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1. 01:36 AM - Re: Packin' Heat (Steve Glasgow)
2. 05:27 AM - Re: Packin' Heat (sportav8r@aol.com)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Packin' Heat (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: Packin' Heat (sportav8r@aol.com)
5. 05:43 AM - idle hands (Carter Wright)
6. 05:46 AM - Re: idle hands (Lenleg@aol.com)
7. 06:26 AM - Re: idle hands (Carter Wright)
8. 06:30 AM - Re: idle hands (Lenleg@aol.com)
9. 07:04 AM - Re: Packin' Heat (sportav8r@aol.com)
10. 07:27 AM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (sportav8r@aol.com)
11. 07:41 AM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (Lenleg@aol.com)
12. 08:21 AM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (sportav8r@aol.com)
13. 08:21 AM - Re: idle hands (Bill Repucci)
14. 10:19 AM - He Said, She Said... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
15. 10:29 AM - Re: idle hands (Carter Wright)
16. 12:15 PM - Re: Packin' Heat (Charlie England)
17. 01:04 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (bill crothers)
18. 02:28 PM - Re: Dynon news (Larry Bowen)
19. 03:49 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
20. 04:10 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (RGray67968@aol.com)
21. 04:11 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (Lenleg@aol.com)
22. 04:27 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (bill crothers)
23. 06:39 PM - Re: Dynon news (Demeylor@aol.com)
24. 07:40 PM - Re: Texas Formation Trip (James Clark)
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
The voice sounds like Len but the rest is Stormy.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Who does this remind you of?
>
> http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Factual correction: Don't Ruger or nob
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
The voice sounds like Len but the rest is Stormy.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Who does this remind you of?
>
> http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/21/2005 10:22:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Larry@bowenaero.com writes:
Who does this remind you of?
That was absolutely great .... way to go Stormy !!!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Okay, let's see if I can get through this without my laptop sending it in mid-sentence.
Only happens half the time. Dude, it's a Dell...
Factual correction: don't Ruger or nobody else make a .22 that will penetrate no
body armor, lessen it's the kind worn by kids playing AirSoft! Even .357 and
.45 are questionable in that regard "at 27 feet."
Didn't want anybody in SERV going off half-cocked and thinking they were invincible
thus armed.
/Good thing nobody among the 9/11 flight crews had a gun, or passengers might have
gotten hurt.../ Pelosi, Schumer, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein
Y'all be good!
-Stormy out
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
The voice sounds like Len but the rest is Stormy.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Who does this remind you of?
>
> http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> Do not archive
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>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" <cartaire@hotmail.com>
Good Morning listers;
Carter Wright here, -8 wannabe, looking for some building experience
Living in Winston Salem, and staying in town for the Thanksgiving week (on
call) while the family is off with the in-laws.
Soooo...
is there anyone in the neighborhood who could use a little help in the shop?
I'm new, but not bad.
no job too small, Carter
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/22/2005 8:44:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cartaire@hotmail.com writes:
Good Morning listers;
Carter Wright here, -8 wannabe, looking for some building experience
Living in Winston Salem, and staying in town for the Thanksgiving week (on
call) while the family is off with the in-laws.
What is the latest on your move to Houston ???
Len
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" <cartaire@hotmail.com>
Houston is on.
We'll be moving next June/July. Took a position in the Texas Medical Center
at the Texas Voice Center.
Hopefully this will be the last move for a little while.
Carter
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/22/2005 9:27:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cartaire@hotmail.com writes:
Houston is on.
We'll be moving next June/July. Took a position in the Texas Medical Center
at the Texas Voice Center.
Hopefully this will be the last move for a little while.
Carter
Congrats !!! Sorry to see you leave NC so soon though !!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Do I take it, then, that I have developed, for want of a better word, a reputation?
Reckon I'd fit right in in Texas, right, Len?
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: BOB MARTIN <libertyva@msn.com>
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB MARTIN" <libertyva@msn.com>
Stormy???????......my best guess
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen<mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com>
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com<mailto:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:18 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Packin' Heat
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com<mailto:Larry@BowenAero.com>>
Who does this remind you of?
http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm<http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm>
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com<mailto:Larry@BowenAero.com>
http://BowenAero.com<http://bowenaero.com/>
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and back, excluding the formation training?
