---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/14/06: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:47 AM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Steve Glasgow) 2. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Marcus Cooper) 3. 07:59 AM - Sunday (Lenleg@aol.com) 4. 10:05 AM - Re: Sunday (sportav8r@aol.com) 5. 11:24 AM - Trying to finish RV-6 (Jordan Grant) 6. 11:56 AM - Re: Trying to finish RV-6 (Steve Glasgow) 7. 11:57 AM - Re: Sunday (Steve Glasgow) 8. 02:38 PM - Re: Working on experimentals (Robbie Walker) 9. 03:00 PM - Re: Sunday (WVSWIFT@aol.com) 10. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Larry Bowen) 11. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (l-fussell) 12. 04:11 PM - Re: Sunday (sportav8r@aol.com) 13. 04:22 PM - Re: Working on experimentals (sportav8r@aol.com) 14. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Marcus Cooper) 15. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Radomir Zaric) 16. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Marcus Cooper) 17. 04:50 PM - need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV (sportav8r@aol.com) 18. 05:18 PM - Re: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV (Radomir Zaric) 19. 05:48 PM - Re: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV (sportav8r@aol.com) 20. 06:41 PM - MTV lunch (sportav8r@aol.com) 21. 06:43 PM - Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek (Ron and Shannon AWAD) 22. 08:03 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 23. 08:06 PM - Re: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek (Larry Bowen) 24. 08:06 PM - Re: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek (Larry Bowen) 25. 08:06 PM - Re: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek (Larry Bowen) 26. 08:32 PM - Re: Re: RUQ Paint (Marcus Cooper) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:23 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" OK, so we will plan to depart RUQ around 3 PM. I will probably come a little early to hold your hand before you walk (fly) off on your first born. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" 3 will be good. Not sure how it's going to work really. Never done this before. I need to choose colors and may help get started on disassembly. It's going to be tough leaving my first born with strangers and walking away....... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:54 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > Will you already be there and doing some prep work or just > dropping Nifty off? > > I can do 4PM but 3 PM will be much better so I can get home > for dinner. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:02 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > Let's plan on 4PM Monday. Will that work for you? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:20 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: wx > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > --> > > > > The 16th is a Saturday for me. You pick the time you > want me at RUQ. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:00 AM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" Larry, I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? Thanks, Marcus ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:18 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com I am planning to fly on Sunday ... whether it is formation practice or lunch at MTV ... I will be in the air .... Len ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:55 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com That would be fun. I have an annual business meeting at church that will make it difficult to get to MTV within a reasonable lunchtime, but keep me posted if you might be in the area afterwards where I can link up. That said, I need to check sod condx after last night's big storm. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Lenleg@aol.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:58:55 EST Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com I am planning to fly on Sunday ... whether it is formation practice or lunch at MTV ... I will be in the air .... Len ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:16 AM PST US From: Jordan Grant Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Jordan Grant Everyone: I have two problems one of you may be able to help me with. Problem 1) I need to do the weight & balance on my RV-6 and I haven't found a set of scales, yet. Does anyone know where I can borrow a airplane scale in the Goldsboro, NC area? Problem 2) I have an engine that is not running well. I have test run my XP-360 twice, and both times it has run very rough at idle. It will quit when I pull the throttle back below 1000 RPM. I have a constant speed propeller, Airflow Performance fuel injection, Lightspeed Electronic Ignition, and an impulse coupled mag on the left side. Its a brand new engine built by Aerosport Power. When it starts, it has a puff of black smoke and it sounds like its backfiring or something when it runs (loud popping sounds). Runs about the same on the mag as the Lightspeed - but fewer "popping" sounds on the Lightspeed. I am not very smart on engines, so I'm not good at diagnosing the problem here. My going in theory is that the Airflow Performance idle mixture adjustment is set too rich - does this sound right for my symptoms? Thanks if anyone can help - I sure appreciate it. I am about to deploy to Southwest Asia for a few months, so I would really like to get this airplane flying before I go!! Jordan Grant N198G, RV-6 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:21 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" I can find some scales if you want to drive to Lake Norman, north of Charlotte. Sorry can't help on the engine, I'm carburated. