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1. 03:32 AM - Re: (Bill Repucci)
2. 05:00 AM - Re: Upcoming fly ins (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
3. 09:02 AM - Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
4. 09:36 AM - Ocracoke (sportav8r@aol.com)
5. 09:46 AM - Gas prices (sportav8r@aol.com)
6. 09:50 AM - Re: Ocracoke (Larry Bowen)
7. 09:54 AM - Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race (Larry Bowen)
8. 10:49 AM - Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race (Steve Glasgow)
9. 11:01 AM - Re: Ocracoke (Steve Glasgow)
10. 12:05 PM - Re: Gas prices (Steve Glasgow)
11. 12:06 PM - Re: Gas prices (Larry Bowen)
12. 12:50 PM - Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race (Ken Harrill)
13. 01:16 PM - Re: Gas prices (Steve Glasgow)
14. 06:30 PM - Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race (Scott Keadle)
15. 06:48 PM - Re: Gas prices (Larry Bowen)
16. 07:01 PM - Re: Gas prices (Larry Bowen)
17. 07:56 PM - Re: Gas prices (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
18. 08:27 PM - Re: Ocracoke (sportav8r@aol.com)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Sounds good to me but I can't make it. That weekend is our 1st wedding
anniversary and since I want to have some more of those... Well you
know.
Bill
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Radomir Zaric
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
--> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
That sounds good.. let's work out the details sometime next week.
Radomir
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[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Sargentclt@cs.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Sargentclt@cs.com
Hey why don't you, me and Repucci et al. ride together.
Tad
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| Subject: | Upcoming fly ins |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
Most of the fly-ins are listed in magazines, others are through word of
mouth - or word of keyboard!
Ron Awad
>From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Upcoming fly ins
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:43:12 -0400
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>What is your source for all these?
>
>I try to put this on the SERV calendar as I hear about them, but I'm always
>the last to know. What do y'all think about everyone being able to edit
>the calendar? Instead of little ol' me trying to keep up with it by
>myself.....
>
>-
>Larry Bowen
>Larry@BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com/serv
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of Ron and Shannon AWAD
> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:23 AM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com; snakedoctorrv6@aol.com;
> > JBENDEL@sc.rr.com; randyberry@sc.rr.com; Bill28104@yahoo.com;
> > ebyars@carolina.rr.com; KolbFirestar@cs.com;
> > sessex@bellsouth.net; jtb1@prodigy.net; jcm2@earthlink.net;
> > PRA_Chapter_13@yahoogroups.com; peelerpilot@prodigy.net;
> > youcanfly@aol.com; montambo@hotmail.com; markscogg@aol.com;
> > N2311P@aol.com; bthigpen@carolina.rr.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Upcoming fly ins
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD"
> > --> <sawad13@msn.com>
> >
> >
> > Wondering if anyone knows when and where any of the fall
> > fly-ins are to take place....
> >
> > I have info on September fly-ins...
> >
> > the Winston Airshow on the 10th and 11th
> >
> > Asheboro aerofest at Smith airpark on the 17th and 18th
> >
> > Farmville N.C on the 24th and 25th
> >
> > October fly-ins.....
> >
> > Virginia State EAA fly-in at Dinwiddle the 1st and 2nd
> >
> > Rotors Over Carolina in Aiken S.C. the 7th through 9th
> >
> > Darlington S.C. State EAA fly-in the 8th and 9th
> >
> > Bishopville S.C. fly-in 22nd and 23rd
> >
> > Franklin N.C. Airshow/fly-in 22nd and 23rd
> >
> > Camden S.C. airshow 29th and 30th
> >
> > November fly-ins......
> >
> > Licolnton N.C. on november the 5th.
> >
> >
> > So what else am I missing??? Where is the good smaller
> > fly-ins? When is Laneys fly-in, or Stateline Ultraports
> > breakfast fly-in, or Trenton flyers fall fly-in, anything
> > going on near James Peelers place?
> >
> > I don't have anything for the weekends of September 3rd and
> > 4th, October 15th and 16th or all of November except for the
> > lincolnton fly-in.
> >
> > Gotta make plans now and REALLY hate hearing about some great
> > fly-in I missed out on cause I wasn't in the know.... Thanks
> > in advance for any replys.
> >
> >
> > Ron Awad
> >
> > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
> > Photoshare, and much much more:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race |
12:02:00 PM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
Guys: I sent this message originally to James, Len, and Ken to get some
feedback. Len suggested putting it out to the whole SERV membership.
