew and 32 SMOH. The left prop has 32
since overhaul.
> >
> > I am attaching pics for your review.
> >
> > The asking price for EVERYTHING firewall forward is $39,000. Please
let me know if you or any of the RVers are interested.
> >
> > I will be out of town Tuesday and Wednesday, but will have access to
email
> > late every evening. If anyone has questions, please have them contact
Travis Peterschick, A&P/IA at the airport. Travis is also cc'd on
this email.
> >
> > THANKS!
> >
> > Kelvin Boyette
> > Boyette Aviation
> > Mount Airy - Surry County Airport
> > 146 Howard Woltz Jr. Way
> > Mount Airy, NC 27030
> > 336-789-5153
> > www.boyetteaviation.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Outstanding! Now the problem will be falling asleep on the long trip home.
Maybe you should put a DVD player in next...
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I flew my new Trio EZ pilot A/P with the new GPS connected for the first
time yesterday, and was that ever sweet! Kinda spooky to see invisible
hands flying your airplane for the first time in 500 hours. I'm easily
impressed, but having two brand new boxes in the cockpit with me on a test
flight, I couldn't help but be.
I'm still exploring the capabilities of the Trio, but it tracks a flight
plan, does the emergency 180, and holds a course well, and is a functional
wing-leveler even without GPS input. Installation was very straightforward
and uncomplicated. The Garmin 296 manual took all day Saturday and half the
day Sunday to pore over, but I think I am now capable of putting that unit
through most of its paces. The UPS man brought me a data cable last week
for it, and a Panel Dock form AirGizmos today, so by tonight it should be in
my panel like it belongs there, instead of dangling from a bunch of wires
like yesterday ;-)
I had the EZ-Pilot follow a 90-degree turn at a flight plan waypoint, and
the overshoot to the outside of the turn was about 0.8nm at 150 mph, with a
secondary overshoot to the inside of 0.12nm before it locked onto the new
heading outbound. This is no doubt due to the 15 degree bank limiting
default setting, so I will play with the gain a bit on subsequent flights.
Thanks, Sam B., for your earlier suggestion of gain values. I plan to look
them up and use them as starting points.
-Stormy
very happy Garmin and Trio customer
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Stormy,
Thanks for the update...you have been a busy boy!!!
Assuming the wing leveler connection installed in the wing, how was that to
install?
I was thinking about the under the seat install by TruTrak to make it easier
than working in the wing inspection hole.
So I guess you default to LEAD so the rest of us hand fliers can look smooth
following you! :-)
Bob Martin
Louisa Va
>From: sportav8r@aol.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com, rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:58:07 -0400
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
>I flew my new Trio EZ pilot A/P with the new GPS connected for the first
>time yesterday, and was that ever sweet! Kinda spooky to see invisible
>hands flying your airplane for the first time in 500 hours. I'm easily
>impressed, but having two brand new boxes in the cockpit with me on a test
>flight, I couldn't help but be.
>
>I'm still exploring the capabilities of the Trio, but it tracks a flight
>plan, does the emergency 180, and holds a course well, and is a functional
>wing-leveler even without GPS input. Installation was very straightforward
>and uncomplicated. The Garmin 296 manual took all day Saturday and half
>the day Sunday to pore over, but I think I am now capable of putting that
>unit through most of its paces. The UPS man brought me a data cable last
>week for it, and a Panel Dock form AirGizmos today, so by tonight it should
>be in my panel like it belongs there, instead of dangling from a bunch of
>wires like yesterday ;-)
>
>I had the EZ-Pilot follow a 90-degree turn at a flight plan waypoint, and
>the overshoot to the outside of the turn was about 0.8nm at 150 mph, with a
>secondary overshoot to the inside of 0.12nm before it locked onto the new
>heading outbound. This is no doubt due to the 15 degree bank limiting
>default setting, so I will play with the gain a bit on subsequent flights.
>Thanks, Sam B., for your earlier suggestion of gain values. I plan to look
>them up and use them as starting points.
>
>-Stormy
>
>very happy Garmin and Trio customer
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I found the wingtip install to go very smoothly, using SafeAir1-supplied parts.
