---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/15/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:14 AM - Re: Sunday (Steve Glasgow) 2. 05:48 AM - Re: Sunday (Larry Bowen) 3. 05:57 AM - Re: Sunday (bill crothers) 4. 06:03 AM - Re: Sunday (Steve Glasgow) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: Trying to finish RV-6 (ben burril) 6. 11:56 AM - Re: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV (Charles Hagerty) 7. 02:09 PM - Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson) 8. 03:54 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (WVSWIFT@aol.com) 9. 05:06 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson) 10. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Demeylor@aol.com) 11. 05:39 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Terrence Gardner) 12. 07:53 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:32 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red wants to meet up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and maybe for some formation. He is probably right, to stay away from the mountains with the wind and all. If you want to come let me know and I will call you with the time. We won't know till around 11 AM. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glasgow To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday. How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati Sectional) for a late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome. -------- Steve Glasgow-Cappy Cappy's Toy RV-8 N123SG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:07 AM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds. It'll be bumpy going to MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of a x-wind at 43A...... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red wants to meet > up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and maybe for > some formation. He is probably right, to stay away from the > mountains with the wind and all. If you want to come let me > know and I will call you with the time. We won't know till > around 11 AM. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Glasgow > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > > OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday. > > How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati Sectional) for a > late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome. > > -------- > Steve Glasgow-Cappy > Cappy's Toy > RV-8 N123SG > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:15 AM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Any good place suits me. Tried to ck. $100 hamburger site, but its now fee-based...Reno --- Larry Bowen wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > Bowen" > > Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds. > It'll be bumpy going to > MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of > a x-wind at 43A...... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Glasgow > [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > --> > > > > Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red > wants to meet > > up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and > maybe for > > some formation. He is probably right, to stay > away from the > > mountains with the wind and all. If you want to > come let me > > know and I will call you with the time. We won't > know till > > around 11 AM. > > > > Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Glasgow > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > > > > > OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday. > > > > How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati > Sectional) for a > > late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome. > > > > -------- > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy > > Cappy's Toy > > RV-8 N123SG > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:16 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" MTV and 43A are both good places. Larry winds look to be less than 10, will call you when I here from Reno. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: bill crothers To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Any good place suits me. Tried to ck. $100 hamburger site, but its now fee-based...Reno --- Larry Bowen wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > Bowen" > > Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds. > It'll be bumpy going to > MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of > a x-wind at 43A...... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Glasgow > [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > --> > > > > Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red > wants to meet > > up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and > maybe for > > some formation. He is probably right, to stay > away from the > > mountains with the wind and all. If you want to > come let me > > know and I will call you with the time. We won't > know till > > around 11 AM. > > > > Cappy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Glasgow > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday > > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve > Glasgow" > > > > > > OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday. > > > > How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati > Sectional) for a > > late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome. > > > > -------- > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy > > Cappy's Toy > > RV-8 N123SG > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3D3786#3786 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:39 AM PST US From: "ben burril" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" Jordan,it sounds like a wring problem.Have you double ckecked your firing order and the timing? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glasgow" Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > I can find some scales if you want to drive to Lake Norman, north of Charlotte. > > Sorry can't help on the engine, I'm carburated. > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy > N123SG RV-8 > Cappy's Toy > 704-362-0005 > 704-281-7884 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jordan Grant > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:21 PM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6 > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Jordan Grant > > Everyone: > I have two problems one of you may be able to help me with. > > Problem 1) I need to do the weight & balance on my RV-6 and I haven't > found a set of scales, yet. Does anyone know where I can borrow a > airplane scale in the Goldsboro, NC area? > Problem 2) I have an engine that is not running well. I have test run my > XP-360 twice, and both times it has run very rough at idle. It will quit > when I pull the throttle back below 1000 RPM. I have a constant speed > propeller, Airflow Performance fuel injection, Lightspeed Electronic > Ignition, and an impulse coupled mag on the left side. Its a brand new > engine built by Aerosport Power. When it starts, it has a puff of black > smoke and it sounds like its backfiring or something when it runs (loud > popping sounds). Runs about the same on the mag as the Lightspeed - but > fewer "popping" sounds on the Lightspeed. I am not very smart on > engines, so I'm not good at diagnosing the problem here. My going in > theory is that the Airflow Performance idle mixture adjustment is set > too rich - does this sound right for my symptoms? > > Thanks if anyone can help - I sure appreciate it. I am about to deploy > to Southwest Asia for a few months, so I would really like to get this > airplane flying before I go!! > > Jordan Grant > N198G, RV-6 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:30 AM PST US From: "Charles Hagerty" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Hagerty" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > Armed with info gleaned from the AeroElectric list and elsewhere on the > web, I went alternator-shopping at the local auto parts stores today, to > see how close I could get to the recommended 70 A machine that goes by > part number Lester 13353 or NipponDenso 121000-346. If I had not had the > additional tidbit that it fits a '93 Dodge Ramcharger 5.2 liter pickup, I > think the parts counter clerks would have been helpless to assist me. The > choices that came up "in stock" were limited to one: the Dodge's optional > 90 amp externally-regulated machine (reman) with a serpentine pulley, in a > 125mm case. My quest for a VR-166 Ford regulator also ended with a > substitute, the Sorensen VR-301. > > The alternator comes with its own computer-generated test output graph and > data table, indicating it is capable of 126 amps at 6000 rpm, and draws > 5.72 amps of field current at that output. It seems to weigh about 11 lbs > on the bathroom scales. Already I'm thinking this might be more of a > fire-breathing machine than I should bolt to my RV, even if it's a > physical fit, which I think it will be. I'm not sure the electronic > regulator will necessarily "handle" it, but not sure why it wouldn't. I > don't need anywhere near the output this alternator is capable of, and I > don't want my 5 amp field breaker nuisance-tripping because the field > happens to want near that amount (no idea how linear the field current vs > output curve might be, so no way to know field current at closer to 50-60 > amps, for example.) > > Finally, I'm unsure how easily the V-pulley from my original Van's 35 A > machine will slip onto the shaft of the new alternator. Any takers on > that one? When I make the swap, I'd like to have everything go smoothly > with a minimum of downtime. Basically, I'd like some reassurance that > this is worth trying. I can always take it back and order the Dodge 70 > amp alternator; same physical size, and ironically more money. > > Advice appreciated, friends. Thanks. > > -Bill Boyd RV-6A O-320 FP > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:45 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Cc: "Laura Crook" , Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Hi folks, back home after the trip to Florida. It was sort of a good news/bad news trip. Took off Thursday morning about 1015 after ground fog had lifted. Cool morning and engine hit 6200 rpm on take off roll. Landed shortly after 1pm at Shady Bend on Thursday, after making a low 200 MPH pass down the strip. Was welcomed by Tracy's delightful wife Laura as I taxied up to the house. Spend Thursday evening in great company including Jessica, Tracy's grandchild who is staying with them. That was the good news. The bad news {:>) was that Jessica was now occupying the "guest" suite, the good news was Laura had reserved the living room couch for me. The best new was - nobody snored. (different story) During Thursday evening it was clear from looking at the forming weather patterns and despite the favorable forecast of a day earlier, a two pronged front was rapidly advancing on the Southeast. It was clearly looking like any flights from north of Florida on Friday would only happened in the very early morning. Later that evening a small secondary pre front line formed out over the gulf and moved over northern Florida precluding even an early Friday flight. Poor Laura is the one faced with making the decision whether to Postpone the Flyin or not (after all that work). Well, it finally became clear that even if the Flyin was held with mainly Florida attendees, that Saturday was going to be cold, windy and miserable at Lakeland. So Laura made the courageous decision cancel the RV flying. That's the bad news. The good news is it was not cancelled but only postpone until next week end, so those of you still desiring and able to make it, I encourage you to do so. Then Laura had to notify a list of people that would have made the pentagon emergency recall program boggle. But, she pressed on until the job was done. Great lady! I called Cappy early in the morning so he could post the news on the RVSoutheast list. The good news is I got to spend three days at Shady Bend with Tracy and Laura. Managed to help Tracy with a few things on the airplanes, discussed my AOA project and contributed a radiator cap to his RV-4. (Yes, I do fly with a spare). The bad news was I got a phone call from the wife (which was unusual) on Saturday and Laura had clearly detected a stress level in my wife's voice which she let me know when she called me from the work shop. The good news was that the wife was stressed, but there was no tragedy. The bad news was - my wife reported that my hangar had blown away Friday night. Laura reminded me that I ask the wife three times during the conversation to confirm the news {:>). That's right the hangar is gone! The good news is that my aircraft was not there but in Tracy's new hangar. Well, nothing I could do about it, so decided to continue my very enjoyable visit and we all went out to dinner Saturday night. I had attempted to show Tracy my new fuel monitoring system in operation. The bad news was that upon touch down at Shady Bend it stopped working. The good news is I found If I wiggled the cigarette lighter, power would be restored and it would work - so got to show it to Tracy. The bad news was that when I flew back and any time I wanted to check my fuel burn/ Air Fuel ratio, etc, I had to reach across