We are mulling an idea over here in Ridgeland (3J1) about a fly-in sometime
in the spring of next year that potentially will include an air race as
part of the attraction of participating. Also, we are thinking about
holding a "prototype" race sometime late this fall to check out our
"performance index" program as well as the other parts of our "race plan".
I was wondering if I could ask you guys to review some of our ideas as a
sanity check and also from the perspective of whether or not you think our
ideas would be appealing to SERV and to the RV and experimental
communities, or for that matter, to general aviation in general.
The basic idea will be to set up 3 relatively short courses 150-200 nm
coming to Ridgeland (3J1) from the north, west, and south. Any and all GA
aircraft could participate and the winner(s) would be those with the best
"adjusted" time enroute. The idea would be to open the course at say, 0900
Saturday am and close the course to entries at 1000 or 1030. Aircraft who
make the closing time should all get to Ridgeland before noon. We are
looking for a way to attact participants over and above the usual
"hamburger/hotdog/BBQ" routine. We hope that having three courses will
make it convenient for people to participate: If you are based north of
3J1, for example, you could hopefully "race" the northern course to get to
the fly-in without having to go very much out of your way. The same would
be true from the west and south. Our idea is to conduct more of a "flying
fly-in" and less of a "static display fly-in". If we can get the indexes
for aircraft performance, course length, and weather/wind effects right, we
should be able to declare winners with confidence. A Piper Cub could
theoretically compete on an equal basis with an RV or a Turbo Lancair IV
and vice versa.
We plan on having 3 or 4 legs for each "race course" with lengths such that
a plane like an RV could complete it in an hour or so. We haven't decided
yet on how you prove overflight of each turn point, but have a couple of
good ideas. I've been in contact with the CAFE Foundation and the British
Schnieder Cup people trying to get a handle on the indexing necessary. If
any of you have a resource for that kind of information, please let me
know. I already have a "prototype" index program going together, but it
will have to be refined many times, I suspect, before we are satisfied with
it.
Do you guys think this is something the GA community would embrace? Would
you guys at CUB and nearby participate in our "prototype" race? We will
have a little sponsorship money to help put it on, but not a lot---this
will really be a volunteer effort and don't want this to be a serious
burden on anybody: Not on us putting it on, nor on anyone who elects to
participate. Fun and challenging but neither risky nor burdensome is the
idea. No one should have to stay over night---participation in the entire
event should not take more than a few hours. Everyone will be encouraged
to fly their airplane at least once during the day after they get to 3J1
too (we may have a spot landing contest to make that interesting). We'll
have hotdogs and hamburgers, of course, and have all our local airplanes on
display (including several Wacos, Stearmans, a Tiger Moth, CJ-6, Cassut
racer, gliders and ultralights, powered parachute, etc). Other
possibilities abound (swap meet, biennial check rides (we have an
instructor who says he'll do them for free), etc). Could be interesting
and a lot of fun.
What do y'all think?
Lee...
Lee Logan
Government Programs and Sales Support
Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
Savannah, Georgia
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Folks-
the Millsaps are out; family in the hurricane-affected area needs assistance and
they are heeding the call. I think Craig Gallenbach said he was cancelling
also. If so, that leaves 5 couples signed up. Does everyone have lodging at
Crews Inn, in that case? Hope so, as it would be the most convenient.
I've got my bicycles reserved and my packing list together. Wx is looking real
good last I checked.
Hoping to see the Leggetts, Barbees, Bowens, Glasgows and Boyds together sometime
on Friday!
-Stormy
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be topping off at Elizabeth
City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more southerly route might want to
verify and consider taking advantage of prices at KACZ, Wallace, NC, about 100
mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL @ $2.63/Gal. on August 21st. I'd call
to be sure, since it's not guaranteed, and it's 10 days old. Too far out of
my way, unfortunately.
-Stormy
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
What if the ramp is full? Holiday weekend...it might be. Plan B is to
fly to Manteo and rent a car and drive down?
I thought about the bikes and decided against it. If needed I'll get one
for a couple hours. If unavaible, I'll ride on Stormy's handle bars....
:)
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
sportav8r@aol.com said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Folks-
>
> the Millsaps are out; family in the hurricane-affected area needs
> assistance and they are heeding the call. I think Craig Gallenbach said
> he was cancelling also. If so, that leaves 5 couples signed up. Does
> everyone have lodging at Crews Inn, in that case? Hope so, as it would be
> the most convenient.