One of the easiest mods I've ever done on the RV. I hate accessing the area
under the seat pans. For some reason, those screws are always a pain to take
in and out, the ribs bend and the plate nuts cross-thread, the edge screws are
too close to the fuselage sides to get on with a drill/driver, necessitating
the phillips bit in the 1/4" socket wrench trick, etc. I would never want to
install anything there if I had a choice.
Control head was a drop-in replacement in the T/C hole, four screws that mount
from the front with no nuts on the back - yippee!
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: BOB martin <libertyva@msn.com>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Stormy,
Thanks for the update...you have been a busy boy!!!
Assuming the wing leveler connection installed in the wing, how was that to
install?
I was thinking about the under the seat install by TruTrak to make it easier
than working in the wing inspection hole.
So I guess you default to LEAD so the rest of us hand fliers can look smooth
following you! :-)
Bob Martin
Louisa Va
>From: sportav8r@aol.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com, rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:58:07 -0400
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
>I flew my new Trio EZ pilot A/P with the new GPS connected for the first
>time yesterday, and was that ever sweet! Kinda spooky to see invisible
>hands flying your airplane for the first time in 500 hours. I'm easily
>impressed, but having two brand new boxes in the cockpit with me on a test
>flight, I couldn't help but be.
>
>I'm still exploring the capabilities of the Trio, but it tracks a flight
>plan, does the emergency 180, and holds a course well, and is a functional
>wing-leveler even without GPS input. Installation was very straightforward
>and uncomplicated. The Garmin 296 manual took all day Saturday and half
>the day Sunday to pore over, but I think I am now capable of putting that
>unit through most of its paces. The UPS man brought me a data cable last
>week for it, and a Panel Dock form AirGizmos today, so by tonight it should
>be in my panel like it belongs there, instead of dangling from a bunch of
>wires like yesterday ;-)
>
>I had the EZ-Pilot follow a 90-degree turn at a flight plan waypoint, and
>the overshoot to the outside of the turn was about 0.8nm at 150 mph, with a
>secondary overshoot to the inside of 0.12nm before it locked onto the new
>heading outbound. This is no doubt due to the 15 degree bank limiting
>default setting, so I will play with the gain a bit on subsequent flights.
>Thanks, Sam B., for your earlier suggestion of gain values. I plan to look
>them up and use them as starting points.
>
>-Stormy
>
>very happy Garmin and Trio customer
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Hi, Wayne.
My 17 year old has shown me how to copy music CD's onto my Palm Tungsten, so I
have a poor man's iPod, and the plane is wired for stereo Aux In. I'm all set.
My titles include "Highway Star" by Deep Purple, and "Move It On Over," "Mustang
Sally" and other road trip hits for gettin' on down the airways :-) I need
to get "Danger Zone" (Top Gun) for the barrel roll sequence...
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Williams <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Outstanding! Now the problem will be falling asleep on the long trip home.
Maybe you should put a DVD player in next...
Wayne
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Pretty reasonable prices with one large caveat - I bought an Aztec engine
for my Skybolt some time ago and the prop governor wasn't usable as it's
designed to feather at 0 oil pressure instead of go flat pitch. You
probably don't want the Aztec prop either for similar reasons. On a twin
feathering a dead engine is good, on a single losing oil pressure to the
prop and feather is bad as you just lost your thrust even if the engine is
still operating. Might be a good deal if you can sell of the
engine/governor or just buy the engine.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: O-540's 4 sale
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
FYI -
See below for turn-key O-540 opportunities. Prices sound high, but what
do I know...
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
do not archive
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: O-540 Specs & Prices
From: "Kelvin Boyette" <kelvinboyette@earthlink.net>
OOPS. $39,000 per engine firewall forward. This is based on $25,500
overhaul, hose kits and accessories, core value, mounts, and $8200 prop
job.
Thanks!
Kelvin Boyette
Boyette Aviation
Mount Airy - Surry County Airport
146 Howard Woltz Jr. Way
Mount Airy, NC 27030
336-789-5153
www.boyetteaviation.com
> [Original Message]
> From: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> To: <kelvinboyette@earthlink.net>
> Date: 8/22/2005 2:35:34 PM
> Subject: Re: O-540 Specs & Prices
>
> Clarify 39K for the pair. Your previous email sounded like "per engine".
