Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:07 AM - Re: Brake Fluid (Larry Bowen)
2. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Brake Fluid (Demeylor@aol.com)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: Brake Fluid (Ed Anderson)
4. 08:16 AM - Where to? (Larry Bowen)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: Where to? (Steve Glasgow)
6. 08:57 AM - Re: Where to? (Demeylor@aol.com)
7. 09:15 AM - Re: Where to? (Larry Bowen)
8. 07:02 PM - Re: Your Aerobatic Gross Weight (Speedy11@aol.com)
Message 1
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Why did you decide against the more readily available Mobil1 synthetic ATF
option that others are using? Just curious....
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:25 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> thanks, Ed. will see if I can do that fairly soon; I need ot
> pay some attention to my brakes soon - time for replacement
> pads after 540 hours.
>
> -
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
>
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> --> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Stormy, I have a gallon of the stuff and more than willing to
> share it as there is more there than I would probably use in
> a flying life time {:>). If we can arrange to meet at Goose
> Creek (28A) where I keep the stuff (bring your own container)
> sometimes when you are flying (or driving as far as that
> goes), I'll be more than happy to fill it up.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Matthews, NC
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List:
>
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
> >
> > Was someone in the group saying they had some of the new
> hi-temp brake
> > fluid in quantity and willing to divvy it up among the rest of us?
> >
> > I was fixin' to order a gallon of it otherwise; then I can
> be the one to
> > share :-)
> >
> > MIL-PRF-83282; Royco 782
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> >
> >
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Message 2
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Brake Fluid |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
Looks like a beautiful day anyone going anywhere today? Larry give me a call
I like the people at RUQ. I'd like your input. Dean
Message 3
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Brake Fluid |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Good question, Larry.
I guess there are several reasons for my decision (with some supporting comments
- but not proof - in italics)
1. Not certain how insurance company would handle any possible claim resulting
from a brake failure if you were not using an hydraulic fluid approved for "Aircraft"
brakes.
2. There is still some questions about the suitability of some of the other fluids
as candidates. For instance I have read (don't know if its a fact or not)
that DOT 5 can absorb moisture over time which can cause corrosion of aluminum
brake parts (automobiles use steel parts).
I would be careful with ATF. The high detergent level may or may not be compatible
with seals. Why not use a fluid DESIGNED for the task.
3. Cold weather may affect the operation of the ATV
I tried using ATF, as I'd also read good reports on it, however recently I
had to fill the system after changing the tires & brakes and found that it
was impossible to fill the system at -15C, so with great difficulty I purged
and flushed the ATF out of the system and am now using DOT5. ATF may be
suitable for use in warmer climates, but didn't cut it up here in the frozen
north.
Now I am unlikely (I hope) to ever be operating where the temps are - 15C!!!, but
thought it was interesting.
But, the biggest reason is I did not want to make it easy for an insurance company
to invalidate any claim that might arise.
Ed A
>
> Why did you decide against the more readily available Mobil1 synthetic ATF
> option that others are using? Just curious....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:25 PM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>
>> thanks, Ed. will see if I can do that fairly soon; I need ot
>> pay some attention to my brakes soon - time for replacement
>> pads after 540 hours.
>>
>> -
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List:
>>
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
>> --> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Stormy, I have a gallon of the stuff and more than willing to
>> share it as there is more there than I would probably use in
>> a flying life time {:>). If we can arrange to meet at Goose
>> Creek (28A) where I keep the stuff (bring your own container)
>> sometimes when you are flying (or driving as far as that
>> goes), I'll be more than happy to fill it up.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Ed Anderson
>> Matthews, NC
>>
>> .
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List:
>>
>>
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>> >
>> > Was someone in the group saying they had some of the new
>> hi-temp brake
>> > fluid in quantity and willing to divvy it up among the rest of us?
>> >
>> > I was fixin' to order a gallon of it otherwise; then I can
>> be the one to
>> > share :-)
>> >
>> > MIL-PRF-83282; Royco 782
>> >
>> > -Stormy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Message 4
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'm looking for a destination too. Ideas?
I've sent the RUQ paint shop a check to hold 1/16/06 for my plane. Finally
getting painted! The last big $tep....
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Demeylor@aol.com [mailto:Demeylor@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:21 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
>
> Looks like a beautiful day anyone going anywhere today? Larry
> give me a call
> I like the people at RUQ. I'd like your input. Dean
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
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Message 5
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Wow! That is a big step.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Where to?
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'm looking for a destination too. Ideas?
I've sent the RUQ paint shop a check to hold 1/16/06 for my plane. Finally
getting painted! The last big $tep....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Demeylor@aol.com [mailto:Demeylor@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:21 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
>
> Looks like a beautiful day anyone going anywhere today? Larry
> give me a call
> I like the people at RUQ. I'd like your input. Dean
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
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Message 6
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
I also am planning to schedule. How about Grand Stand for lunch. Dean
Message 7
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Wx looks a little dicey down that way. I was thinking MTV. Is 1:30 too
late? I'll call you.
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Demeylor@aol.com [mailto:Demeylor@aol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:57 AM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Where to?
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
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> I also am planning to schedule. How about Grand Stand for lunch. Dean
>
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> Photoshare, and much much more:
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Message 8
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| Subject: | Re: Your Aerobatic Gross Weight |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Speedy11@aol.com
Kahuna,
This is remarkable information!!!
I wonder why Van's would withold such information?
Thanks to Randy for discovering this info and for sharing it with us.
Stan Sutterfield
In a message dated 12/18/05 3:09:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rvsoutheast-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
This figure however does NOT include fuel in WING tanks which is what
was not clear. Note that any fuel in a fuselage tank WOULD be included
in the Aerobatic gross.
Interestingly, he confirmed that this method applies to any RV model. As
an RV-8 builder/pilot I interpreted Van's W&B instructions to mean that
fuel WAS included in Aerobatic Category gross weight calculations as
well as Utility/Normal Category gross weight operation. In fact that is
erroneous -- as long as the fuel is in wing tanks it may be excluded
from the Aerobatic calculation and limit. Of course Van's points out
that weight has other deleterious effects on aerobatic handling and
encourages pilots to use good judgement when loading their aircraft for
aerobatics.
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