the cockpit and wiggle the cigarette lighter. The good news was that it would then work. I launched out of Shady bend at 0945 with 6500 rpm showing on the tach! Stopped to refuel at Waycross, GA at 1030 and took off again (naturally in to a 25-30 MPH headwind). I normally cruise burning 7 GPH and today that was giving me a ground speed of 138 MPH. I finally said to hell with fuel economy and push the engine up to 10 GPH burn rate. Ground speed moved up from 138 to 168 MPH - that was more like it!. Made it back to North Carolina and home airport at 1230. Made one pass and the bad news was that the bad news had been accurate. The hanger had been lifted up and blown backwards off the concrete slab and crumpled up. The good news was neither hangar to the side was even touched. It was amazing, the storage cabinet was upright, empty cardboard boxes were right where I had left them, empty buckets had not been moved, even paper on my work bench were undisturbed. But, the hangar including my recently installed electrical wiring were all gone in the rubble and the end of the hangar. As Laura had put it, it appeared that I had been hit by a micro-burst, surgical strike (tornadoes had been reported in adjacent county). So the bad news is NO Hangar for my airplane! The good news is a neighbor has room for my aircraft in his hangar. I finally concluded that the gremlins that normally plague my flights missed my take off and couldn't find me so took it out on the hangar. So now have to start deciding what to replace it with. It took me six weeks of day long labor to put up the first Quonset hut standing on scaffolding 15' above the concrete pad back six years ago leaving me with tendenitis in both elbows that took six months to go away. So I am 99 percent certain I am going to have the new hangar built rather than build it myself - life is too short. So have not added up the good news/bad news column, but my aircraft and I can still flying- so that's the best news. Well, that about wraps it up. Otherwise just your ordinary Ed Anderson trip {:>). I will post some photos of the hangar tomorrow - right now, going down to fix myself a cold tall one. Will catch up on any e mails addressed to me tomorrow also. Best Regards Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:11 PM PST US From: WVSWIFT@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com Ed: I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or 7 telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York. Eddie Shields ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:39 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this point. Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time {:>))? Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com > > Ed: > I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or 7 > telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York. > Eddie Shields > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:47 PM PST US From: Demeylor@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com How do I go about Ordering a tail wheel? Dean ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:25 PM PST US From: "Terrence Gardner" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner" Ed, I've built two Quonsets similar to the one you lost. If the foundation is useable I feel sure you, me, and perhaps some flying buddies could put it together in a weekend or two. Hangar Raising! I used an RV(motor home not aircraft) to work off of and we put up full arches. This went real quick about 3 days for the arches(32' deep) with 5 of us. We tightened up nuts with some long fabricated extensions. Just another option, Terry > [Original Message] > From: Ed Anderson > To: > Date: 1/15/2006 8:12:05 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > > Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this point. > Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time {:>))? > Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many > variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out. > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com > > > > Ed: > > I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or 7 > > telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York. > > Eddie Shields > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:51 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Hi Terry, Yes, the foundation is usable - still has the keyway that the edges will sit it - never got the cement pour in them - which of course, is undoubtedly the reason the metal went flying. Won't make that mistake again. I currently looking at what options are the most reasonable from a cost standpoint. I like the Q hut approach and will probably go that way based on some initial cost scratching. It took me six weeks to put one up and that was full days - just don't want to go that route again. Yes, with a crew where you can put up full arches bolted together on the ground and then stand them up - rather than hauling up a sheet at a time on 15' scaffolding would make things go much faster. A number of folks have offer assistant so it might be possible to get a team of 3-4 together for a couple of weekends. In any case, I would be interested in learning about the extension you fabricated to tighten those 1000 and 1 bolts. Appreciate the offer and assuming I go the Q hut route, I'll be back in contact. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terrence Gardner" Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner" > > > Ed, > I've built two Quonsets similar to the one you lost. If the foundation is > useable I feel sure you, me, and perhaps some flying buddies could put it > together in a weekend or two. Hangar Raising! I used an RV(motor home not > aircraft) to work off of and we put up full arches. This went real quick > about 3 days for the arches(32' deep) with 5 of us. We tightened up nuts > with some long fabricated extensions. > Just another option, > Terry > >> [Original Message] >> From: Ed Anderson >> To: >> Date: 1/15/2006 8:12:05 PM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" > >> >> Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this > point. >> Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time > {:>))? >> Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many >> variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out. >> >> Ed >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad >> >> >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com >> > >> > Ed: >> > I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or > 7 >> > telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York. >> > Eddie Shields >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >