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1. 07:35 AM - Re: EIS Leaning (Wayne Williams)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: RV9AQB for salexx SOLD (Wayne Williams)
3. 09:30 AM - Re: EIS Leaning (Marcus Cooper)
4. 11:00 AM - Re: EIS Leaning (Larry Bowen)
5. 01:40 PM - Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... (Matt Dralle)
6. 02:44 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (Steve Glasgow)
7. 05:19 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
8. 05:27 PM - Little River Fly-In (Ron Schreck)
9. 05:37 PM - FW: RV FLY-IN (Larry Bowen)
10. 05:54 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (Larry Bowen)
11. 06:27 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (JohnCClarkVA@cs.com)
12. 07:02 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (sportav8r@aol.com)
13. 07:21 PM - Re: Today (Demeylor@aol.com)
14. 07:30 PM - Re: EIS Leaning (Demeylor@aol.com)
15. 07:32 PM - Woeful saga of stranded airplane (sportav8r@aol.com)
16. 07:45 PM - Re: Woeful saga of stranded airplane (James Clark)
17. 07:59 PM - Re: Today (Larry Bowen)
18. 08:13 PM - Re: Woeful saga of stranded airplane (Larry Bowen)
19. 08:42 PM - Re: Woeful saga of stranded airplane (Radomir Zaric)
20. 09:14 PM - Re: Prop (James Clark)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
I use it all the time. Works great! Just hit reset, then start leaning. It
will identify which peaks first then tell you degrees from peak. I usually
run 75 degrees rich of peak.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
--> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I know a couple of you guys have the EIS engine monitor in your planes. Do
you rely on the "digital leaning pages"? I've had those pages disabled so
far. Thinking of trying them....
http://www.grtavionics.com/leanpage.htm
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | RE: RV9AQB for salexx SOLD |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
I'll let Gary tell the world! Haven't worked out the details of pickup, yet.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RV9AQB for salexx SOLD
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/2005 4:47:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
rwayne@gamewood.net writes:
Sold the RV9A kit today! Thanks to everyone that expressed an interest.
Wayne
Who bought it and when are they picking it up ???
Len
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Just to start another controversy, anybody playing with Lean of Peak? Seems
like a trend that is rapidly gaining popularity. I've read several articles
from the Cessna Pilots Organization that seems to really support it and the
engines most of us will use (Lycoming IO-540) seems to lend itself very well
to the idea due to fairly consistent fuel/air mixture between cylinders.
Marcus
Got the engine, but far from mounting it yet
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Williams
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
I use it all the time. Works great! Just hit reset, then start leaning. It
will identify which peaks first then tell you degrees from peak. I usually
run 75 degrees rich of peak.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
--> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I know a couple of you guys have the EIS engine monitor in your planes. Do
you rely on the "digital leaning pages"? I've had those pages disabled so
far. Thinking of trying them....
http://www.grtavionics.com/leanpage.htm
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Yes, trying to get smarter on the topic.
I wonder where you end up (ROP or LOP) if you lean until rough, richen until
smooth without looking at the fancy engine monitors. When I lean using the
EIS, it peaks before there is any roughness. So, I guess "lean to rough,
rich until smooth" puts you at peak or LOP.
More info:
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182131-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182084-1.html
I'm sure we can reach a consensus after some discussion. (hee-hee).
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Cooper [mailto:coop85@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:29 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper"
> --> <coop85@bellsouth.net>
>
> Just to start another controversy, anybody playing with Lean
> of Peak? Seems like a trend that is rapidly gaining
> popularity. I've read several articles from the Cessna
> Pilots Organization that seems to really support it and the
> engines most of us will use (Lycoming IO-540) seems to lend
> itself very well to the idea due to fairly consistent
> fuel/air mixture between cylinders.
>
> Marcus
> Got the engine, but far from mounting it yet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Wayne Williams
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
> <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>
> I use it all the time. Works great! Just hit reset, then
> start leaning. It will identify which peaks first then tell
> you degrees from peak. I usually run 75 degrees rich of peak.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Larry Bowen
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> --> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I know a couple of you guys have the EIS engine monitor in
> your planes. Do you rely on the "digital leaning pages"?