>
> I've got my bicycles reserved and my packing list together. Wx is looking
> real good last I checked.
>
> Hoping to see the Leggetts, Barbees, Bowens, Glasgows and Boyds together
> sometime on Friday!
>
> -Stormy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Sounds like a good idea to me.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
lee.logan@gulfstream.com said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
> Guys: I sent this message originally to James, Len, and Ken to get some
> feedback. Len suggested putting it out to the whole SERV membership.
>
> We are mulling an idea over here in Ridgeland (3J1) about a fly-in
> sometime
> in the spring of next year that potentially will include an air race as
> part of the attraction of participating. Also, we are thinking about
> holding a "prototype" race sometime late this fall to check out our
> "performance index" program as well as the other parts of our "race plan".
> I was wondering if I could ask you guys to review some of our ideas as a
> sanity check and also from the perspective of whether or not you think our
> ideas would be appealing to SERV and to the RV and experimental
> communities, or for that matter, to general aviation in general.
>
> The basic idea will be to set up 3 relatively short courses 150-200 nm
> coming to Ridgeland (3J1) from the north, west, and south. Any and all GA
> aircraft could participate and the winner(s) would be those with the best
> "adjusted" time enroute. The idea would be to open the course at say,
> 0900
> Saturday am and close the course to entries at 1000 or 1030. Aircraft who
> make the closing time should all get to Ridgeland before noon. We are
> looking for a way to attact participants over and above the usual
> "hamburger/hotdog/BBQ" routine. We hope that having three courses will
> make it convenient for people to participate: If you are based north of
> 3J1, for example, you could hopefully "race" the northern course to get to
> the fly-in without having to go very much out of your way. The same would
> be true from the west and south. Our idea is to conduct more of a "flying
> fly-in" and less of a "static display fly-in". If we can get the indexes
> for aircraft performance, course length, and weather/wind effects right,
> we
> should be able to declare winners with confidence. A Piper Cub could
> theoretically compete on an equal basis with an RV or a Turbo Lancair IV
> and vice versa.
>
> We plan on having 3 or 4 legs for each "race course" with lengths such
> that
> a plane like an RV could complete it in an hour or so. We haven't decided
> yet on how you prove overflight of each turn point, but have a couple of
> good ideas. I've been in contact with the CAFE Foundation and the British
> Schnieder Cup people trying to get a handle on the indexing necessary.
> If
> any of you have a resource for that kind of information, please let me
> know. I already have a "prototype" index program going together, but it
> will have to be refined many times, I suspect, before we are satisfied
> with
> it.
>
> Do you guys think this is something the GA community would embrace?
> Would
> you guys at CUB and nearby participate in our "prototype" race? We will
> have a little sponsorship money to help put it on, but not a lot---this
> will really be a volunteer effort and don't want this to be a serious
> burden on anybody: Not on us putting it on, nor on anyone who elects to
> participate. Fun and challenging but neither risky nor burdensome is the
> idea. No one should have to stay over night---participation in the entire
> event should not take more than a few hours. Everyone will be encouraged
> to fly their airplane at least once during the day after they get to 3J1
> too (we may have a spot landing contest to make that interesting). We'll
> have hotdogs and hamburgers, of course, and have all our local airplanes
> on
> display (including several Wacos, Stearmans, a Tiger Moth, CJ-6, Cassut
> racer, gliders and ultralights, powered parachute, etc). Other
> possibilities abound (swap meet, biennial check rides (we have an
> instructor who says he'll do them for free), etc). Could be interesting
> and a lot of fun.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> Lee...
>
> Lee Logan
> Government Programs and Sales Support
> Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
> Savannah, Georgia
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I like it.
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
----- Original Message -----
From: <lee.logan@gulfstream.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
> Guys: I sent this message originally to James, Len, and Ken to get some
> feedback. Len suggested putting it out to the whole SERV membership.
>
> We are mulling an idea over here in Ridgeland (3J1) about a fly-in
> sometime
> in the spring of next year that potentially will include an air race as
> part of the attraction of participating. Also, we are thinking about
> holding a "prototype" race sometime late this fall to check out our
> "performance index" program as well as the other parts of our "race plan".
> I was wondering if I could ask you guys to review some of our ideas as a
> sanity check and also from the perspective of whether or not you think our
> ideas would be appealing to SERV and to the RV and experimental
> communities, or for that matter, to general aviation in general.
