---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/20/05: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:56 AM - Formation Practice Last Saturday () 2. 05:18 AM - Re: Formation Practice Last Saturday (Lenleg@aol.com) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Formation Practice Last Saturday (Larry Bowen) 4. 09:25 AM - Re: Formation Practice Last Saturday (James Clark) 5. 01:06 PM - Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (sportav8r@aol.com) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Mike.Munn@fluor.com) 7. 01:22 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Steve Glasgow) 8. 01:26 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (sportav8r@aol.com) 9. 01:48 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (sportav8r@aol.com) 10. 04:20 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (bill crothers) 11. 04:33 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (James Clark) 12. 04:37 PM - Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps (Craig) 13. 04:40 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Ron and Shannon AWAD) 14. 04:48 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Steve Glasgow) 15. 04:50 PM - Re: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps (Steve Glasgow) 16. 04:51 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Larry Bowen) 17. 04:52 PM - Re: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way (Larry Bowen) 18. 04:54 PM - Re: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps (Larry Bowen) 19. 05:24 PM - Re: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps (Craig) 20. 05:25 PM - Re: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps (Craig) 21. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Brake Fluid (ben burril) 22. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: Brake Fluid (Ed Anderson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:52 AM PST US From: Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Practice Last Saturday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: I wish you would stop posting these messages. I'm stuck here in Virginia Beach thrashing all about the Atlantic coast looking for whales in a Skymaster and you guys are flailing around South Carolina in RV's flying formation. Anybody want to trade positions? I'm headed back to Gold Hill today and hope to get a few days to paint some insignia on the RV-8. I'm so close that I can smell the end! (Not that end!) ;-) I was thrilled to hear that Larry Bowen is going to do a military paint job on his RV-8. We'll be like squadron mates! Rest assured that I'll head straight for Colunbia as soon as I get this thing in the air and join your formation. Anybody interested in formation aerobatics? It's the next step and a whole lot of fun. Larry, hope to see you next week. Bring a camera and a tape measure and we'll get all those insignia measurements you need for the paint job. Are you doing smoke? While I'm on the subject, Len, don't you have smoke? Where is a cheapo place to get oil? Best I have heard so far is "form oil" by the drum at a supplier in Charlotte. Thanks for the blow=by=blow of your Saturday flying. It keeps me motivated. Fly Safe, Ron Schreck Gold Hill Airpark (NC25) RV-8... Painting trim.. sooooo close! do not archive <<<<<<<<<<<<<< --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com SERV: We had another great practice day with James & Ken playing host down in Columbia. If you have not made that trip ... come with us next time .... the BBQ down there is fabulous ... and lots to choose from ..... only place I know that has better is Texas !!! (joke !!) Bill Crothers in AA, Len in LL, Larry in WN went down .... High overcast day and very smooth flying above 2000' ... great practice with Larry Bowen in Whiskey November flying the number 4 spot with a very small passenger in the back ... do wish I had a camera when they first loaded up ... James flew back seat with Larry to help talk him through some of the flight ... when Larry got in and closed the canopy ... the only thing we could see in the back seat was James' eyes .... booster seat please !!! Ken led us through a great practice ... Larry flew very well. Debrief and lunch at "The Pig" ... you just have to try it ... they offer 6 or 7 different types of bbq and then top it off with a small pig to pick from ... all you can eat !!! Larry had to depart early ... so James saddled up Pappa Juliet ... as soon as we started taxiing ... the rain came ... more rain on climb out and the wood props had to head for shelter ... Bill and I continued with the flight back to NC with Ken running advance protection for a few miles ... all in all another great day in the RV ... These flights come up pretty quick ... not a lot of advance planning ... any and all are welcome to come make the flight .. you don't have to fly formation ... that is something a few of us have fallen in love with .... just the fun of a gaggle of RVs heading somewhere for lunch is great ... we always have open back seats for the formation part if interested. Until next time .... 3's out !!! Len ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:12 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Practice Last Saturday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com In a message dated 12/20/2005 6:57:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, ronschreck@alltel.net writes: While I'm on the subject, Len, don't you have smoke? Where is a cheapo place to get oil? I looked everywhere and found nothing cheap ... that would not clog the injectors ... Ended up buying a 50 gallon drum of oil from one of our own SERV members who flies a Rocket and owns an oil compnay down in Elizabethtown ... spent much more money than I wanted too ... but got what I wanted. Could find nothing in the Greensboro/Winston area ... Len Looking forward to you getting in the air and joining in with us !!