> I've had those pages disabled so far. Thinking of trying them....
>
> http://www.grtavionics.com/leanpage.htm
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
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> Photoshare, and much much more:
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| Subject: | Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
There are just four more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has
been very good, but we are behind last year as far as the number of people
that have made a Contribution and as a percentage of the total number of subscribers.
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means I have of keeping these Lists running through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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do not archive
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Wayne are you aspirated?
Cappy
--- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
> <rwayne@gamewood.net>
>
> I use it all the time. Works great! Just hit reset, then start leaning. It
> will identify which peaks first then tell you degrees from peak. I usually
> run 75 degrees rich of peak.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> Bowen
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> --> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I know a couple of you guys have the EIS engine monitor in your planes.
> Do
> you rely on the "digital leaning pages"? I've had those pages disabled so
> far. Thinking of trying them....
>
> http://www.grtavionics.com/leanpage.htm
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/2005 10:00:53 PM Central Standard Time,
Larry@bowenaero.com writes:
I've been doing the same, normally about 1350 for me. I think I'll just
stay with my current technique.
>>>
OK you guys have me bugged- on my E3D (150 hp carbed) I'll normally see about
1520 or so before roughness in cruise, and on the way back from GLE it got
all the way to just over 1600 without roughness (around 9.5K' and 2350 rpms).
Something wrong with my engine or technique?
ps- GLE to SYI (560 nm) in about 3:45 and 6.4 gph averaging above alt & rpm-
are these RVs a hoot or WHAT?! Had a great time at FF clinic- thanks again to
all y'all Palmettoans!
Mark Phillips
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| Subject: | Little River Fly-In |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
My friend, Jerry Cornwell is hosting a fly-in at Little River Airpark in north-central
Florida. Steve (every day is Saturday) Glasgow and I met Jerry at the
Lakeland RV Fly-in last year. Jerry has an award-winning RV-8. We flew back
to Jerry's home at Little River Airpark on the way back to Charlotte. Its a
great place for a fly-in, especially in December. Jerry expects dozens of RV's
to show up and it should be a great time. Hope SERV Squadron can make a great
showing. Here's the information on the fly-in:
DECEMBER 10, 2005 (rain date December 11th)
FLYING LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK (McAlpin, FL)
Identifier: FL10
Coordinates: N 30*07.30 W 082*53.91
Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional)
Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36
LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18
Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT taxi on runway.
Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00 donation please.
Lunch at noon. Coffee and donuts for early birds.
All activities will be held at north end of runway 36
NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK
CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT.
For further information contact Jerry Cornwell 386-963-4954
See you there,
Ron Schreck
Gold Hill Airpark
RV-8 (Painting Fuselage Tomorrow if it warms up a bit)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Thanks Jerry. I'll pass it on.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Do not archive
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From: Rvstinger5@wmconnect.com [mailto:Rvstinger5@wmconnect.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 7:29 PM
To: Larry@bowenaero.com
Cc: ronschreck@alltel.net
Subject: RV FLY-IN
Larry: I was given your address by Ron Schrek. He suggests I
request that you put our fly-in on your mailing list. If you have any
questions please contact me, Jerry Cornwell 386-963-4954. or
rvstinger5@wmconnect.com.
Thank you. Jerry.
DECEMBER 10, 2005 (rain date December 11th)
FLYING LITTLE RIVER AIRPARK (McAlpin, FL)
Identifier: FL10
Coordinates: N 30*07.30 W 082*53.91
Frequency: 122.9 (JAX sectional)
Runways: RIGHT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 36
LEFT HAND TRAFFIC FOR RUNWAY 18
Use taxiway located on west side of runway 18/36. DO NOT taxi on
runway.
Burgers and hot dogs with all the fixings will be served. $5.00
donation please. Lunch at noon. Coffee and donuts for early birds.
All activities will be held at north end of runway 36
NOTE: THIS IS A PRIVATE AIRPARK. LAND AT YOUR OWN RISK
CAUTION: TOWER N.E. OF AIRPORT.
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'm no expert, but I don't think anything is wrong with your technique.
Absolute temps are hard to compare across engines. Everyone's temp probes
are placed differently, etc. There is no harm leaning very aggressively
while at reduced power (9,500 ft).