>
> The basic idea will be to set up 3 relatively short courses 150-200 nm
> coming to Ridgeland (3J1) from the north, west, and south. Any and all GA
> aircraft could participate and the winner(s) would be those with the best
> "adjusted" time enroute. The idea would be to open the course at say,
> 0900
> Saturday am and close the course to entries at 1000 or 1030. Aircraft who
> make the closing time should all get to Ridgeland before noon. We are
> looking for a way to attact participants over and above the usual
> "hamburger/hotdog/BBQ" routine. We hope that having three courses will
> make it convenient for people to participate: If you are based north of
> 3J1, for example, you could hopefully "race" the northern course to get to
> the fly-in without having to go very much out of your way. The same would
> be true from the west and south. Our idea is to conduct more of a "flying
> fly-in" and less of a "static display fly-in". If we can get the indexes
> for aircraft performance, course length, and weather/wind effects right,
> we
> should be able to declare winners with confidence. A Piper Cub could
> theoretically compete on an equal basis with an RV or a Turbo Lancair IV
> and vice versa.
>
> We plan on having 3 or 4 legs for each "race course" with lengths such
> that
> a plane like an RV could complete it in an hour or so. We haven't decided
> yet on how you prove overflight of each turn point, but have a couple of
> good ideas. I've been in contact with the CAFE Foundation and the British
> Schnieder Cup people trying to get a handle on the indexing necessary.
> If
> any of you have a resource for that kind of information, please let me
> know. I already have a "prototype" index program going together, but it
> will have to be refined many times, I suspect, before we are satisfied
> with
> it.
>
> Do you guys think this is something the GA community would embrace?
> Would
> you guys at CUB and nearby participate in our "prototype" race? We will
> have a little sponsorship money to help put it on, but not a lot---this
> will really be a volunteer effort and don't want this to be a serious
> burden on anybody: Not on us putting it on, nor on anyone who elects to
> participate. Fun and challenging but neither risky nor burdensome is the
> idea. No one should have to stay over night---participation in the entire
> event should not take more than a few hours. Everyone will be encouraged
> to fly their airplane at least once during the day after they get to 3J1
> too (we may have a spot landing contest to make that interesting). We'll
> have hotdogs and hamburgers, of course, and have all our local airplanes
> on
> display (including several Wacos, Stearmans, a Tiger Moth, CJ-6, Cassut
> racer, gliders and ultralights, powered parachute, etc). Other
> possibilities abound (swap meet, biennial check rides (we have an
> instructor who says he'll do them for free), etc). Could be interesting
> and a lot of fun.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> Lee...
>
> Lee Logan
> Government Programs and Sales Support
> Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
> Savannah, Georgia
>
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>
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> contain confidential/proprietary information. Unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure, or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> recipient, advise by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original
> message.
> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Good reason to get there early rather than later.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Ocracoke
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> What if the ramp is full? Holiday weekend...it might be. Plan B is to
> fly to Manteo and rent a car and drive down?
>
> I thought about the bikes and decided against it. If needed I'll get one
> for a couple hours. If unavaible, I'll ride on Stormy's handle bars....
> :)
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> sportav8r@aol.com said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>
>> Folks-
>>
>> the Millsaps are out; family in the hurricane-affected area needs
>> assistance and they are heeding the call. I think Craig Gallenbach said
>> he was cancelling also. If so, that leaves 5 couples signed up. Does
>> everyone have lodging at Crews Inn, in that case? Hope so, as it would
>> be
>> the most convenient.
>>
>> I've got my bicycles reserved and my packing list together. Wx is
>> looking
>> real good last I checked.
>>
>> Hoping to see the Leggetts, Barbees, Bowens, Glasgows and Boyds together
>> sometime on Friday!
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I just called, the price at KACZ is now $3.12 and will be that thru next
week.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be topping off at
> Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more southerly route
> might want to verify and consider taking advantage of prices at KACZ,
> Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL @ $2.63/Gal.
> on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not guaranteed, and it's
> 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Last time Cherry Point cleared a couple of us through R5306A. Assuming
that, would it help with your route?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
sportav8r@aol.com said:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be topping off at
> Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more southerly route
> might want to verify and consider taking advantage of prices at KACZ,
> Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL @ $2.63/Gal.