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 704-362-0005 704-281-7884 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jordan Grant To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Jordan Grant Everyone: I have two problems one of you may be able to help me with. Problem 1) I need to do the weight & balance on my RV-6 and I haven't found a set of scales, yet. Does anyone know where I can borrow a airplane scale in the Goldsboro, NC area? Problem 2) I have an engine that is not running well. I have test run my XP-360 twice, and both times it has run very rough at idle. It will quit when I pull the throttle back below 1000 RPM. I have a constant speed propeller, Airflow Performance fuel injection, Lightspeed Electronic Ignition, and an impulse coupled mag on the left side. Its a brand new engine built by Aerosport Power. When it starts, it has a puff of black smoke and it sounds like its backfiring or something when it runs (loud popping sounds). Runs about the same on the mag as the Lightspeed - but fewer "popping" sounds on the Lightspeed. I am not very smart on engines, so I'm not good at diagnosing the problem here. My going in theory is that the Airflow Performance idle mixture adjustment is set too rich - does this sound right for my symptoms? Thanks if anyone can help - I sure appreciate it. I am about to deploy to Southwest Asia for a few months, so I would really like to get this airplane flying before I go!! Jordan Grant N198G, RV-6 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:06 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" So be there at 2 after we have all eaten. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com That would be fun. I have an annual business meeting at church that will make it difficult to get to MTV within a reasonable lunchtime, but keep me posted if you might be in the area afterwards where I can link up. That said, I need to check sod condx after last night's big storm. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:58:55 EST Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com I am planning to fly on Sunday ... whether it is formation practice or lunch at MTV ... I will be in the air .... Len ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:11 PM PST US From: Robbie Walker Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker re: Dad... We work together. He's the general manager and I'm the assistant manager of our printing plant. Usually when he's out doing something I have to be at the office covering and vicee-versee... It's actually pretty rare that we get to do anything non-work related together, although we've both started working out together in the mornings which is a nice change. We did catch a few nice Striped Bass off of Kitty Hawk over Christmas, too. No one who hasn't experienced it will ever understand the stress that gets placed on a relationship by working together. I left back in '98 and only came back to work here in '03 after my "entrepreneur experiment" (it's a REAL long, sad story! ). By that time I'd had a lot of the arrogance of youth beaten out of me and dad was a lot more mellow, so we get along great now. He's looking at retirement in a few years so I'm working my rear off trying to prepare to be as good at his job as I am at mine... He's promised to go flying with me when I get my plane built... re: Rednecks. My mom just got back from the Appalachians. Her family is from Tellico Plains, TN very near the NC/SC/TN corner. Eric Rudolph territory. Robbie Walker ______________________________ God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board. -- Mark Twain On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:32 PM, sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > My understanding is that, in medieval lore, triacle was the fabled > universal cure for everything. Perhaps it's similar to El Dorado > and the Fountain of Youth. > > MYELAVIL; I hear you ;-) > > We've got rednecks aplenty here, very similar to hillbillies... you > can't swing a dead cat hereabouts without hittin' one. > > Enjoy the boat show, and the time with your Dad - make that count. > > -Stormy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robbie Walker > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:18:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker > > > "A salve against some malady" is my attempt at a definition of > triacle after perusing the various (and quite limited) google > results. That reminds me of a local pharmacist who's license plate > (on his Porsche) reads "MYELAVIL"... > > Perhaps some hillbilly witchdoctor has put a hex on you? My family > comes from Tellico Plains, TN and if your manse is similarly > ensconced, I wouldn't be surprised if you had a few living in the > immediate surroundings! > > Sorry about Lakeland. Y'all have a good weekend anyway. I'm going to > the boat show in Myrtle Beach this weekend. My dad and I will be at > the in-water show at the new Grande Dunes marina on the waterway at > the north end of Myrtle Beach proper on Saturday morning. They have a > bunch of exhibits at the convention center too. > > Robbie Walker > ______________________________ > Take everything you like seriously, except yourselves. > -- Rudyard Kipling > > > On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:40 AM, sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com >> >> Nice idea for a name, Robbie. I've entertained hundreds of >> possibilities for mine over the years, but never painted anything >> on, so far. I'm thinking of "Rubbish" or possibly "Triacle" for >> now. That second one should get you Googling ;-) >> >> So far, though, the nose is devoid of art. >> >> The callsign comes from my ability to jinx the wx for any event I >> plan to attend, e.g. Lakeland this weekend. >> >> -Stormy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robbie Walker >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:30:12 -0500 >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >> >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker >> >> >> OH! I didn't realize that was you, Bill! The N-Number did it for me. >> Sorry for the confusion! >> These "callsign" thing-a-majigs are SOOO CONFUSING! Is it the plane >> or the pilot? Is it both? Does it depend? >> >> Oh, and for the record, I call dibbs on "The High Road" for my >> airplane's name. I'm going to paint the tail in my family tartan, and >> have an airbrush guy put some sexist "highland wench" art on the >> nose. >> >> What can I say? I'm a traditionalist! >> >> Robbie Walker >> ______________________________ >> They are ill discoverers that think there is no land, when they can >> see nothing but sea. >> -- Sir Francis Bacon >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2006, at 9:55 PM, sportav8r@aol.com wrote: >> >>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com >>> >>> Au contraire, Robbie; I have a Green Sea Fly-In certificate from >>> you. >>> >>> We've met; the pleasure was apparently all mine ;-) >>> >>> Stormy / N30YD >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Robbie Walker >>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:22:18 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >>> >>> >>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker >>> >>> >>> Guys I certainly wasn't trying to start anything. When I "were >>> learnin'" about homebuilding I noticed this particular aspect of the >>> maintenance rules and it stuck with me. Certainly interesting stuff. >>> >>> Stormy (who I don't think I've ever met...), I agree with you in >>> principle. One of the other lists I follow is the Quad-City >>> Challenger list. At one time I was considering that plane as a >>> "starter homebuilt". One of the more tragic stories related on that >>> list was of a dentist and his wife. Apparently this couple was as >>> nice & decent as you'd ever meet. The dentist was a very good stick >>> too. In an effort to increase the travel of his elevator he moved >>> the >>> pivot attach to the other side of the elevator. With no mechanical >>> stop in the design, his modification allowed him (and his wife) to >>> take off, but they didn't survive the crash. The elevator "flipped" >>> over. >>> >>> It seems pointless to discuss the merits of the idea after their >>> tragic death, but the lesson from this mistake is obvious. >>> >>> NB: I've probably got the details of the story wrong, but the >>> gist is >>> accurate and sobering. >>> >>> Robbie Walker >>> ______________________________ >>> I can speak French but I cannot understand it. >>> -- Mark Twain >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, sportav8r@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com >>>> >>>> Let me add that I'd be okay with all this if an A&P sign-off was >>>> required before returning the plane to service, vs. once a year, >>>> but that is obviously not the case. Apparently a Repairman Cert is >>>> not especially useful or distinguishing to its holder more than >>>> once per annum. I wonder if that was the original intent. >>>> >>>> -Stormy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ron and Shannon AWAD >>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >>>> Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:22:00 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >>>> >>>> >>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Stormy I disagree >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ron Awad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: sportav8r@aol.com >>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:33:17 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com >>>>> >>>>> I think it depends on what is meant by "work on it." Sure, you >>>>> can add >>>>> oil, and air the tires, but you can't replace avionics or >>>>> install an >>>>> autopilot or build a cooling plenum without the required >>>>> credentials. >>>>> IIRC, without the repaiman cert or an A&P license, it's no >>>>> different that >>>>> what spam owners are allowed to do as "owner maintenance." >>>>> >>>>> My $.02 >>>>> >>>>> -Stormy >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Ron and Shannon AWAD >>>>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:45:34 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dale, that was what I had heard many times before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ron Awad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: "Dale Ensing" >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals >>>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:24:55 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You do not have to be the builder of the airplane to work on it. >>>>>> If you >>>>>> sell >>>>>> an airplane the new owner can work on it. The Condition >>>>>> Inspection can >>>>> only >>>>>> be done by the person holding the Repairman Certificate or an an >>>>>> A&P. >>>>>> The Repairman Certificate gives you the privilege of doing the >>>>>> Condition >>>>>> Inspection on only the designated airplane. >>>>>> Dale Ensing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:58 PM PST US From: WVSWIFT@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com South Carolina Breakfast Club breakfast Sunday at Lancaster, SC ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:57 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I'll be using these guys at RUQ: http://www.aircraftpaintingandinteriors.com/ http://www.aircraftpaintschemes.com/paint_shop_locator_detail.asp?ShopID=212 When I visited the shop mid December there were probably 15 people busily working on two aircraft. Ken Silverman is the owner and seems to be eager to do an RV. There is an AI on staff, former US Air mechanic. He be doing the disassembly/assembly. I have high hopes... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Cooper [mailto:coop85@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:51 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > --> > > Larry, > I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could > you post some info about who is painting your machine so I > can talk to them? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:35 PM PST US From: "l-fussell" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "l-fussell" Marcus, The shop I am using is Tri-d located in Elmore AL near Montgomery. I have seen both their paint and interior work both are excellent. Here is the Site: www.tri-d.us Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Cooper" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > > > Larry, > I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some > info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:11:10 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com That's a possibility, if the runway dries overnight. Right now it's making a sucking sound when I walk to and fro upon it :-) I've had near-loss of directional control when pushing the envelope of runway firmness; it ain't pretty. Anyway, I'm having fun designing my electrical system on Excel tonight, and reading by the fireside about How to Fly IFR... -Stormy visions of glass cockpits ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... -----Original Message----- From: Steve Glasgow Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:54:06 -0500 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" So be there at 2 after we have all eaten. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com That would be fun. I have an annual business meeting at church that will make it difficult to get to MTV within a reasonable lunchtime, but keep me posted if you might be in the area afterwards where I can link up. That said, I need to check sod condx after last night's big storm. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:58:55 EST Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com I am planning to fly on Sunday ... whether it is formation practice or lunch at MTV ... I will be in the air .... Len ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:33 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com I hope I get to hear your story sometime; we've all got one (or two or three). I saw some of those difficulties coming a long way off and decided, after following very reluctantly and belatedly on the same career path as my Dad, not to continue my training in the same town where he was in practice, and not to join his group when I got finished. It was hard for alot of people to understand why I didn't take that opportunity when it came my way, but we're all glad now that he's retired and we are able to live in the country literally next door on the farm. -Stormy time to clip this message; it's dragging ten pages of quotes behind it :-) -----Original Message----- From: Robbie Walker Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:37:32 -0500 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Working on experimentals --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Robbie Walker re: Dad... We work together. He's the general manager and I'm the assistant manager of our printing plant. Usually when he's out doing something I have to be at the office covering and vicee-versee... It's actually pretty rare that we get to do anything non-work related together, although we've both started working out together in the mornings which is a nice change. We did catch a few nice Striped Bass off of Kitty Hawk over Christmas, too. No one who hasn't experienced it will ever understand the stress that gets placed on a relationship by working together. I left back in '98 and only came back to work here in '03 after my "entrepreneur experiment" (it's a REAL long, sad story! ). By that time I'd had a lot of the arrogance of youth beaten out of me and dad was a lot more mellow, so we get along great now. He's looking at retirement in a few years so I'm working my rear off trying to prepare to be as good at his job as I am at mine... He's promised to go flying with me when I get my plane built... re: Rednecks. My mom just got back from the Appalachians. Her family is from Tellico Plains, TN very near the NC/SC/TN corner. Eric Rudolph territory. Robbie Walker ______________________________ God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board. -- Mark Twain ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:28 PM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" Thanks for both of the contacts, I'll check them out. I'll probably have to paint it myself, but it sure would be nice to avoid that. My previous experiences were mediocre at best. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of l-fussell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "l-fussell" Marcus, The shop I am using is Tri-d located in Elmore AL near Montgomery. I have seen both their paint and interior work both are excellent. Here is the Site: www.tri-d.us Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Cooper" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > > > Larry, > I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some > info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:29 PM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" The owner of the RUQ shop mentioned on one of the lists that RV-10 painting would start at around 12k... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of l-fussell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "l-fussell" Marcus, The shop I am using is Tri-d located in Elmore AL near Montgomery. I have seen both their paint and interior work both are excellent. Here is the Site: www.tri-d.us Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Cooper" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > > > Larry, > I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some > info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:06 PM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" In case anyone else is looking for a paint shop, I received the following e-mail from GLO Paint who advertises on the Vans Air Force website: Hello Marcus, Our RV-10s run about $8000 to $8500 out the door. the scheme and the fiberglass work that is left if any. Your down time is around 4 weeks. Our next slot is the middle of July. We require a 10% deposit to hold your slot so let us know if we can help you if you have any other questions fill free to call us at 817-4302078. Thanks Grady -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Radomir Zaric Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:32 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" The owner of the RUQ shop mentioned on one of the lists that RV-10 painting would start at around 12k... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of l-fussell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "l-fussell" Marcus, The shop I am using is Tri-d located in Elmore AL near Montgomery. I have seen both their paint and interior work both are excellent. Here is the Site: www.tri-d.us Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Cooper" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > > > Larry, > I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some > info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Armed with info gleaned from the AeroElectric list and elsewhere on the web, I went alternator-shopping at the local auto parts stores today, to see how close I could get to the recommended 70 A machine that goes by part number Lester 13353 or NipponDenso 121000-346. If I had not had the additional tidbit that it fits a '93 Dodge Ramcharger 5.2 liter pickup, I think the parts counter clerks would have been helpless to assist me. The choices that came up "in stock" were limited to one: the Dodge's optional 90 amp externally-regulated machine (reman) with a serpentine pulley, in a 125mm case. My quest for a VR-166 Ford regulator also ended with a substitute, the Sorensen VR-301. The alternator comes with its own computer-generated test output graph and data table, indicating it is capable of 126 amps at 6000 rpm, and draws 5.72 amps of field current at that output. It seems to weigh about 11 lbs on the bathroom scales. Already I'm thinking this might be more of a fire-breathing machine than I should bolt to my RV, even if it's a physical fit, which I think it will be. I'm not sure the electronic regulator will necessarily "handle" it, but not sure why it wouldn't. I don't need anywhere near the output this alternator is capable of, and I don't want my 5 amp field breaker nuisance-tripping because the field happens to want near that amount (no idea how linear the field current vs output curve might be, so no way to know field current at closer to 50-60 amps, for example.) Finally, I'm unsure how easily the V-pulley from my original Van's 35 A machine will slip onto the shaft of the new alternator. Any takers on that one? When I make the swap, I'd like to have everything go smoothly with a minimum of downtime. Basically, I'd like some reassurance that this is worth trying. I can always take it back and order the Dodge 70 amp alternator; same physical size, and ironically more money. Advice appreciated, friends. Thanks. -Bill Boyd RV-6A O-320 FP ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:37 PM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" Whatcha gonna do with all those amps Stormy? What kind of loads are you anticipating? Radomir -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportav8r@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:50 PM rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Armed with info gleaned from the AeroElectric list and elsewhere on the web, I went alternator-shopping at the local auto parts stores today, to see how close I could get to the recommended 70 A machine that goes by part number Lester 13353 or NipponDenso 121000-346. If I had not had the additional tidbit that it fits a '93 Dodge Ramcharger 5.2 liter pickup, I think the parts counter clerks would have been helpless to assist me. The choices that came up "in stock" were limited to one: the Dodge's optional 90 amp externally-regulated machine (reman) with a serpentine pulley, in a 125mm case. My quest for a VR-166 Ford regulator also ended with a substitute, the Sorensen VR-301. The alternator comes with its own computer-generated test output graph and data table, indicating it is capable of 126 amps at 6000 rpm, and draws 5.72 amps of field current at that output. It seems to weigh about 11 lbs on the bathroom scales. Already I'm thinking this might be more of a fire-breathing machine than I should bolt to my RV, even if it's a physical fit, which I think it will be. I'm not sure the electronic regulator will necessarily "handle" it, but not sure why it wouldn't. I don't need anywhere near the output this alternator is capable of, and I don't want my 5 amp field breaker nuisance-tripping because the field happens to want near that amount (no idea how linear the field current vs output curve might be, so no way to know field current at closer to 50-60 amps, for example.) Finally, I'm unsure how easily the V-pulley from my original Van's 35 A machine will slip onto the shaft of the new alternator. Any takers on that one? When I make the swap, I'd like to have everything go smoothly with a minimum of downtime. Basically, I'd like some reassurance that this is worth trying. I can always take it back and order the Dodge 70 amp alternator; same physical size, and ironically more money. Advice appreciated, friends. Thanks. -Bill Boyd RV-6A O-320 FP ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:05 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Don't exactly know, Radomir, but I trust it will put and end to the pulsating radio and instrument lights I have now with the 35 amp unit, and the low volts warning light that comes on after a minute with the landing lights on :-) -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Radomir Zaric Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:17:59 -0500 Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" Whatcha gonna do with all those amps Stormy? What kind of loads are you anticipating? Radomir -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportav8r@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:50 PM rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Armed with info gleaned from the AeroElectric list and elsewhere on the web, I went alternator-shopping at the local auto parts stores today, to see how close I could get to the recommended 70 A machine that goes by part number Lester 13353 or NipponDenso 121000-346. If I had not had the additional tidbit that it fits a '93 Dodge Ramcharger 5.2 liter pickup, I think the parts counter clerks would have been helpless to assist me. The choices that came up "in stock" were limited to one: the Dodge's optional 90 amp externally-regulated machine (reman) with a serpentine pulley, in a 125mm case. My quest for a VR-166 Ford regulator also ended with a substitute, the Sorensen VR-301. The alternator comes with its own computer-generated test output graph and data table, indicating it is capable of 126 amps at 6000 rpm, and draws 5.72 amps of field current at that output. It