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1. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane (Mike.Munn@fluor.com)
2. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane (Steve Glasgow)
3. 07:32 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/04/06 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
4. 05:49 PM - Re: Tads first (AtknBob@AOL.COM)
5. 06:43 PM - Weekend (Larry Bowen)
6. 06:47 PM - Re: Weekend (Lenleg@aol.com)
7. 07:13 PM - Re: liabilty (Dale Ensing)
8. 07:17 PM - Re: Weekend (Dale Ensing)
9. 07:19 PM - Re: Weekend (Larry Bowen)
10. 07:21 PM - liabilty-to Bob Atkinson (BOB MARTIN)
11. 07:27 PM - Re: Liability (Larry Bowen)
12. 07:32 PM - Re: Weekend (Larry Bowen)
13. 08:00 PM - Re: Tads first (Charlie England)
14. 08:10 PM - Re: liabilty-to Bob Atkinson (Ed Anderson)
15. 09:07 PM - Re: Weekend (Dale Ensing)
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| Subject: | Re: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com
That's what tailwheels are for :>)
<tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: <tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
Not too long it's my anti-over-rotation device. Want one on your plane?
>
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> Date: 2006/02/05 Sun PM 07:50:21 EST
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
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> Lookin' good!
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> (That rear tie-down ring look really long or about to fall out. No?)
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> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez@carolina.rr.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 5:15 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane
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> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
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> > We did a quick air-to-air photo session today in bumpy air,
> > but a few photos came out OK.
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| Subject: | Re: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I knew that was coming.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike.Munn@fluor.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com
That's what tailwheels are for :>)
<tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: <tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
Not too long it's my anti-over-rotation device. Want one on your plane?
>
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> Date: 2006/02/05 Sun PM 07:50:21 EST
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
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> Lookin' good!
>
> (That rear tie-down ring look really long or about to fall out. No?)
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Radomir Zaric [mailto:vitez@carolina.rr.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 5:15 PM
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Air-to-air photos of Tad's plane
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> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric"
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> > We did a quick air-to-air photo session today in bumpy air,
> > but a few photos came out OK.
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 02/04/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
Beautiful bird!!! Congratulations!!!
Lee...
Lee Logan
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Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: AtknBob@aol.com
Hello to all:
My name is Bob Atkinson, Lumberton, NJ and I have a question re: a
statement I read on the Serve e-m dated 1/23, posted by Ron Awad.
If I understand the statement a "builder of an aircraft (or his heirs,
estate etc) has a permanent liability to any/and all future owners or passengers
of said airplane", is this correct?
REASON FOR ASKING:
I am contemplating building an RV 7A.
However, in the event of my departure from planet earth, my would want to
dispose of the plane -- having no use for it herself.
I don't wish to place the burden of potential liability upon her and that is
what caught my attention when I read Ron Awad's e-m.
Any answers and or comments would be greatly appreciated and I want to thank
anyone who would take the time to respond.
P S I have been eavesdropping on the Serv em for about two years and I
really do enjoy hearing all of you talk about your experiences and adventures.
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I think everyone was kept away from LKR last weekend due to the winds. So
what is plan B for next Sunday? I'll kick things off by suggesting
Stanton's, and perhaps dropping in at Phil's afterwards. Since I'm without
plane, my 2 cents is worth even less these days, so if you have a better
idea chime in. I'll be with Lima Lima.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I am up for whatever ... would love to return to Stantons and especially
Phils !!
Len
In a message dated 2/6/2006 9:44:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Larry@bowenaero.com writes:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I think everyone was kept away from LKR last weekend due to the winds. So
what is plan B for next Sunday? I'll kick things off by suggesting
Stanton's, and perhaps dropping in at Phil's afterwards. Since I'm without
plane, my 2 cents is worth even less these days, so if you have a better
idea chime in. I'll be with Lima Lima.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Bob Atkinson
The Experimental Aircraft Association has information on how to sell a
homebuilt aircraft but there is nothing that prevents any future
owner/pilot/passenger from persuing the builder should something go wrong.
Suggest you contact the EAA for their input.
http://www.eaa.org/contactus.html
However, to be totally sure of no future liability do not build the
airplane.
Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Larry and Len
Who/where is Phil's?
Dale Ensing
do not archieve
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
PS - There is also the EAA 297 Midwinter Chili Feed at Stag Air Park
(http://airnav.com/airport/7NC1) on Saturday, the 11th.
And Dana's fly-in in KY on the 25th. Fly them hours off Tad!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Bowen [mailto:Larry@bowenaero.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:43 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Weekend
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> --> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I think everyone was kept away from LKR last weekend due to
> the winds. So what is plan B for next Sunday? I'll kick
> things off by suggesting Stanton's, and perhaps dropping in
> at Phil's afterwards. Since I'm without plane, my 2 cents is
> worth even less these days, so if you have a better idea
> chime in. I'll be with Lima Lima.
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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> Photoshare, and much much more:
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| Subject: | liabilty-to Bob Atkinson |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB MARTIN" <libertyva@msn.com>
Bob Atkinson,
You could buy one already built! Then the builders Liability would pass thru your
heirs.
Just an Idea......and it would get you flying much quicker.
Bob Martin
Yes, I bought one.......but not because of the liability factor.......I just wanted
to fly!!!