During the summer, CHT's determined how hard I could lean. I had to run a
little richer than I wanted to keep them cool. Now that it's cold again I
can be more aggressive with the red lever. 6.4 gph is awesome. I usually
see about 9.5 gph at 23 squared...but I seldom go higher than 5,500.
FWIW,
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 O-360/Hartzell/Carb/147 Hrs
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fiveonepw@aol.com [mailto:Fiveonepw@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:06 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2005 10:00:53 PM Central Standard
> Time, Larry@bowenaero.com writes:
> I've been doing the same, normally about 1350 for me. I
> think I'll just stay with my current technique.
> >>>
>
> OK you guys have me bugged- on my E3D (150 hp carbed) I'll
> normally see about
> 1520 or so before roughness in cruise, and on the way back
> from GLE it got
> all the way to just over 1600 without roughness (around 9.5K'
> and 2350 rpms).
> Something wrong with my engine or technique?
>
> ps- GLE to SYI (560 nm) in about 3:45 and 6.4 gph averaging
> above alt & rpm-
> are these RVs a hoot or WHAT?! Had a great time at FF
> clinic- thanks again to
> all y'all Palmettoans!
>
> Mark Phillips
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: JohnCClarkVA@cs.com
Hi Larry and all. I have been playing with the leaning function, but it is
not too helpful with my carbureted engine. The RF cylinder runs cold and the
RR cylinder runs hot. At cruise or higher setting the RR is about 1400 and the
RF is about 1250. As I lean, the other three rise normally, the RR rises
some, peaks and drops some. There is no way that I can get a 50 deg Rich of Peak
with the RR. So, I let it do what it wants and watch the other three. Some
of the engine experts here say that the spread is not an issue, that I now
have too much information (from the EIS) for my own good. Not sure that I buy
that thought totally, but I am getting the 160 HP speeds that Van predicted.
189 mph TAS. Regards, John.
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Peak for me is typically 1538*F at 24 squared meaasured at #3 cylinder. I can
lean her beyond to about 1480 before it starts to get rough, but have to bring
in extra power to counter the dropping rpm and maintain altitude. Leaned that
far, you will soon know if you descend w/o enrichening things :-) Runs great,
less filling to do later at the pump.
-Stormy O-320 160 hp FP
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Just to start another controversy, anybody playing with Lean of Peak? Seems
like a trend that is rapidly gaining popularity. I've read several articles
from the Cessna Pilots Organization that seems to really support it and the
engines most of us will use (Lycoming IO-540) seems to lend itself very well
to the idea due to fairly consistent fuel/air mixture between cylinders.
Marcus
Got the engine, but far from mounting it yet
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Williams
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams"
<rwayne@gamewood.net>
I use it all the time. Works great! Just hit reset, then start leaning. It
will identify which peaks first then tell you degrees from peak. I usually
run 75 degrees rich of peak.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: EIS Leaning
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
--> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I know a couple of you guys have the EIS engine monitor in your planes. Do
you rely on the "digital leaning pages"? I've had those pages disabled so
far. Thinking of trying them....
http://www.grtavionics.com/leanpage.htm
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
I stopped at Silver Creek airport about 15 east of 9a9. A really great bunch
of guys there as well. I also got the grand tour. An avenger several t-6s.
and numerous there ww-2 aircraft. I would also recommend it. They also said
they take us the country club for lunch. Dean
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
I have an aero sport engine with the gami injectors. All cylinders peak with
in .2/10's of a gallon and runs smooth lean of peak. That's gami's claim to
fame. But you do loose some airspeed On a hot day cylinder head temp's run
much cooler there. Dean
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| Subject: | Woeful saga of stranded airplane |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Well, Thanksgiving weekend is in the archives now, and the work week resumes for
me with a vengeance tomorrow. I took my daughter back to college in the RV
this afternoon, and wouldn't you know the wx was immediately worse than forecast.