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Great report Len.
Just a FEW comments
<<SNIP>>
>
>
> Landed at DCU to Bill's smiling face ... with the rest of Palmetto Flight
> only 15 - 20 minutes out. We all refueled ... 2.99 guaranteed price !!
It was nice talking to you as you were crossing the mountains and figuring
we were only 10 minutes behind you.
We launched from DCU headed to Warren, Arkansas (3M9) as a flight of 4. A
> flight of about 1 1/2 hours. The mayor of Warren would meet us at the
> field
> to open the gas tanks and give us a ride to lunch. With that kind of
> reception we had to make a nice approach !! He picked us up and took us
> into town
I must say, this is the FIRST time I have been greeted by the Mayor ...just
for showing up to buy a little gas!! Cool!!
for lunch at the local hot spot. The owner of a Baron and the local bank
> also
> played taxicab for us. Nice stop and again 2.99 fuel !!
You forgot the best part ... " ... we don't take credit cards, just put your
name and amount down here and we will send you a bill...". By the way they
say they have NEVER been stiffed. Way cool.
Last stop ... Gainesville, Texas (GLE) just about 40 miles north of Dallas.
> I must tell you it was a thrill to see DFW on my GPS !!! This flight was
> also about 1 1/2 hours ... we made a nice arrival pass for the gathered
> crowd
> ... smoke on and in diamond formation.
Len you now make us look **really** good on arrivals. That smoke really does
the job. I ended up in a three-ship formation doing a pass and I was the
only one WITHOUT smoke. Hmmmmmm....
After all day of flying we were immediately herded into a 3 hour formation
> class. Then out for dinner and beer with all the attendees ... 16 planes
> in
> all. Guys from Park City, Utah .. Nashville, Tn ... Cincinnati, Oh ...
>
> Stu McCurdy ... FFI, Inc founder and formation Guru ... ex Air Force jock
> ..
> was the instructor for the clinic. Famous words are "Be at your planes
> gentlemen at 0800" ... we won't wait for you. Four flights with different
> leads
> and planes all day Saturday ... real workout .. but I learned a lot ...
> especially the rejoins (which are hard !!). Most fun I had that day was in
> a four
> ship in loose trail ... we were screaming up and down in semi hammer heads
> ... just one right after the other as if in a dog fight ... FUN !!!
>
> Dinner that night and lots more beer. A beautiful movie on an RV trip out
> west taken by Stu and some of the guys from Team RV ... I have requested a
> copy of the CD from Mike Stewart ... we have to show this to you ... you
> will
> want to make the trip !!!
>
> Up early to questionable weather in the East on Sunday morning ... we
> launched with the exact same flight plan as before ... just reversing the
> stops.
> Got to Decatur before we had to make a decision whether to try to make it
> home. We launched for Anderson, SC at 2500' and would go as far as we
> could.
Ken did a fine job of leading us through the worst stuff. "... stay with me
... don't turn back on me ... I WON"T leave you ... "
James was quick to point out all the towers on the hills at 12:00 o'clock
> ...
> luckily we missed them all. Visibility was great though and we made
> Anderson
An interesting thing about flying in formation (flight of four) ... You have
AT LEAST one set of eyes looking straight ahead, one set looking to the left
and one set looking to the right. We even had a spare set looking around.
Stuff gets spotted a LOT quicker.
with no trouble. We all decided to split up at that point and head on home.
> Everyone made it with James and Ken having the worst weather to avoid but
> James had borrowed a friends Garmin 396 and now has one on order for
> himself.
What do you mean on order??? I now have that toy in my grubby little paws!!!
(Thanks for the help Patty)
Maybe we can get James to do a product review for us since he got some real
> time weather use out of it.
Summary: You gonna want one of these!
I have used XM Weather before on another product. It too is great.