RV-6, Louisa VA
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Ensing<mailto:densing@carolina.rr.com>
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com<mailto:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: liabilty
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com<mailto:densing@carolina.rr.com>>
Bob Atkinson
The Experimental Aircraft Association has information on how to sell a
homebuilt aircraft but there is nothing that prevents any future
owner/pilot/passenger from persuing the builder should something go wrong.
Suggest you contact the EAA for their input.
http://www.eaa.org/contactus.html<http://www.eaa.org/contactus.html>
However, to be totally sure of no future liability do not build the
airplane.
Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I don't think anyone has been successfully sued in the situation you
suggest. RV's are a proven design. They change hands every day. EAA has
info on how to minimize the risk. Check with them .
Life's short. Chase your dream and build it.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AtknBob@aol.com [mailto:AtknBob@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:48 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Tads first
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: AtknBob@aol.com
>
> To: RVSouthEast-List Members
>
> Hello to all:
>
> My name is Bob Atkinson, Lumberton, NJ and I have a
> question re: a statement I read on the Serve e-m dated 1/23,
> posted by Ron Awad.
>
> If I understand the statement a "builder of an aircraft (or
> his heirs, estate etc) has a permanent liability to any/and
> all future owners or passengers of said airplane", is this correct?
>
> REASON FOR ASKING:
> I am contemplating building an RV 7A.
> However, in the event of my departure from planet earth, my
> would want to dispose of the plane -- having no use for it herself.
> I don't wish to place the burden of potential liability upon
> her and that is what caught my attention when I read Ron Awad's e-m.
>
> Any answers and or comments would be greatly appreciated and
> I want to thank anyone who would take the time to respond.
>
>
> P S I have been eavesdropping on the Serv em for about two
> years and I
> really do enjoy hearing all of you talk about your
> experiences and adventures.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
9 east of Stantons. Smoothest grass strip ever. Long and wide. 20+ timers
hang out there all the time. Big barn philled (get it?) with tractors and
aircraft. Our own Delta-Delta gave it the name "Phil's aerospace and
tractor museum" a couple summers ago. Low pass required before landing.
Good times.....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale Ensing [mailto:densing@carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:18 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Weekend
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> --> <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Larry and Len
> Who/where is Phil's?
> Dale Ensing
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
AtknBob@aol.com wrote:
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: AtknBob@aol.com
>
>To: RVSouthEast-List Members
>
>Hello to all:
>
> My name is Bob Atkinson, Lumberton, NJ and I have a question re: a
>statement I read on the Serve e-m dated 1/23, posted by Ron Awad.
>
>If I understand the statement a "builder of an aircraft (or his heirs,
>estate etc) has a permanent liability to any/and all future owners or passengers
>of said airplane", is this correct?
>
>REASON FOR ASKING:
>I am contemplating building an RV 7A.
>However, in the event of my departure from planet earth, my would want to
>dispose of the plane -- having no use for it herself.
>I don't wish to place the burden of potential liability upon her and that is
>what caught my attention when I read Ron Awad's e-m.
>
>Any answers and or comments would be greatly appreciated and I want to thank
>anyone who would take the time to respond.
>
>
>P S I have been eavesdropping on the Serv em for about two years and I
>really do enjoy hearing all of you talk about your experiences and adventures.
>
>
If you expect to last at least 18 years after it's registered, current
law says your liability as manufacturer will end there. If you crash &
damage something or someone in the meantime, you or your estate still
can be sued, but the same applies to driving a car. (FWIW, the
likelihood of hurting another person, other than a passenger in your
plane, is pretty remote unless you have a ramp incident.)
If your estate can afford to take the financial hit, you/she can scrap
the plane or donate it to a museum with provision that it never be flown.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: liabilty-to Bob Atkinson |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Bob,
You only live once (for certain {:>)). If you ever had a dream of
building/flying your own aircraft, I would say go for it. See a Lawyer and
put your assets in an appropriate trust (remove it from your estate) for
your potential widow. Then build and fly your aircraft. I waited until I
was 59 and only wish I had done it 33 years sooner when I first had the
itch.
That my take on it. Be prudent, but DON'T let the lawyers or threats of
lawsuits (none of which I am aware have ever been successfully take against
a homebuilder) take your dream.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "BOB MARTIN" <libertyva@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: liabilty-to Bob Atkinson
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB MARTIN" <libertyva@msn.com>
>
> Bob Atkinson,
> You could buy one already built! Then the builders Liability would pass
> thru your heirs.
> Just an Idea......and it would get you flying much quicker.
> Bob Martin
> Yes, I bought one.......but not because of the liability factor.......I
> just wanted to fly!!!
> RV-6, Louisa VA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dale Ensing<mailto:densing@carolina.rr.com>
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com<mailto:rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: liabilty
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> <densing@carolina.rr.com<mailto:densing@carolina.rr.com>>
>
> Bob Atkinson
> The Experimental Aircraft Association has information on how to sell a
> homebuilt aircraft but there is nothing that prevents any future
> owner/pilot/passenger from persuing the builder should something go
> wrong.
> Suggest you contact the EAA for their input.
>
> http://www.eaa.org/contactus.html<http://www.eaa.org/contactus.html>
>
> However, to be totally sure of no future liability do not build the
> airplane.
> Dale Ensing
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
I wanna see Phil's! Sat. or Sunday?
Dale
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