Shoot, it was worse that the current observations I had checked 10 minutes
before. Ignoring the voice of reason that told me to turn back immediately
and pack the car instead, I pressed on eastward into lowering overcast and patches
of 1-2 miles vis in showers, fully expecting to make Newport News withjout
incident, and by then fully expecting to have quite a time of it getting as
far back home as I could. That's about how it went, too. KPHF wx was as nice
as I was told to expect, but back in the vicinity of RIC, the gauntlet remained
to be run. I made it as far as western edge of the Ric Class C before the
looks of things westward got too spooky. Set course for CHO, but the Approach
freq was full of traffic wanting vectors around leve
l 3 precip. No thanks! Hasty 180 to my last landmark with decent viz, namely
Louisa, where I landed in a driving rain and 5 miles reported visibility (yeah,
right) below a 1600 foot ceiling. Brought back memories of some foolishness
I was part of coming home from OSH last year, off the edge of Chicago's class
B ;-)
Miriam and I got home in the car tonight about the same time we would have had
we driven Melanie to Christopher Newport in the car. Plus, my baby is out in
the rain (too cheap to pop for hangar rent for who knows how long) and I get to
retrieve her later when the weather breaks. Oh well, at least I got to fly
today. A chance to scare yourself in an airplane- priceless. I did this same
stuck-away-from-home trick 14 years ago, with a rented Cessna 152, when the ink
on my ticket was still wet. One stranding every 14 years-maybe not a bad average
overall for VFR-boy.
Bob & Larry: no grafitti on my airplane while I'm away!
Lesson learned: when wx is twice as bad as forecast right out of the gate, you
should hear an inner voice saying "turn back." 2: when you hear said voice,
listen quickly, before you get far enough into your trip to talk yourself into
pushing on. 3: Got time to spare? Go by air! 4: Santa, I want an IFR plane and
a rating to go with it, please. 5: Nevertheless, IFR is no help getting home
to a private strip that is itself below minimums.
That's why they call me "Stormy..."
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| Subject: | Re: Woeful saga of stranded airplane |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
The "good news" is that you and passenger are safely on the ground.
Glad to hear that.
James
On 11/27/05, sportav8r@aol.com <sportav8r@aol.com> wrote:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Well, Thanksgiving weekend is in the archives now, and the work week
> resumes for me with a vengeance tomorrow. I took my daughter back to
> college in the RV this afternoon, and wouldn't you know the wx was
> immediately worse than forecast. Shoot, it was worse that the current
> observations I had checked 10 minutes before. Ignoring the voice of reason
> that told me to turn back immediately and pack the car instead, I pressed on
> eastward into lowering overcast and patches of 1-2 miles vis in showers,
> fully expecting to make Newport News withjout incident, and by then fully
> expecting to have quite a time of it getting as far back home as I
> could. That's about how it went, too. KPHF wx was as nice as I was told to
> expect, but back in the vicinity of RIC, the gauntlet remained to be run. I
> made it as far as western edge of the Ric Class C before the looks of things
> westward got too spooky. Set course for CHO, but the Approach freq was full
> of traffic wanting vectors around leve
> l 3 precip. No thanks! Hasty 180 to my last landmark with decent viz,
> namely Louisa, where I landed in a driving rain and 5 miles reported
> visibility (yeah, right) below a 1600 foot ceiling. Brought back memories
> of some foolishness I was part of coming home from OSH last year, off the
> edge of Chicago's class B ;-)
>
> Miriam and I got home in the car tonight about the same time we would have
> had we driven Melanie to Christopher Newport in the car. Plus, my baby is
> out in the rain (too cheap to pop for hangar rent for who knows how long)
> and I get to retrieve her later when the weather breaks. Oh well, at least
> I got to fly today. A chance to scare yourself in an airplane-
> priceless. I did this same stuck-away-from-home trick 14 years ago, with a
> rented Cessna 152, when the ink on my ticket was still wet. One stranding
> every 14 years-maybe not a bad average overall for VFR-boy.
>
> Bob & Larry: no grafitti on my airplane while I'm away!
>
> Lesson learned: when wx is twice as bad as forecast right out of the
> gate, you should hear an inner voice saying "turn back." 2: when you hear
> said voice, listen quickly, before you get far enough into your trip to talk
> yourself into pushing on. 3: Got time to spare? Go by air! 4: Santa, I want
> an IFR plane and a rating to go with it, please. 5: Nevertheless, IFR is
> no help getting home to a private strip that is itself below minimums.
>
> That's why they call me "Stormy..."
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Sounds nice. We'll have to add it to our places to go. Are flight suits
allowed in the country club? :)
http://airnav.com/airport/NC52
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Demeylor@aol.com [mailto:Demeylor@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:21 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Today
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
>
> I stopped at Silver Creek airport about 15 east of 9a9. A
> really great bunch of guys there as well. I also got the
> grand tour. An avenger several t-6s.
> and numerous there ww-2 aircraft. I would also recommend it.
> They also said
> they take us the country club for lunch.
> Dean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I got wet this morning too while flying to breakfast at RUQ. I made it back
before cigs and vis came down though. Let me know if you need help
retrieving your ride.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:32 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com; Mid-AtlRVwing@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Woeful saga of stranded airplane
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Well, Thanksgiving weekend is in the archives now, and the
> work week resumes for me with a vengeance tomorrow. I took
> my daughter back to college in the RV this afternoon, and
> wouldn't you know the wx was immediately worse than forecast.
> Shoot, it was worse that the current observations I had
> checked 10 minutes before. Ignoring the voice of reason that
> told me to turn back immediately and pack the car instead, I
> pressed on eastward into lowering overcast and patches of 1-2
> miles vis in showers, fully expecting to make Newport News
> withjout incident, and by then fully expecting to have quite
> a time of it getting as far back home as I could. That's
> about how it went, too. KPHF wx was as nice as I was told to
> expect, but back in the vicinity of RIC, the gauntlet
> remained to be run. I made it as far as western edge of the
> Ric Class C before the looks of things westward got too
> spooky. Set course for CHO, but the Approach freq was full
> of traffic wanting vectors around leve l 3 precip. No
> thanks! Hasty 180 to my last landmark with decent viz,
> namely Louisa, where I landed in a driving rain and 5 miles
> reported visibility (yeah, right) below a 1600 foot ceiling.
> Brought back memories of some foolishness I was part of
> coming home from OSH last year, off the edge of Chicago's class B ;-)
>
> Miriam and I got home in the car tonight about the same time
> we would have had we driven Melanie to Christopher Newport in
> the car. Plus, my baby is out in the rain (too cheap to pop
> for hangar rent for who knows how long) and I get to retrieve
> her later when the weather breaks. Oh well, at least I got
> to fly today. A chance to scare yourself in an airplane-
> priceless. I did this same stuck-away-from-home trick 14
> years ago, with a rented Cessna 152, when the ink on my
> ticket was still wet. One stranding every 14 years-maybe not
> a bad average overall for VFR-boy.
>
> Bob & Larry: no grafitti on my airplane while I'm away!
>
> Lesson learned: when wx is twice as bad as forecast right
> out of the gate, you should hear an inner voice saying "turn
> back." 2: when you hear said voice, listen quickly, before
> you get far enough into your trip to talk yourself into
> pushing on. 3: Got time to spare? Go by air! 4: Santa, I
> want an IFR plane and a rating to go with it, please. 5:
> Nevertheless, IFR is no help getting home to a private strip
> that is itself below minimums.
>
> That's why they call me "Stormy..."
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy,
I spent 6 hours today going through that same weather too. Luckily, we had
all the gizmos possible on board (oh joys of flying a Cirrus SR-22), so
majority of our trip was spent deviating around those same cells. We also
lucked out with altitude (7k going up to Lancaster, PA, and 8k on the way
back) that we were in between layers most of the time. However, if we
didn't have XM weather on board, it would have been one very rough ride.
Glad to hear everything worked out OK.
Radomir
-7A Fuselage
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Some more questions and some review for me if you don't mind ...
1. What engine? O-360or O-320?
Probably not a factor at all but tells me what to "feel".
2. What prop? Wood? Metal? FP or CS?
Makes a big difference if all else is constant. Wood much smoother.
3. What RPM or scenarion for vibration?
The question of harmonics come to mind. With a "Prop Tach" you can tell the
exact RPM. A harmonic should felt at multiples of the RPM.