The main thing about having weather info in the cockpit, you can tell where
the REALLY bad stuff is. You can tell if all is OK with you where you are
then you can **probably** procede. This stuff does not necessarily tell you
where TO go (the suppliers specifically warn AGAINST that), it can tell you
where NOT to go.
As we were travelling along the foothills, I could tell there was BAD STUFF
over Atlanta. No we were not planning to go there but it was clear to me we
could NOT.
When Ken and I were headed to Columbia, we first set KGRD (Greenwood) as the
target alternative with a decision to be made as we got there, then 27J
(Newberry). I could tell that we were NOT going to make it approaching from
the south. We would have to appraoch from the north or south as KCAE was
reporting IFR and direct meant directly through their airspace. Where we
were was VFR (though not a whole lot) and the airports to the north side we
VFR. That meant if we went north and the weather got worse (which was
expected, we had plenty places were we could land and get a car.
If you have a Garmin product already (handheld) you already know how to use
it. Weather is just another feature with more pages and overlays (an oh, one
more antenna .. a puck).
Now for the biggest surprise for me ... I REALLY liked having the XM Radio
there. Nancy wanted to hear a little Gospel (after all it WAS Sunday) and
then a little Classical (she used to play some stringed instrument) and
finally a bit of Reggae (actually a LOT). Can you say "we be jammin' in the
air mon". For a while the plane was a-rocking.
Color Map shows you where you are headed
Weather shows you where not to go and if you can get there
Tunes make it all nice.
A more detailed commentary later. By the way, the unit I have will have the
full package and thus winds aloft. So on a long trip like this if you can
find a 15 knot difference (or let's say 10 knots each way) you have paid for
the extra $20/month charge for the Aviator Package vs the Aviator Lite (no
winds aloft). <<It shows what the winds are wherer you are and you can
select the standard altitudes to look at.>>
Good time had by all.
Closing note: We've gotta get in some practice!
James
Great trip ... who would believe you can make a trip to Dallas, Texas for
> the weekend ... only in an RV !!! Total flying time for me was 16 hours
> which
> included all the formation flights.
>
> Man I love these planes.
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 408 hrs
>
>
> ,
>
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/22/2005 10:28:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sportav8r@aol.com writes:
Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and back, excluding the formation
training?
-Stormy
12 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Shucks, a mere day-trip ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/22/2005 10:28:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sportav8r@aol.com writes:
Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and back, excluding the formation
training?
-Stormy
12 hrs
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci" <bill@repucci.com>
Carter,
I'm located in Huntersville, an easy hour drive away, and you are
welcome to stop by. What I've done in the past for prospective builders
is to give them an hour or four of talking and tool demo's. Everything
from drilling to dimpling to countersinking, etc. If you order the
tool box kit from Van's we can put that thing together while you are
here.
Bill
RV-9 (about to start the finishing kit, if I ever stop trashing fuel
lines.)
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carter
Wright
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: idle hands
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright"
--> <cartaire@hotmail.com>
Good Morning listers;
Carter Wright here, -8 wannabe, looking for some building experience
Living in Winston Salem, and staying in town for the Thanksgiving week
(on
call) while the family is off with the in-laws.
Soooo...
is there anyone in the neighborhood who could use a little help in the
shop?
I'm new, but not bad.
no job too small, Carter
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" <cartaire@hotmail.com>
thanks Bill. I'll contact you off list to arrange a visit. Carter
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| Subject: | Re: Packin' Heat |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
>Okay, let's see if I can get through this without my laptop sending it in mid-sentence.
Only happens half the time. Dude, it's a Dell...
>
>Factual correction: don't Ruger or nobody else make a .22 that will penetrate
no body armor, lessen it's the kind worn by kids playing AirSoft! Even .357 and
.45 are questionable in that regard "at 27 feet."
>
>Didn't want anybody in SERV going off half-cocked and thinking they were invincible
thus armed.
>
>/Good thing nobody among the 9/11 flight crews had a gun, or passengers might
have gotten hurt.../ Pelosi, Schumer, Kennedy, Boxer, Feinstein
>
>Y'all be good!