> on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not guaranteed, and it's
> 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
>
> -Stormy
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Ken Harrill <rkharr@gmail.com>
Lee,
I think it would go over very well and I KNOW those of us at KCUB would
participate and support in any way we can. More flying is definitely what we
need. And an air race would be very cool! If you haven't already, check out
the "Cow country to Carolinas" air race Sept 21-29 at
www.us-airrace.org<http://www.us-airrace.org>
.
Ken Harrill
On 8/31/05, lee.logan@gulfstream.com <lee.logan@gulfstream.com> wrote:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
> Guys: I sent this message originally to James, Len, and Ken to get some
> feedback. Len suggested putting it out to the whole SERV membership.
>
> We are mulling an idea over here in Ridgeland (3J1) about a fly-in
> sometime
> in the spring of next year that potentially will include an air race as
> part of the attraction of participating. Also, we are thinking about
> holding a "prototype" race sometime late this fall to check out our
> "performance index" program as well as the other parts of our "race plan".
> I was wondering if I could ask you guys to review some of our ideas as a
> sanity check and also from the perspective of whether or not you think our
> ideas would be appealing to SERV and to the RV and experimental
> communities, or for that matter, to general aviation in general.
>
> The basic idea will be to set up 3 relatively short courses 150-200 nm
> coming to Ridgeland (3J1) from the north, west, and south. Any and all GA
> aircraft could participate and the winner(s) would be those with the best
> "adjusted" time enroute. The idea would be to open the course at say, 0900
> Saturday am and close the course to entries at 1000 or 1030. Aircraft who
> make the closing time should all get to Ridgeland before noon. We are
> looking for a way to attact participants over and above the usual
> "hamburger/hotdog/BBQ" routine. We hope that having three courses will
> make it convenient for people to participate: If you are based north of
> 3J1, for example, you could hopefully "race" the northern course to get to
> the fly-in without having to go very much out of your way. The same would
> be true from the west and south. Our idea is to conduct more of a "flying
> fly-in" and less of a "static display fly-in". If we can get the indexes
> for aircraft performance, course length, and weather/wind effects right,
> we
> should be able to declare winners with confidence. A Piper Cub could
> theoretically compete on an equal basis with an RV or a Turbo Lancair IV
> and vice versa.
>
> We plan on having 3 or 4 legs for each "race course" with lengths such
> that
> a plane like an RV could complete it in an hour or so. We haven't decided
> yet on how you prove overflight of each turn point, but have a couple of
> good ideas. I've been in contact with the CAFE Foundation and the British
> Schnieder Cup people trying to get a handle on the indexing necessary. If
> any of you have a resource for that kind of information, please let me
> know. I already have a "prototype" index program going together, but it
> will have to be refined many times, I suspect, before we are satisfied
> with
> it.
>
> Do you guys think this is something the GA community would embrace? Would
> you guys at CUB and nearby participate in our "prototype" race? We will
> have a little sponsorship money to help put it on, but not a lot---this
> will really be a volunteer effort and don't want this to be a serious
> burden on anybody: Not on us putting it on, nor on anyone who elects to
> participate. Fun and challenging but neither risky nor burdensome is the
> idea. No one should have to stay over night---participation in the entire
> event should not take more than a few hours. Everyone will be encouraged
> to fly their airplane at least once during the day after they get to 3J1
> too (we may have a spot landing contest to make that interesting). We'll
> have hotdogs and hamburgers, of course, and have all our local airplanes
> on
> display (including several Wacos, Stearmans, a Tiger Moth, CJ-6, Cassut
> racer, gliders and ultralights, powered parachute, etc). Other
> possibilities abound (swap meet, biennial check rides (we have an
> instructor who says he'll do them for free), etc). Could be interesting
> and a lot of fun.
>
> What do y'all think?
>
> Lee...
>
> Lee Logan
> Government Programs and Sales Support
> Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
> Savannah, Georgia
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
It would help some but not a lot. I plan to fly over with full tanks and
then stop at KACZ on the way back. Also planning on leaving around 11 AM.
Perhaps all those staying at the Crews Inn should exchange cell phone
numbers. Mine is below.
Steve Glasgow
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884 Cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Last time Cherry Point cleared a couple of us through R5306A. Assuming
> that, would it help with your route?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> sportav8r@aol.com said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>
>> Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be topping off at
>> Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more southerly route
>> might want to verify and consider taking advantage of prices at KACZ,
>> Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL @ $2.63/Gal.
>> on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not guaranteed, and it's
>> 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Ridgeland Fly-In/Air Race |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Scott Keadle" <Scott@Keadle.com>
Sounds fun to me.
Scott Keadle
...