4. Carburetor or fuel injected?
Is the "carbbie" appropriately adjusted. I suspect so.
5. What mounts? Conical or Dynafocal?
With conicals you can almost feel the bugs hitting the tops of the
cylinders. If conical, make sure the mounts are Lord Mounts.
6. Fuel and fuel system deviation from "norm"?
Maybe a chance of fuel getting too hot and boiling either in a line or the
carb bowl. Especially if auto gas and it is hot outside.
7. Prop *tracking*? (especially if wood)
Metal is probably hard to be out of "alignment" but wood can be based on how
it is torqued.
Just some things to jumpstart the dialog again.
James
On 11/17/05, Ron and Shannon AWAD <sawad13@msn.com> wrote:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <
> sawad13@msn.com>
>
> Okay, lets do it!
>
>
> Ron Awad
>
>
> >From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> >Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:01:37 -0500
> >
> >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >Let's try to get together some time AFTER this weekend (off to Texas for
> >Formation Clinic).
> >
> >Don't know if I can help but I will gladly share "opinions". :-)
> >
> >Call me: 803-238-2113.
> >
> >James
> >
> >On 11/15/05, Ron and Shannon AWAD <sawad13@msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <
> > > sawad13@msn.com>
> > >
> > > No visits, just emails so far. Bill is going to try to see if his prop
> >on
> > > his plane now will fit mine....?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Awad
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> > > >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> > > >Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:25:44 -0500
> > > >
> > > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <
> > > Larry@BowenAero.com>
> > > >
> > > >Didn't James and/or some others meet with you a while ago to try to
> > > figure
> > > >it out? Was any progress made?
> > > >
> > > >-
> > > >Larry Bowen
> > > >Larry@BowenAero.com
> > > >http://BowenAero.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ron and Shannon AWAD [mailto:sawad13@msn.com]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:12 PM
> > > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> > > > >
> > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD"
> > > > > --> <sawad13@msn.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to put Bill Crothers prop on my plane today to see if
> > > > > my prop is out of whack... his prop is thicker than mine and
> > > > > I didn't think my bolts would be long enough, so I left his
> > > > > prop in the box and my prop on the plane.
> > > > >
> > > > > Flew Mike Bicks RV-4 Saturday and the engine/prop was
> > > > > smoother than the engine in my toyota car.... very
> >frustrating!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Awad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> > > > > >Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 22:08:19 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark
> > > > > <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ron,
> > > > > > Call me on this.
> > > > > > I have spent a bit of time dealing with "vibes" on our 6.
> > > > > > Do you have a conical engine mount or a dynafocal?.
> > > > > > James
> > > > > > 803-238-2113
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/24/05, Bill Repucci <bill@repucci.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bill Repucci"
> > > > > ><bill@repucci.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > After thinking about what you said at Long Island this
> >afternoon:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) The vibration is most pronounced when you close the
> > > > > throttle to slow
> > > > > > > down so you can deploy the flaps.
> > > > > > > 2) You tried dynamically balancing the prop and it didn't make
> >any
> > > > > > > difference.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't really know but if I had to guess I would take a
> > > > > close look at
> > > > > > > the engine mount, both the vibration dampeners and where
> > > > > it bolts to the
> > > > > > > firewall.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some of the other folks on this list might have a thought
> > > > > or two as
> > > > > > > well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Ron
> > > > > > > and Shannon AWAD
> > > > > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD"
> > > > > > > --> <sawad13@msn.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How much and does he have a spinner for it? I just want to try
> a
> > > > > > > different
> > > > > > > prop to see if that is the source of my viberations, if
> > > > > it is then what
> > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > I borrow I would probably want buy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron Awad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Lenleg@aol.com
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Prop
> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:17:59 EDT
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >In a message dated 9/23/2005 8:39:25 AM Eastern Standard
> Time,
> > > > > > > >sawad13@msn.com writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >No one has a spare prop they can loan out or rent to me
> > > > > for testing
> > > > > > > >purposes???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ron Awad
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Wayne8 has a 3 blade Cato he is trying to sell.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Len
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--
> > > > > >This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
> > > > > >james@nextupventures.com .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ,
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
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> >james@nextupventures.com .
> >
> >
>
>
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