>
>-Stormy out
>
The glaring omission from that list is the name of the guy who has done
everything he can to prevent flight crews being armed in the future: G W
Bush (actually, his handlers).
If you believe that it's only the 'liberals' that are out to get you,
you haven't been paying enough attention to the news.
Charlie
card carrying Pragmatist
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
11.5-12 hrs.
--- sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and back,
> excluding the formation training?
>
> -Stormy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark
> <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
>
> Great report Len.
>
> Just a FEW comments
>
> <<SNIP>>
> >
> >
> > Landed at DCU to Bill's smiling face ... with the
> rest of Palmetto Flight
> > only 15 - 20 minutes out. We all refueled ... 2.99
> guaranteed price !!
>
>
> It was nice talking to you as you were crossing the
> mountains and figuring
> we were only 10 minutes behind you.
>
> We launched from DCU headed to Warren, Arkansas
> (3M9) as a flight of 4. A
> > flight of about 1 1/2 hours. The mayor of Warren
> would meet us at the
> > field
> > to open the gas tanks and give us a ride to lunch.
> With that kind of
> > reception we had to make a nice approach !! He
> picked us up and took us
> > into town
>
>
> I must say, this is the FIRST time I have been
> greeted by the Mayor ...just
> for showing up to buy a little gas!! Cool!!
>
>
> for lunch at the local hot spot. The owner of a
> Baron and the local bank
> > also
> > played taxicab for us. Nice stop and again 2.99
> fuel !!
>
>
> You forgot the best part ... " ... we don't take
> credit cards, just put your
> name and amount down here and we will send you a
> bill...". By the way they
> say they have NEVER been stiffed. Way cool.
>
> Last stop ... Gainesville, Texas (GLE) just about 40
> miles north of Dallas.
> > I must tell you it was a thrill to see DFW on my
> GPS !!! This flight was
> > also about 1 1/2 hours ... we made a nice arrival
> pass for the gathered
> > crowd
> > ... smoke on and in diamond formation.
>
>
> Len you now make us look **really** good on
> arrivals. That smoke really does
> the job. I ended up in a three-ship formation doing
> a pass and I was the
> only one WITHOUT smoke. Hmmmmmm....
>
> After all day of flying we were immediately herded
> into a 3 hour formation
> > class. Then out for dinner and beer with all the
> attendees ... 16 planes
> > in
> > all. Guys from Park City, Utah .. Nashville, Tn
> ... Cincinnati, Oh ...
> >
> > Stu McCurdy ... FFI, Inc founder and formation
> Guru ... ex Air Force jock
> > ..
> > was the instructor for the clinic. Famous words
> are "Be at your planes
> > gentlemen at 0800" ... we won't wait for you. Four
> flights with different
> > leads
> > and planes all day Saturday ... real workout ..
> but I learned a lot ...
> > especially the rejoins (which are hard !!). Most
> fun I had that day was in
> > a four
> > ship in loose trail ... we were screaming up and
> down in semi hammer heads
> > ... just one right after the other as if in a dog
> fight ... FUN !!!
> >
> > Dinner that night and lots more beer. A beautiful
> movie on an RV trip out
> > west taken by Stu and some of the guys from Team
> RV ... I have requested a
> > copy of the CD from Mike Stewart ... we have to
> show this to you ... you
> > will
> > want to make the trip !!!
> >
> > Up early to questionable weather in the East on
> Sunday morning ... we
> > launched with the exact same flight plan as before
> ... just reversing the
> > stops.
> > Got to Decatur before we had to make a decision
> whether to try to make it
> > home. We launched for Anderson, SC at 2500' and
> would go as far as we
> > could.
>
>
> Ken did a fine job of leading us through the worst
> stuff. "... stay with me
> ... don't turn back on me ... I WON"T leave you ...
> "
>
> James was quick to point out all the towers on the
> hills at 12:00 o'clock
> > ...
> > luckily we missed them all. Visibility was great
> though and we made
> > Anderson
>
>
> An interesting thing about flying in formation
> (flight of four) ... You have
> AT LEAST one set of eyes looking straight ahead, one
> set looking to the left
> and one set looking to the right. We even had a
> spare set looking around.