> What do y'all think?
>
> Lee...
>
> Lee Logan
> Government Programs and Sales Support
> Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
> Savannah, Georgia
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Sadly, that's a good price. I paid $3.33 at Stanley Co./VUJ this evening.
The new bulk/discounted rate at 8A7 is $3.55...$3.85 retail. This could get
ugly....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:05 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> I just called, the price at KACZ is now $3.12 and will be
> that thru next week.
>
> Steve Glasgow
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
>
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
> >
> > Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be
> topping off at
> > Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more
> southerly route
> > might want to verify and consider taking advantage of
> prices at KACZ,
> > Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL
> @ $2.63/Gal.
> > on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not
> guaranteed, and it's
> > 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Sounds like a good plan.
-
Larry Bowen
336-918-1474
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> It would help some but not a lot. I plan to fly over with
> full tanks and then stop at KACZ on the way back. Also
> planning on leaving around 11 AM.
> Perhaps all those staying at the Crews Inn should exchange
> cell phone numbers. Mine is below.
>
> Steve Glasgow
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884 Cell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
>
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> > Last time Cherry Point cleared a couple of us through
> R5306A. Assuming
> > that, would it help with your route?
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > sportav8r@aol.com said:
> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
> >>
> >> Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be
> topping off at
> >> Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more
> southerly route
> >> might want to verify and consider taking advantage of
> prices at KACZ,
> >> Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed
> 100LL @ $2.63/Gal.
> >> on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not
> guaranteed, and it's
> >> 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
> >>
> >> -Stormy
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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0.00 ADVANCE_FEE_1 Appears to be advance fee fraud (Nigerian 419)
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
I would brag about how I am saving so much money since I use nothing but 93
Octance car gas in my 4, but after sitting in a long line for gas tonight to
fill up the car and some jerry cans, It looks like Av-Gas is cheaper than
mo-gas right now.
Anyone want to buy a nice RV-4? I will trade for a glider... :)
Ron Awad
>From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
>Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:48:12 -0400
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
>Sadly, that's a good price. I paid $3.33 at Stanley Co./VUJ this evening.
>The new bulk/discounted rate at 8A7 is $3.55...$3.85 retail. This could
>get
>ugly....
>
>-
>Larry Bowen
>Larry@BowenAero.com
>http://BowenAero.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of Steve Glasgow
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:05 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> > I just called, the price at KACZ is now $3.12 and will be
> > that thru next week.
> >
> > Steve Glasgow
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
> > To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Gas prices
> >
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
> > >
> > > Just checked AirNav for fuel prices; looks like I'll be
> > topping off at
> > > Elizabeth City for some $3.24 100LL. Those taking a more
> > southerly route
> > > might want to verify and consider taking advantage of
> > prices at KACZ,
> > > Wallace, NC, about 100 mi W of Ocracoke. They showed 100LL
> > @ $2.63/Gal.
> > > on August 21st. I'd call to be sure, since it's not
> > guaranteed, and it's
> > > 10 days old. Too far out of my way, unfortunately.
> > >
> > > -Stormy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Excellent point, Steve. That's a worry. Maybe it's not naive to expect the biggest
influx would be Saturday, but how to be sure? Driving a rental down from
Manteo would really be a disatant second choice for me!
Larry, how do you plan to get around down there for 4 days without a bike - rent
a scooter instead?
Most of it is walkable, but Howards is a good hike from Silver Bay.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Ocracoke
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Good reason to get there early rather than later.
Steve Glasgow
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Ocracoke
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> What if the ramp is full? Holiday weekend...it might be. Plan B is to
> fly to Manteo and rent a car and drive down?
>
> I thought about the bikes and decided against it. If needed I'll get one
> for a couple hours. If unavaible, I'll ride on Stormy's handle bars....
> :)
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> sportav8r@aol.com said:
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>
>> Folks-
>>
>> the Millsaps are out; family in the hurricane-affected area needs
>> assistance and they are heeding the call. I think Craig Gallenbach said
>> he was cancelling also. If so, that leaves 5 couples signed up. Does
>> everyone have lodging at Crews Inn, in that case? Hope so, as it would
>> be
>> the most convenient.
>>
>> I've got my bicycles reserved and my packing list together. Wx is
>> looking
>> real good last I checked.
>>
>> Hoping to see the Leggetts, Barbees, Bowens, Glasgows and Boyds together
>> sometime on Friday!
>>
>> -Stormy
>>
>>
>
>
>
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