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Practice Last Saturday From: Larry Bowen --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Larry Bowen Yes, I'll see you next week. I haven't thought seriously about smoke so far. Maybe when everything else is done (ha!). Len's came in handy when the four of us were in the pattern with a Skyhawk Saturday. He was turning into us, didn't see us until Len gave him a little puff. Cool...... On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 6:56:23 -0500, wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > I wish you would stop posting these messages. I'm stuck here in Virginia > Beach thrashing all about the Atlantic coast looking for whales in a > Skymaster and you guys are flailing around South Carolina in RV's flying > formation. Anybody want to trade positions? I'm headed back to Gold Hill > today and hope to get a few days to paint some insignia on the RV-8. I'm > so close that I can smell the end! (Not that end!) ;-) I was thrilled to > hear that Larry Bowen is going to do a military paint job on his RV-8. > We'll be like squadron mates! Rest assured that I'll head straight for > Colunbia as soon as I get this thing in the air and join your formation. > Anybody interested in formation aerobatics? It's the next step and a > whole lot of fun. > Larry, hope to see you next week. Bring a camera and a tape measure and > we'll get all those insignia measurements you need for the paint job. Are > you doing smoke? > While I'm on the subject, Len, don't you have smoke? Where is a cheapo > place to get oil? Best I have heard so far is "form oil" by the drum at a > supplier in Charlotte. > Thanks for the blow=by=blow of your Saturday flying. It keeps me > motivated. > > Fly Safe, > > Ron Schreck > Gold Hill Airpark (NC25) > RV-8... Painting trim.. sooooo close! > > do not archive > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<< > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > SERV: > > We had another great practice day with James & Ken playing host down in > Columbia. If you have not made that trip ... come with us next time .... > the > BBQ > down there is fabulous ... and lots to choose from ..... only place I know > that has better is Texas !!! (joke !!) > > Bill Crothers in AA, Len in LL, Larry in WN went down .... > > High overcast day and very smooth flying above 2000' ... great practice > with > Larry Bowen in Whiskey November flying the number 4 spot with a very small > passenger in the back ... do wish I had a camera when they first loaded up > ... > > James flew back seat with Larry to help talk him through some of the > flight > ... when Larry got in and closed the canopy ... the only thing we could > see in > > the back seat was James' eyes .... booster seat please !!! > > Ken led us through a great practice ... Larry flew very well. Debrief and > lunch at "The Pig" ... you just have to try it ... they offer 6 or 7 > different > > types of bbq and then top it off with a small pig to pick from ... all you > can eat !!! > > Larry had to depart early ... so James saddled up Pappa Juliet ... as soon > as we started taxiing ... the rain came ... more rain on climb out and the > wood > > props had to head for shelter ... Bill and I continued with the flight > back to NC with Ken running advance protection for a few miles ... all in > all > > another great day in the RV ... > > These flights come up pretty quick ... not a lot of advance planning ... > any > and all are welcome to come make the flight .. you don't have to fly > formation ... that is something a few of us have fallen in love with .... > just > the > fun of a gaggle of RVs heading somewhere for lunch is great ... we always > have > > open back seats for the formation part if interested. > > Until next time .... > > 3's out !!! > > Len > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:20 AM PST US From: James Clark Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Formation Practice Last Saturday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark Not me. I am still trying to get the "formation" part down pat. :-) I wouldn't be surprised though to see > > Anybody interested in formation aerobatics? It's the next step and a > > whole lot of fun. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:34 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) -Stormy ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way From: Mike.Munn@fluor.com (Release 6.5.4FP1 | June 19, 2005) at 12/20/2005 16:17:09 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com And who said there is no Santa Claus?? Merry Christmas to all SERV members Mike Munn Do not archive sportav8r@aol.com Sent by: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@m To atronics.com rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 12/20/2005 04:06 PM cc Please respond to rvsoutheast-list Subject RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) -Stormy The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:12 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) -Stormy ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:10 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Yep, Santa Claus is actually Sid Tolchin. New title for old song: "I Saw Mommy Writin' Checks to Santa Claus" -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Mike.Munn@fluor.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com And who said there is no Santa Claus?? Merry Christmas to all SERV members Mike Munn Do not archive sportav8r@aol.com Sent by: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@m To atronics.com rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 12/20/2005 04:06 PM cc Please respond to rvsoutheast-list Subject RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) -Stormy The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:59 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Good stuff to know, Steve. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Glasgow Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) -Stormy ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:51 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Speaking of Merry Christmas, I'm now the proud owner of Scott Keadle's 8. (how quick was that, Cappy?) Looking real forward to many 200 mph days. Wife is even willing to go since back seat is huge compared to 4. Will likely take it to next months LAL deal if I can learn to grease those ldgs. by then...bill c. (Reno Red 2) --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's > Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes > Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. > $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a > ride. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold > is on the way > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > sportav8r@aol.com > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here > tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly > in the tailcone come Christmas :-) > > -Stormy > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Admin. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:33:15 PM PST US From: James Clark Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark CONGRATS!!! I want a ride in it! :-) James On 12/20/05, bill crothers wrote: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > > > Speaking of Merry Christmas, I'm now the proud owner > of Scott Keadle's 8. (how quick was that, Cappy?) > Looking real forward to many 200 mph days. Wife is > even willing to go since back seat is huge compared to > 4. Will likely take it to next months LAL deal if I > can learn to grease those ldgs. by then...bill c. > (Reno Red 2) > > --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > > Glasgow" > > > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's > > Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes > > Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. > > $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a > > ride. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: sportav8r@aol.com > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold > > is on the way > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > sportav8r@aol.com > > > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here > > tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly > > in the tailcone come Christmas :-) > > > > -Stormy > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:27 PM PST US From: Craig Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Craig I am now officially frustrated. After several days of measuring, trimming, test fitting and generally scratching my head and pondering, I am still no closer to figuring out how to make these flaps fit well. I have the wings installed for the first time and am in the process of preparing to drill the sacred rear spar bolt holes. Per Van's instructions, I am also test fitting the flaps. With the wing set up properly (I think), the left flap fits reasonably well, but is about 1/8" below the fuselage bottom in the up position. The trailing edge of the right flap ends up about 1/4" lower than the trailing edge of the left flap. This is a very noticeable difference. Also, I may have trimmed too much off of the inboard end of the top flap skin........ not sure if the flap fairing will cover that........ if I can figure out how to make the flap fairing work at all with the current flap fit up. In short, I really need to look at one that actually works and would greatly appreciate someone who has done this before laying an eyeball on mine. If any of you 8/8A drivers need a destination to fly to and have time to stop by 6NC3, Eastover Air Ranch in Fayetteville in the coming days, I would greatly appreciate some advice. Lunch is on me of course! With the exception of Saturday and Sunday, I am open to most any time from tomorrow through next Monday. Give me a call if you think you can help, 910-257-1842. I know this is a busy time of year for everyone, but I would appreciate the help if possible. Thanks. Craig Gallenbach RV8AQB ....... tryin' to make the big pieces fit together ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:49 PM PST US From: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" Me too!!! Let me know when I can " borrow the prop " off the 4..... Ron Awad >From: James Clark >Reply-To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way >Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:32:54 -0500 > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark > >CONGRATS!!! > >I want a ride in it! :-) > >James > > >On 12/20/05, bill crothers wrote: > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > > > > > > > Speaking of Merry Christmas, I'm now the proud owner > > of Scott Keadle's 8. (how quick was that, Cappy?) > > Looking real forward to many 200 mph days. Wife is > > even willing to go since back seat is huge compared to > > 4. Will likely take it to next months LAL deal if I > > can learn to grease those ldgs. by then...bill c. > > (Reno Red 2) > > > > --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > > > Glasgow" > > > > > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's > > > Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes > > > Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. > > > $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a > > > ride. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: sportav8r@aol.com > > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold > > > is on the way > > > > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > > sportav8r@aol.com > > > > > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here > > > tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly > > > in the tailcone come Christmas :-) > > > > > > -Stormy > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > > Subscriptions page, > > > FAQ, > > > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- >This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at >james@nextupventures.com . > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:48:41 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Wholly Bananas, one ride and you buy. Scott where is my commission? Congratulations Bill. I can't wait to fly with you in your new bird and see you and Buffy in LAL. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Speaking of Merry Christmas, I'm now the proud owner of Scott Keadle's 8. (how quick was that, Cappy?) Looking real forward to many 200 mph days. Wife is even willing to go since back seat is huge compared to 4. Will likely take it to next months LAL deal if I can learn to grease those ldgs. by then...bill c. (Reno Red 2) --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's > Toy just passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes > Avionics. Good job. Nice people. Good price. > $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a > ride. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold > is on the way > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > sportav8r@aol.com > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here > tomorrow or Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly > in the tailcone come Christmas :-) > > -Stormy > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Admin. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:15 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" This is to obvious, but have you adjusted the flap rods yet? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig To: SERV Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Craig I am now officially frustrated. After several days of measuring, trimming, test fitting and generally scratching my head and pondering, I am still no closer to figuring out how to make these flaps fit well. I have the wings installed for the first time and am in the process of preparing to drill the sacred rear spar bolt holes. Per Van's instructions, I am also test fitting the flaps. With the wing set up properly (I think), the left flap fits reasonably well, but is about 1/8" below the fuselage bottom in the up position. The trailing edge of the right flap ends up about 1/4" lower than the trailing edge of the left flap. This is a very noticeable difference. Also, I may have trimmed too much off of the inboard end of the top flap skin........ not sure if the flap fairing will cover that........ if I can figure out how to make the flap fairing work at all with the current flap fit up. In short, I really need to look at one that actually works and would greatly appreciate someone who has done this before laying an eyeball on mine. If any of you 8/8A drivers need a destination to fly to and have time to stop by 6NC3, Eastover Air Ranch in Fayetteville in the coming days, I would greatly appreciate some advice. Lunch is on me of course! With the exception of Saturday and Sunday, I am open to most any time from tomorrow through next Monday. Give me a call if you think you can help, 910-257-1842. I know this is a busy time of year for everyone, but I would appreciate the help if possible. Thanks. Craig Gallenbach RV8AQB ....... tryin' to make the big pieces fit together ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:22 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Sounds good to me! They did mine too. They were impressed by "that Dynon thing". - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:22 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's Toy just > passed it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes Avionics. Good > job. Nice people. Good price. $75. I promised them all > Larry would give them a ride. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow or > Friday. Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come > Christmas :-) > > -Stormy > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Congrats!! - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:20 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > --> > > Speaking of Merry Christmas, I'm now the proud owner of Scott > Keadle's 8. (how quick was that, Cappy?) Looking real forward > to many 200 mph days. Wife is even willing to go since back > seat is huge compared to 4. Will likely take it to next > months LAL deal if I can learn to grease those ldgs. by then...bill c. > (Reno Red 2) > > --- Steve Glasgow wrote: > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > > Glasgow" > > > > Don't forget there is help is you need it. Cappy's Toy just passed > > it's Transponder check at Twin Lakes Avionics. Good job. Nice > > people. Good price. > > $75. I promised them all Larry would give them a ride. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: sportav8r@aol.com > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:06 PM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Altitude hold is on the way > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > sportav8r@aol.com > > > > Trio shipped my unit yesterday; should be here tomorrow > or Friday. > > Looks like I'll be on my belly in the tailcone come Christmas :-) > > > > -Stormy > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:48 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I might be able to come down on Monday. I wouldn't 'final trim' them until those rear bolts are in. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig [mailto:craigtxtx@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:37 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Craig > > I am now officially frustrated. After several days of > measuring, trimming, test fitting and generally scratching my > head and pondering, I am still no closer to figuring out how > to make these flaps fit well. I have the wings installed for > the first time and am in the process of preparing to drill > the sacred rear spar bolt holes. Per Van's instructions, I > am also test fitting the flaps. With the wing set up > properly (I think), the left flap fits reasonably well, but > is about 1/8" below the fuselage bottom in the up position. > The trailing edge of the right flap ends up about 1/4" lower > than the trailing edge of the left flap. This is a very > noticeable difference. Also, I may have trimmed too much off > of the inboard end of the top flap skin........ not sure if > the flap fairing will cover that........ if I can figure out > how to make the flap fairing work at all with the current flap fit up. > > In short, I really need to look at one that actually works > and would greatly appreciate someone who has done this before > laying an eyeball on mine. If any of you 8/8A drivers need > a destination to fly to and have time to stop by 6NC3, > Eastover Air Ranch in Fayetteville in the coming days, I > would greatly appreciate some advice. Lunch is on me of > course! With the exception of Saturday and Sunday, I am open > to most any time from tomorrow through next Monday. Give me > a call if you think you can help, 910-257-1842. > > I know this is a busy time of year for everyone, but I > would appreciate the help if possible. > > Thanks. > > Craig Gallenbach > RV8AQB ....... tryin' to make the big pieces fit together > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:38 PM PST US From: Craig Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Craig Steve, The flap actuation rods are not in, but the flaps line up with the ailerons in the "in trail" position. I understand that is the full up position. Craig ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:47 PM PST US From: Craig Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Need