> Stuff gets spotted a LOT quicker.
>
> with no trouble. We all decided to split up at that
> point and head on home.
> > Everyone made it with James and Ken having the
> worst weather to avoid but
> > James had borrowed a friends Garmin 396 and now
> has one on order for
> > himself.
>
>
> What do you mean on order??? I now have that toy in
> my grubby little paws!!!
> (Thanks for the help Patty)
>
> Maybe we can get James to do a product review for us
> since he got some real
> > time weather use out of it.
>
>
> Summary: You gonna want one of these!
>
> I have used XM Weather before on another product. It
> too is great.
>
> The main thing about having weather info in the
> cockpit, you can tell where
> the REALLY bad stuff is. You can tell if all is OK
> with you where you are
> then you can **probably** procede. This stuff does
> not necessarily tell you
> where TO go (the suppliers specifically warn AGAINST
> that), it can tell you
> where NOT to go.
>
> As we were travelling along the foothills, I could
> tell there was BAD STUFF
> over Atlanta. No we were not planning to go there
> but it was clear to me we
> could NOT.
>
> When Ken and I were headed to Columbia, we first set
> KGRD (Greenwood) as the
> target alternative with a decision to be made as we
> got there, then 27J
> (Newberry). I could tell that we were NOT going to
> make it approaching from
> the south. We would have to appraoch from the north
> or south as KCAE was
> reporting IFR and direct meant directly through
> their airspace. Where we
> were was VFR (though not a whole lot) and the
> airports to the north side we
> VFR. That meant if we went north and the weather got
> worse (which was
>
=== message truncated ===
__________________________________
http://farechase.yahoo.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Sounds real nice!! I'm still happy with my D10A. If I had to do it again
I'd stay with the Dynon products. Best all-around value, IMO.
Have fun running wires!! I was very intimidated by all those electrons &
schematics in the beginning, but Wayne 8A and Len showed me the way. In the
end, I enjoyed it and still like making little 'maintenance' changes to my
plane's wiring. Improved cabin/panel night-lighting is in progress now!!
Cheers,
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez@carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:57 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Dynon news
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
> --> <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Unless something completely new comes on market in next 6
> months or so, looks like it's going to be Dynon D-100 in
> front of me, and Dynon EMS-120 on the other side. In between
> those two will be ICOM 200 (just got it the other day) and
> GTX-327... and some GPS (maybe a 296? w/ AirGizmo mount)...
>
> Love those big screens :)
>
> PS. I'd probably prefer GRT Sport as primary display, but
> two Dynons cross-feeding each other with split screens gives
> them a slight advantage.
>
> Radomir
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Bowen
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Dynon news
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> --> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Nice.
>
> What's your panel going to be like? You must be getting
> close to having to finalize those decisions.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
12 times 7 per hour = 84 time 4.00$ per gallon = 336.00$ cheaper than US
air!
Ron Awad
>From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
>Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:04:24 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>11.5-12 hrs.
>
>--- sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> > sportav8r@aol.com
> >
> > Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and back,
> > excluding the formation training?
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
> >
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark
> > <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> >
> > Great report Len.
> >
> > Just a FEW comments
> >
> > <<SNIP>>
> > >
> > >
> > > Landed at DCU to Bill's smiling face ... with the
> > rest of Palmetto Flight
> > > only 15 - 20 minutes out. We all refueled ... 2.99
> > guaranteed price !!
> >
> >
> > It was nice talking to you as you were crossing the
> > mountains and figuring
> > we were only 10 minutes behind you.
> >
> > We launched from DCU headed to Warren, Arkansas
> > (3M9) as a flight of 4. A
> > > flight of about 1 1/2 hours. The mayor of Warren
> > would meet us at the
> > > field
> > > to open the gas tanks and give us a ride to lunch.
> > With that kind of
> > > reception we had to make a nice approach !! He
> > picked us up and took us
> > > into town
> >
> >
> > I must say, this is the FIRST time I have been
> > greeted by the Mayor ...just
> > for showing up to buy a little gas!! Cool!!
> >
> >
> > for lunch at the local hot spot. The owner of a
> > Baron and the local bank
> > > also
> > > played taxicab for us. Nice stop and again 2.99
> > fuel !!
> >
> >
> > You forgot the best part ... " ... we don't take
> > credit cards, just put your
> > name and amount down here and we will send you a
> > bill...". By the way they
> > say they have NEVER been stiffed. Way cool.
> >
> > Last stop ... Gainesville, Texas (GLE) just about 40
> > miles north of Dallas.
> > > I must tell you it was a thrill to see DFW on my
> > GPS !!! This flight was
> > > also about 1 1/2 hours ... we made a nice arrival
> > pass for the gathered
> > > crowd
> > > ... smoke on and in diamond formation.
> >
> >
> > Len you now make us look **really** good on
> > arrivals. That smoke really does
> > the job. I ended up in a three-ship formation doing
> > a pass and I was the
> > only one WITHOUT smoke. Hmmmmmm....
> >
> > After all day of flying we were immediately herded
> > into a 3 hour formation
> > > class. Then out for dinner and beer with all the
> > attendees ... 16 planes
> > > in
> > > all. Guys from Park City, Utah .. Nashville, Tn
> > ... Cincinnati, Oh ...
> > >
> > > Stu McCurdy ... FFI, Inc founder and formation
> > Guru ... ex Air Force jock
> > > ..
> > > was the instructor for the clinic. Famous words
> > are "Be at your planes
> > > gentlemen at 0800" ... we won't wait for you. Four
> > flights with different
> > > leads
> > > and planes all day Saturday ... real workout ..
> > but I learned a lot ...
> > > especially the rejoins (which are hard !!). Most
> > fun I had that day was in
> > > a four
> > > ship in loose trail ... we were screaming up and
> > down in semi hammer heads
> > > ... just one right after the other as if in a dog
> > fight ... FUN !!!
> > >
> > > Dinner that night and lots more beer. A beautiful
> > movie on an RV trip out
> > > west taken by Stu and some of the guys from Team
> > RV ... I have requested a
> > > copy of the CD from Mike Stewart ... we have to
> > show this to you ... you
> > > will
> > > want to make the trip !!!
> > >
> > > Up early to questionable weather in the East on
> > Sunday morning ... we
> > > launched with the exact same flight plan as before
> > ... just reversing the
> > > stops.
> > > Got to Decatur before we had to make a decision
> > whether to try to make it
> > > home. We launched for Anderson, SC at 2500' and
> > would go as far as we
> > > could.
> >
> >
> > Ken did a fine job of leading us through the worst
> > stuff. "... stay with me
> > ... don't turn back on me ... I WON"T leave you ...
> > "
> >
> > James was quick to point out all the towers on the
> > hills at 12:00 o'clock
> > > ...
> > > luckily we missed them all. Visibility was great
> > though and we made
> > > Anderson
> >
> >
> > An interesting thing about flying in formation
> > (flight of four) ... You have
> > AT LEAST one set of eyes looking straight ahead, one
> > set looking to the left
> > and one set looking to the right. We even had a
> > spare set looking around.
> > Stuff gets spotted a LOT quicker.
> >
> > with no trouble. We all decided to split up at that
> > point and head on home.
> > > Everyone made it with James and Ken having the
> > worst weather to avoid but
> > > James had borrowed a friends Garmin 396 and now
> > has one on order for
> > > himself.
> >
> >
> > What do you mean on order??? I now have that toy in
> > my grubby little paws!!!
> > (Thanks for the help Patty)
> >
> > Maybe we can get James to do a product review for us
> > since he got some real
> > > time weather use out of it.
> >
> >
> > Summary: You gonna want one of these!
> >
> > I have used XM Weather before on another product. It
> > too is great.
> >
> > The main thing about having weather info in the
> > cockpit, you can tell where
> > the REALLY bad stuff is. You can tell if all is OK
> > with you where you are
> > then you can **probably** procede. This stuff does
> > not necessarily tell you
> > where TO go (the suppliers specifically warn AGAINST
> > that), it can tell you
> > where NOT to go.