seems to weigh about 11 lbs on the bathroom scales. Already I'm thinking this might be more of a fire-breathing machine than I should bolt to my RV, even if it's a physical fit, which I think it will be. I'm not sure the electronic regulator will necessarily "handle" it, but not sure why it wouldn't. I don't need anywhere near the output this alternator is capable of, and I don't want my 5 amp field breaker nuisance-tripping because the field happens to want near that amount (no idea how linear the field current vs output curve might be, so no way to know field current at closer to 50-60 amps, for example.) Finally, I'm unsure how easily the V-pulley from my original Van's 35 A machine will slip onto the shaft of the new alternator. Any takers on that one? When I make the swap, I'd like to have everything go smoothly with a minimum of downtime. Basically, I'd like some reassurance that this is worth trying. I can always take it back and order the Dodge 70 amp alternator; same physical size, and ironically more money. Advice appreciated, friends. Thanks. -Bill Boyd RV-6A O-320 FP ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:41 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: MTV lunch --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Just checked wind forecast; MTV should be 15G25 on the surface and 40-50 at 3000 AGL at 1500Z tomorrow. Pull your shoulder straps down real tight, Cappy. Don't want you getting a cracked canopy. Oh, and eat light ;-) Conditions later in the afternoon should be much better. I'll hook up with the gang if possible. -Stormy ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:15 PM PST US From: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" Not sure if Ed is back yet. He knows about it though..... Will need to get a RV get -2- gether at Goose Creek to help ED clean this thing up. If you want to see pictures, click on this address http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7204 Ron Awad >From: Lenleg@aol.com >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:58:55 EST > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > >I am planning to fly on Sunday ... whether it is formation practice or >lunch >at MTV ... I will be in the air .... > >Len > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:40 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 01/14/2006 8:51:51 AM Central Standard Time, coop85@bellsouth.net writes: I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? >>> Hi Marcus- Here's my story, FWIW: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5294 click >>Next Entry>> for more, then go to: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5270 and again, click >>Next entry>> at top of each page for a look at my entire experience. Believe me, I debated long and hard before I decided to go this route and after all was sed&dun, glad I did it! Give me a holler if ya want to know more... Mark Phillips - Columbia, TN ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:01 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Yikes. Not good. Glad he wasn't home at the time. Let us know when we can help. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron and Shannon AWAD [mailto:sawad13@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:43 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" > --> > > > Not sure if Ed is back yet. He knows about it though..... > Will need to get a RV get -2- gether at Goose Creek to help > ED clean this thing up. > > If you want to see pictures, click on this address > > http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7204 > > > Ron Awad ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:19 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Yikes. Not good. Glad he wasn't home at the time. Let us know when we can help. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron and Shannon AWAD [mailto:sawad13@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:43 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" > --> > > > Not sure if Ed is back yet. He knows about it though..... > Will need to get a RV get -2- gether at Goose Creek to help > ED clean this thing up. > > If you want to see pictures, click on this address > > http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7204 > > > Ron Awad ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:20 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Yikes. Not good. Glad he wasn't home at the time. Let us know when we can help. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron and Shannon AWAD [mailto:sawad13@msn.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:43 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wind blew down a Hangar at Goose Creek > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" > --> > > > Not sure if Ed is back yet. He knows about it though..... > Will need to get a RV get -2- gether at Goose Creek to help > ED clean this thing up. > > If you want to see pictures, click on this address > > http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7204 > > > Ron Awad ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:44 PM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" Mark, Thanks for the info, your machine is amazing! I will definitely give them a shout. I'm a bit further away, but it might be worth it. Thanks again, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:03 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: RUQ Paint --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 01/14/2006 8:51:51 AM Central Standard Time, coop85@bellsouth.net writes: I'm debating about having someone paint my RV-10. Could you post some info about who is painting your machine so I can talk to them? >>> Hi Marcus- Here's my story, FWIW: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5294 click >>Next Entry>> for more, then go to: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5270 and again, click >>Next entry>> at top of each page for a look at my entire experience. Believe me, I debated long and hard before I decided to go this route and after all was sed&dun, glad I did it! Give me a holler if ya want to know more... Mark Phillips - Columbia, TN