some help ....... RV8/8A flaps --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Craig Larry, Monday would work if you can make it. Let me know as the time gets closer. I have pretty much resolved not to cut any more on anything until I figure out what is wrong. Thanks, Craig ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:12 PM PST US From: "ben burril" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" The point i was making ed was that we are flying experimental for the same reason you are.My plane has not caught on fire ether,but i have personal knowledge of a few rx7,s on fire.The point is if you find something as good as the high dollar stuff why not use it. Ben----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > > Well, one reason, Ben, is my engine has never caught fire {:>) The second > (actually the first reason) was I prefer the reliability and robustness of > the rotary. The third reason was fewer $$. and the fourth (but certainly not > last) reason was - I really do like to experiment - but, not with brake > fluid {:>). > > Ed A > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ben burril" > To: > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" > > > > > > Ed, you say use the fluid designed for the task.I was wondering why you > > did > > not use the engine DESIGNED for the task. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ed Anderson" > > To: > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid > > > > > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > > > >> > >> Good question, Larry. > >> > >> I guess there are several reasons for my decision (with some supporting > > comments - but not proof - in italics) > >> > >> 1. Not certain how insurance company would handle any possible claim > > resulting from a brake failure if you were not using an hydraulic fluid > > approved for "Aircraft" brakes. > >> > >> 2. There is still some questions about the suitability of some of the > > other fluids as candidates. For instance I have read (don't know if its a > > fact or not) that DOT 5 can absorb moisture over time which can cause > > corrosion of aluminum brake parts (automobiles use steel parts). > >> > >> I would be careful with ATF. The high detergent level may or may not be > > compatible with seals. Why not use a fluid DESIGNED for the task. > >> > >> 3. Cold weather may affect the operation of the ATV > >> I tried using ATF, as I'd also read good reports on it, however recently > >> I > >> had to fill the system after changing the tires & brakes and found that > >> it > >> was impossible to fill the system at -15C, so with great difficulty I > > purged > >> and flushed the ATF out of the system and am now using DOT5. ATF may be > >> suitable for use in warmer climates, but didn't cut it up here in the > > frozen > >> north. > >> > >> > >> Now I am unlikely (I hope) to ever be operating where the temps are - > > 15C!!!, but thought it was interesting. > >> > >> > >> But, the biggest reason is I did not want to make it easy for an > >> insurance > > company to invalidate any claim that might arise. > >> > >> Ed A > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > Why did you decide against the more readily available Mobil1 synthetic > > ATF > >> > option that others are using? Just curious.... > >> > > >> > - > >> > Larry Bowen > >> > Larry@BowenAero.com > >> > http://BowenAero.com > >> > > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com] > >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:25 PM > >> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: > >> >> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > >> >> > >> >> thanks, Ed. will see if I can do that fairly soon; I need ot > >> >> pay some attention to my brakes soon - time for replacement > >> >> pads after 540 hours. > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Ed Anderson > >> >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > >> >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > >> >> --> > >> >> > >> >> Stormy, I have a gallon of the stuff and more than willing to > >> >> share it as there is more there than I would probably use in > >> >> a flying life time {:>). If we can arrange to meet at Goose > >> >> Creek (28A) where I keep the stuff (bring your own container) > >> >> sometimes when you are flying (or driving as far as that > >> >> goes), I'll be more than happy to fill it up. > >> >> > >> >> Ed > >> >> > >> >> Ed Anderson > >> >> Matthews, NC > >> >> > >> >> . > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: > >> >> To: > >> >> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > >> >> > > >> >> > Was someone in the group saying they had some of the new > >> >> hi-temp brake > >> >> > fluid in quantity and willing to divvy it up among the rest of us? > >> >> > > >> >> > I was fixin' to order a gallon of it otherwise; then I can > >> >> be the one to > >> >> > share :-) > >> >> > > >> >> > MIL-PRF-83282; Royco 782 > >> >> > > >> >> > -Stormy > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:54 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" I do agree, Ben, if you find something as good as the high dollar hydraulic fluid that is fully compatible with our brake systems (even if you have to change seals in the master cylinders as well as the calipers), its probably worth it. However, I did not want to find myself needing brake fluid at some far flung airport and they not having anything compatible. With the MIL-H-83282 in my system, I can easily find and top off (or fill up) with the standard 5605 and no harm done and in the mean time I have some better degree of fire protection. Might not be that easy with some of the other fluids. However, I personally feel that by going to the SS braided brake lines I've have considerably reduced the probably of ever needing the higher flash point stuff - but just in case {:>). Just my 0.02 worth. Ed > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" > > > The point i was making ed was that we are flying experimental for the same > reason you are.My plane has not caught on fire ether,but i have personal > knowledge of a few rx7,s on fire.The point is if you find something as > good > as the high dollar stuff why not use it. > Ben----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Anderson" > To: > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Brake Fluid > >