> >
> > As we were travelling along the foothills, I could
> > tell there was BAD STUFF
> > over Atlanta. No we were not planning to go there
> > but it was clear to me we
> > could NOT.
> >
> > When Ken and I were headed to Columbia, we first set
> > KGRD (Greenwood) as the
> > target alternative with a decision to be made as we
> > got there, then 27J
> > (Newberry). I could tell that we were NOT going to
> > make it approaching from
> > the south. We would have to appraoch from the north
> > or south as KCAE was
> > reporting IFR and direct meant directly through
> > their airspace. Where we
> > were was VFR (though not a whole lot) and the
> > airports to the north side we
> > VFR. That meant if we went north and the weather got
> > worse (which was
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://farechase.yahoo.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
OK....we know how long it took to get there and we know all about the
396.....what we really want to know is:
Do we have any new FFI Wingmen??
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - RV6 Sold, RV8 Project Completed, RV10 and
F1 Rocket Under Construction!!
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/22/2005 6:50:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sawad13@msn.com writes:
12 times 7 per hour = 84 time 4.00$ per gallon = 336.00$ cheaper than US
air!
Ron Awad
I think we all decided during fill ups that we were averaging in the 9 gph
range ... even Bill in the 150 hp -4 ... but he was running 2550 rpm ...
12 times 9 per hour = 108 times $2.99 per gallon at all stops = $324 ...
getting cheaper !!!
Really was a blast !!
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
trouble is..burned 9.5 gph at 2550 keeping up w/
boys, at least fuel was $3 bucks everywhere, not 4.
bill
--- Ron and Shannon AWAD <sawad13@msn.com> wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and
> Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
>
> 12 times 7 per hour = 84 time 4.00$ per gallon > 336.00$ cheaper than US
> air!
>
>
> Ron Awad
>
>
> >From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation Trip
> >Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:04:24 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill
> crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >
> >11.5-12 hrs.
> >
> >--- sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> > > sportav8r@aol.com
> > >
> > > Guys- what was the total flying time to TX and
> back,
> > > excluding the formation training?
> > >
> > > -Stormy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Texas Formation
> Trip
> > >
> > >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James
> Clark
> > > <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Great report Len.
> > >
> > > Just a FEW comments
> > >
> > > <<SNIP>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Landed at DCU to Bill's smiling face ... with
> the
> > > rest of Palmetto Flight
> > > > only 15 - 20 minutes out. We all refueled ...
> 2.99
> > > guaranteed price !!
> > >
> > >
> > > It was nice talking to you as you were crossing
> the
> > > mountains and figuring
> > > we were only 10 minutes behind you.
> > >
> > > We launched from DCU headed to Warren, Arkansas
> > > (3M9) as a flight of 4. A
> > > > flight of about 1 1/2 hours. The mayor of
> Warren
> > > would meet us at the
> > > > field
> > > > to open the gas tanks and give us a ride to
> lunch.
> > > With that kind of
> > > > reception we had to make a nice approach !! He
> > > picked us up and took us
> > > > into town
> > >
> > >
> > > I must say, this is the FIRST time I have been
> > > greeted by the Mayor ...just
> > > for showing up to buy a little gas!! Cool!!
> > >
> > >
> > > for lunch at the local hot spot. The owner of a
> > > Baron and the local bank
> > > > also
> > > > played taxicab for us. Nice stop and again
> 2.99
> > > fuel !!
> > >
> > >
> > > You forgot the best part ... " ... we don't take
> > > credit cards, just put your
> > > name and amount down here and we will send you a
> > > bill...". By the way they
> > > say they have NEVER been stiffed. Way cool.
> > >
> > > Last stop ... Gainesville, Texas (GLE) just
> about 40
> > > miles north of Dallas.
> > > > I must tell you it was a thrill to see DFW on
> my
> > > GPS !!! This flight was
> > > > also about 1 1/2 hours ... we made a nice
> arrival
> > > pass for the gathered
> > > > crowd
> > > > ... smoke on and in diamond formation.