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Kelvin Boyette said:
> > Larry,
> >
> > The engines on the Aztec are 0-540-A1D5.
> >
> > The right engine has 5553 TTSnew and 37 SMOH. The right prop is 37
since
> > overhaul.
> >
> > The left engine has 5607 TTSnew and 32 SMOH. The left prop has 32
since overhaul.
> >
> > I am attaching pics for your review.
> >
> > The asking price for EVERYTHING firewall forward is $39,000. Please
let me know if you or any of the RVers are interested.
> >
> > I will be out of town Tuesday and Wednesday, but will have access to
email
> > late every evening. If anyone has questions, please have them contact
Travis Peterschick, A&P/IA at the airport. Travis is also cc'd on
this email.
> >
> > THANKS!
> >
> > Kelvin Boyette
> > Boyette Aviation
> > Mount Airy - Surry County Airport
> > 146 Howard Woltz Jr. Way
> > Mount Airy, NC 27030
> > 336-789-5153
> > www.boyetteaviation.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the fuselage sides to
get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips bit in the 1/4"
socket wrench trick, etc
Stormy,
Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric screwdriver
or drill? Could not be without that thing!
Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
Does tapping nutplates, as instructions suggest, help any? I need to
do that next/soon, so I'm really curious whether to bother with that
or not..
Thanks!
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the fuselage
> sides to
> get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips bit in the
1/4"
> socket wrench trick, etc
>
> Stormy,
> Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric
> screwdriveror drill? Could not be without that thing!
> Dale Ensing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | tapping nutplates |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Yes it helps a lot from what I've found!
Bob Martin
Louisa Va
>From: vitez@carolina.rr.com
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:59:45 -0400
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
>
>Does tapping nutplates, as instructions suggest, help any? I need to
>do that next/soon, so I'm really curious whether to bother with that
>or not..
>
>Thanks!
>
>Radomir
>-7A Fuselage
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:39 pm
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> > <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> > Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the fuselage
> > sides to
> > get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips bit in the
>1/4"
> > socket wrench trick, etc
> >
> > Stormy,
> > Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric
> > screwdriveror drill? Could not be without that thing!
> > Dale Ensing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Radomir,
Another technique for preparing nutplates that I have used is a Allen head
cap screw of the proper size. The cap screws are made from a hardened
material and will open up the threads a bit without cutting into the
nutplates. Also, the recessed hex head makes it easier to use vs. a Phillips
or sloted. If I have many nutplates to do, I have chucked the round external
head of the screw into my electric drill and run it slowly into the
nutplate. It also helps to put some Moly containing lube on the capscrew.
Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I've carefully used the tap on only a couple nutplates. It seemed to take
ALL the bite out of it instead of just breaking them in. Maybe I did it too
much. Anyway, I prefer to use some dry BoeLube on the screw threads
instead. Same effect without loosening the grip of the nutplate.
As Dale suggested, socket head cap screws are a nice upgrade where they
won't be in the way. The edges of my cockpit floors, footwells and baggage
floors are installed with these, and it make screwing/unscrewing in crowded
or awkward areas much easier.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of vitez@carolina.rr.com
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
>
> Does tapping nutplates, as instructions suggest, help any? I
> need to do that next/soon, so I'm really curious whether to
> bother with that or not..
>
> Thanks!
>
> Radomir
> -7A Fuselage
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:39 pm
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> > <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> > Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the
> fuselage sides
> > to get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips bit in the
> 1/4"
> > socket wrench trick, etc
> >
> > Stormy,
> > Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric
> > screwdriveror drill? Could not be without that thing!
> > Dale Ensing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Larry, I thought you used the Torx screws...
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
--> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I've carefully used the tap on only a couple nutplates. It seemed to take
ALL the bite out of it instead of just breaking them in. Maybe I did it too
much. Anyway, I prefer to use some dry BoeLube on the screw threads
instead. Same effect without loosening the grip of the nutplate.