> > >
> > >
> > > Len you now make us look **really** good on
> > > arrivals. That smoke really does
> > > the job. I ended up in a three-ship formation
> doing
> > > a pass and I was the
> > > only one WITHOUT smoke. Hmmmmmm....
> > >
> > > After all day of flying we were immediately
> herded
> > > into a 3 hour formation
> > > > class. Then out for dinner and beer with all
> the
> > > attendees ... 16 planes
> > > > in
> > > > all. Guys from Park City, Utah .. Nashville,
> Tn
> > > ... Cincinnati, Oh ...
> > > >
> > > > Stu McCurdy ... FFI, Inc founder and formation
> > > Guru ... ex Air Force jock
> > > > ..
> > > > was the instructor for the clinic. Famous
> words
> > > are "Be at your planes
> > > > gentlemen at 0800" ... we won't wait for you.
> Four
> > > flights with different
> > > > leads
> > > > and planes all day Saturday ... real workout
> ..
> > > but I learned a lot ...
> > > > especially the rejoins (which are hard !!).
> Most
> > > fun I had that day was in
> > > > a four
> > > > ship in loose trail ... we were screaming up
> and
> > > down in semi hammer heads
> > > > ... just one right after the other as if in a
> dog
> > > fight ... FUN !!!
> > > >
> > > > Dinner that night and lots more beer. A
> beautiful
> > > movie on an RV trip out
> > > > west taken by Stu and some of the guys from
> Team
> > > RV ... I have requested a
> > > > copy of the CD from Mike Stewart ... we have
> to
> > > show this to you ... you
> > > > will
> > > > want to make the trip !!!
> > > >
> > > > Up early to questionable weather in the East
> on
> > > Sunday morning ... we
> > > > launched with the exact same flight plan as
> before
> > > ... just reversing the
> > > > stops.
> > > > Got to Decatur before we had to make a
> decision
> > > whether to try to make it
> > > > home. We launched for Anderson, SC at 2500'
> and
> > > would go as far as we
> > > > could.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken did a fine job of leading us through the
> worst
> > > stuff. "... stay with me
> > > ... don't turn back on me ... I WON"T leave you
> ...
> > > "
> > >
> > > James was quick to point out all the towers on
> the
> > > hills at 12:00 o'clock
> > > > ...
> > > > luckily we missed them all. Visibility was
> great
> > > though and we made
> > > > Anderson
> > >
> > >
> > > An interesting thing about flying in formation
> > > (flight of four) ... You have
> > > AT LEAST one set of eyes looking straight ahead,
> one
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
Anyone interested in a 296 garmin gps. I would like to try a 396. Please
advise. Thanks Dean
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| Subject: | Re: Texas Formation Trip |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Thanks for thinking of us and asking but sadly enough, no.
Don't know what happened in Ken's case but I did not get a recommendation to
take the ride. My first flight in the morning was a 4-ship to demo to the
"newbies" what it is like. It was led by Kahuna and had me (at #4) and Ken
in it.
Long story short, I was not ready to be "seen" ... not on my game. No other
excuses. I knew it had killed the chance for an eval right then and there.
Can do much better. Have done much better. Will do much better.
My next two flights were with newbies as a flight lead (the first one with
Falcon as a safety pilot with one of the "newbies") and the next was one on
one with a newbie from the prior flight. I really enjoyed seeing the
progress being made.
It was nice being able to give back and help those who are joining our
"fraternity".
I am hoping that the next clinic will provide just a little more opportunity
for what I call the "oldbies" :-) to get their cobwebs knocked loose as
well.
Don't fret though, Palmetto Flight is going deeper into practice, practice,
practice. We'll get there.
James
On 11/22/05, RGray67968@aol.com <RGray67968@aol.com> wrote:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
>
> OK....we know how long it took to get there and we know all about the
> 396.....what we really want to know is:
>
> Do we have any new FFI Wingmen??
>
>
> Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm - RV6 Sold, RV8 Project Completed, RV10
> and
> F1 Rocket Under Construction!!
>
>
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