As Dale suggested, socket head cap screws are a nice upgrade where they
won't be in the way. The edges of my cockpit floors, footwells and baggage
floors are installed with these, and it make screwing/unscrewing in crowded
or awkward areas much easier.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> vitez@carolina.rr.com
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:00 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
>
> Does tapping nutplates, as instructions suggest, help any? I need to
> do that next/soon, so I'm really curious whether to bother with that
> or not..
>
> Thanks!
>
> Radomir
> -7A Fuselage
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:39 pm
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> > <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> > Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the
> fuselage sides
> > to get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips bit in the
> 1/4"
> > socket wrench trick, etc
> >
> > Stormy,
> > Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric
> > screwdriveror drill? Could not be without that thing!
> > Dale Ensing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Good links from the SoCal list:
http://www.runwayfinder.com/
And
http://www.linhadafrente.net/bin/Pousos.wmv
Ouch! I cringe seeing that landing gear take that! Funny how none of these
are tailwheel aircraft.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Yes, for flush screws, like on the spinner, the cowl right behind the
spinner and inspection covers, I'm using SS torx screws. For none flush
areas, SS socket head cap screws are even more durable.
The downside is you have to keep the different sized tools handy for all
these non-typical fasteners! I have nice ratchet nutdriver that takes
different torx/hex/philips/straight bits.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Wayne Williams
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:27 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
> --> <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>
> Larry, I thought you used the Torx screws...
>
> Wayne
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Bowen
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> --> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I've carefully used the tap on only a couple nutplates. It
> seemed to take ALL the bite out of it instead of just
> breaking them in. Maybe I did it too much. Anyway, I prefer
> to use some dry BoeLube on the screw threads instead. Same
> effect without loosening the grip of the nutplate.
>
> As Dale suggested, socket head cap screws are a nice upgrade
> where they won't be in the way. The edges of my cockpit
> floors, footwells and baggage floors are installed with
> these, and it make screwing/unscrewing in crowded or awkward
> areas much easier.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> > vitez@carolina.rr.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:00 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
> >
> > Does tapping nutplates, as instructions suggest, help any?
> I need to
> > do that next/soon, so I'm really curious whether to bother
> with that
> > or not..
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Radomir
> > -7A Fuselage
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> > Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:39 pm
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trio update
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> > > <densing@carolina.rr.com>
> > > Stormy says........the edge screws are too close to the
> > fuselage sides
> > > to get on with a drill/driver, necessitating the phillips
> bit in the
> > 1/4"
> > > socket wrench trick, etc
> > >
> > > Stormy,
> > > Have you tried using one of the 6" flex drives in your electric
> > > screwdriveror drill? Could not be without that thing!
> > > Dale Ensing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Photoshare, and much much more:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | nutplates MADE EASY |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Way easier is to buy a bottle of liquid Boelube from Avery or Spruce. (4.95
I think - be sure to get liquid and not stick) One drop on the thread and
you can easily turn it in by hand. Much less drastic and easier than
tapping if I understand the question. It's like magic. Also works great as
a drill lube.
Bill S
7a Ark
fuse panel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dale
Ensing
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: nutplates
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
<densing@carolina.rr.com>
Radomir,
Another technique for preparing nutplates that I have used is a Allen head
cap screw of the proper size. The cap screws are made from a hardened
material and will open up the threads a bit without cutting into the
nutplates. Also, the recessed hex head makes it easier to use vs. a Phillips
or sloted. If I have many nutplates to do, I have chucked the round external
head of the screw into my electric drill and run it slowly into the
nutplate. It also helps to put some Moly containing lube on the capscrew.
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Re: nutplates MADE EASY |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: vitez@carolina.rr.com
Thanks everyone. Yes, I have liquid Boelube, and it's awesome.. I'll
just use that and probably one of those "alternative" screws..
shouldn't be a problem.
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Schlatterer <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: nutplates MADE EASY
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer"
> <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
> Way easier is to buy a bottle of liquid Boelube from Avery or
> Spruce. (4.95
> I think - be sure to get liquid and not stick) One drop on the
> thread and
> you can easily turn it in by hand. Much less drastic and easier than
> tapping if I understand the question. It's like magic. Also
> works great as
> a drill lube.
>
> Bill S
> 7a Ark
> fuse panel
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