---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/11/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:52 AM - Re: AVL BBQ (Steve Glasgow) 2. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Hangar Arriving Sunday () 3. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/07/06 (Dale Ensing) 4. 04:41 PM - Fuel Tank SB (Steve Glasgow) 5. 05:52 PM - Hangar Schedule? (Ed Anderson) 6. 07:48 PM - Re: Electrical systems seminar. (Charles Hagerty) 7. 08:00 PM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (Larry Bowen) 8. 08:31 PM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (sportav8r@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:10 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: AVL BBQ --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Thursday, Friday, home on Saturday AM. We can slide to Wednesday if desired. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: AVL BBQ --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" What made you decide to do it before SNF? Last I heard you were going to do it afterward.... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:33 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: AVL BBQ > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > What's another week! Cappy's Toy is down for fuel tank SB. > I will write something explaining the process when I finish. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:58 PM > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: AVL BBQ > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > I called them today. It's just about done. Which means > it's close, but > it'll be next week before I get it back. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:53 AM > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: AVL BBQ > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > > --> > > > > r u picking up ur plane this wkend (we hopw so) you'll be > > over your funk.. > > > > --- Larry Bowen wrote: > > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > > > Bowen" > > > > > > What time are we expected to meet at AVL for the BBQ lunch? > > > > > > Also, there is a RV-6 builder in my EAA chapter that is > > looking for a > > > ride to the lunch from Salisbury, NC (RUQ). Anyone have an > > open seat? > > > > > > -- > > > Larry Bowen > > > Larry@BowenAero.com > > > http://BowenAero.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > > > Subscriptions page, > > > FAQ, > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:52 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Arriving Sunday --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Yes Eddie, 2 weeks ago, Would you like to go for a ride? Tad > > From: WVSWIFT@aol.com > Date: 2006/03/10 Fri PM 11:11:53 EST > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Arriving Sunday > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com > > TAD: > You already have your time flown off? > Eddie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:12 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/07/06 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Lee Where is Plantation Airpark located in the Savannah area? Dale Ensing ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:47 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" A bitch but doable without removing the tank. All total, 10-12 man hours to do the left tank. Experience will help when Cappy does the right one. Start by getting all the parts you need from Van's. Cork gaskets for the big hole, rubber gaskets for the fuel sender, 2 small jars or peo-seal (really nice and just enough) and whatever screws you want to use. Ground the plane. I have a grounding wire I made and one ground bar if anyone wants to borrow them. Next, I siphoned as much 100LL out as I could, then I un-screwed the drain valve and drained the remainder into a fuel can. Next, I vented the tank by holding a vacuum set to blow in the fuel cap hole for about 5 minutes. After the tank was vented I started to remove the old pro-seal before I even tried to open the tank which kept the trash out as much as possible. I had used way to much pro-seal the first time so I had a pain removing it. I found a 1/2 and 1/4 wood chisel worked the best. Also a razor blade helped with the heavy stuff. You will find it is easier to work from under the plane. After getting as much off as possible I started with the drimel with a wire brush and cleaned all the rest off I could. Next I took the wire to the fuel sending unit off and took out the 5 screws that hold the fuel sender and removed it with no problem. Again I vented the tank. Next you want to remove the fuel line and tape it. I needs to be removed at the fuel valve and the tank and pushed into the plane so as to give you more room. Next I taped the fuel sender hole and started on the access cover screws. I should have spent more time with the drimel and taken a pick to the heads of the screws because I stripped two screws that were loaded with pro-seal. Oh well live and learn. That was enough for the first day (4 hours). The next day Tonto came to the rescue (Dale Ensing) and we were able to remove the stripped screws with his needle nose vice grip pliers. Thanks Dale! Kudos, Kudos, Kudos. After the screws were out we managed to release the plate with a heavy duty sharpened putty knife and hammer. Next Dale cleaned the hole with MKE while I used the wire brush on the electric motor to clean the covers. Yes MEK softens the goo and will clean it off. Still lots of rubbing but it works. We canted the pick up tube about 1 1/2 inches outboard to make for an easier instillation of the cover plate, drilled the hole in the B nut with Dale's little jig and safeted it with 0.32 wire. All no problem . Don't forget to clean any trash out of the tank. We used the vacuum with a small hose fitted to the vacuum hose. Now it became a two man job. We buttered the cover plate with pro-seal laid the gasket in the goo and buttered it again, we added 3 screws to hold it in place while we both installed it together. He was on the top and I was on the bottom, of the wing that is. Really a two man job here to get it in place without dislodging all the goo and making a bigger mess. Don't forget to tape the edge of the wing on the top and the bottom to prevent getting goo on your paint. Next we dipped each screw into the goo and screwed the cover plate down, installed the fuel pick up with only a rubber gasket (no goo on the gasket just the screws). Re-install the fuel line, let it cure for at least 4 days add fuel and say a prayer that it doesn't leak!!!!!!! Don't you just want to kill Van. Call me if you want to know more or have questions. As always Cappy is available ever Saturday to help. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 704-362-0005 704-281-7884 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:59 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Hi folks, thought I would give you an up date before it got too late. It's almost 9:00 PM and apparently the truck driver is still on the road or doesn't plan to call until tomorrow. I had though he was to call ( and he may yet) so we could arrange timing for tomorrow, but so far - no call. Call their dispatch office but no luck there either. My son-in-law and family are going to come early, so I'll have his assistance regardless. Bottom line, if I hear anything before midnight, I'll post it. So don't change any plans (unless of course you're using helping me as an excuse to get out of doing something less enjoyable {:>)), you may have made. I figure the truck driver can also help- if he wants to get unloaded. Appreciate all the offers. Stop bye during the week and if you have an apple core, I might let you put bolts into holes. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:26 PM PST US From: "Charles Hagerty" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Electrical systems seminar. --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Hagerty" Thanks Radomir! Hope you're doing well. Sounds like your plane is progressing nicely. Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radomir Zaric" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:53 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Electrical systems seminar. > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" > > > Far away from you Chuck. :) Rock Hill, SC -- > http://www.airnav.com/airport/KUZA > > > A few miles south of Charlotte. > > > Radomir > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles > Hagerty > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:49 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Electrical systems seminar. > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Hagerty" > > > Where is Rock Hill Airport? > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:10 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" So the b-nuts were found to be tight from the original installation? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:41 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > A bitch but doable without removing the tank. All total, > 10-12 man hours to do the left tank. Experience will help > when Cappy does the right one. > Start by getting all the parts you need from Van's. Cork > gaskets for the big hole, rubber gaskets for the fuel > sender, 2 small jars or peo-seal (really nice and just > enough) and whatever screws you want to use. Ground the > plane. I have a grounding wire I made and one ground bar if > anyone wants to borrow them. > > Next, I siphoned as much 100LL out as I could, then I > un-screwed the drain valve and drained the remainder into a > fuel can. Next, I vented the tank by holding a vacuum set to > blow in the fuel cap hole for about 5 minutes. > > After the tank was vented I started to remove the old > pro-seal before I even tried to open the tank which kept the > trash out as much as possible. I had used way to much > pro-seal the first time so I had a pain removing it. I found > a 1/2 and 1/4 wood chisel worked the best. Also a razor > blade helped with the heavy stuff. You will find it is > easier to work from under the plane. After getting as much > off as possible I started with the drimel with > a wire brush and cleaned all the rest off I could. Next I > took the wire > to the fuel sending unit off and took out the 5 screws that > hold the fuel > sender and removed it with no problem. Again I vented the > tank. Next you > want to remove the fuel line and tape it. I needs to be > removed at the fuel valve and the tank and pushed into the > plane so as to give you more room. > > Next I taped the fuel sender hole and started on the access > cover screws. I should have spent more time with the drimel > and taken a pick to the heads of the screws because I > stripped two screws that were loaded with pro-seal. Oh well > live and learn. That was enough for the first day (4 hours). > > The next day Tonto came to the rescue (Dale Ensing) and we > were able to remove the stripped screws with his needle nose > vice grip pliers. Thanks Dale! Kudos, Kudos, Kudos. > > After the screws were out we managed to release the plate > with a heavy duty > sharpened putty knife and hammer. Next Dale cleaned the > hole with MKE > while I used the wire brush on the electric motor to clean > the covers. Yes > MEK softens the goo and will clean it off. Still lots of > rubbing but it works. > > We canted the pick up tube about 1 1/2 inches outboard to > make for an easier instillation of the cover plate, drilled > the hole in the B nut with Dale's > little jig and safeted it with 0.32 wire. All no problem . > > Don't forget to clean any trash out of the tank. We used the > vacuum with a small hose fitted to the vacuum hose. > > Now it became a two man job. We buttered the cover plate > with pro-seal laid the gasket in the goo and buttered it > again, we added 3 screws to hold it in place while we both > installed it together. He was on the top and I was on the > bottom, of the wing that is. Really a two man job here to get it in > place without dislodging all the goo and making a bigger > mess. Don't > forget to tape the edge of the wing on the top and the bottom > to prevent getting goo on your paint. Next we dipped each > screw into the goo and screwed the cover plate down, > installed the fuel pick up with only a rubber gasket (no goo > on the gasket just the screws). > > Re-install the fuel line, let it cure for at least 4 days add > fuel and say a prayer that it doesn't leak!!!!!!! > > Don't you just want to kill Van. > > Call me if you want to know more or have questions. As > always Cappy is available ever Saturday to help. > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy > N123SG RV-8 > Cappy's Toy > 704-362-0005 > 704-281-7884 > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:46 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com My tanks have been off before. If I ever get around to this SB, I'll pull 'em again, after reading what you went through! -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Steve Glasgow Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:40:47 -0500 Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" A bitch but doable without removing the tank. All total, 10-12 man hours to do the left tank. Experience will help when Cappy does the right one. Start by getting all the parts you need from Van's. Cork gaskets for the big hole, rubber gaskets for the fuel sender, 2 small jars or peo-seal (really nice and just enough) and whatever screws you want to use. Ground the plane. I have a grounding wire I made and one ground bar if anyone wants to borrow them. Next, I siphoned as much 100LL out as I could, then I un-screwed the drain valve and drained the remainder into a fuel can. Next, I vented the tank by holding a vacuum set to blow in the fuel cap hole for about 5 minutes. After the tank was vented I started to remove the old pro-seal before I even tried to open the tank which kept the trash out as much as possible. I had used way to much pro-seal the first time so I had a pain removing it. I found a 1/2 and 1/4 wood chisel worked the best. Also a razor blade helped with the heavy stuff. You will find it is easier to work from under the plane. After getting as much off as possible I started with the drimel with a wire brush and cleaned all the rest off I could. Next I took the wire to the fuel sending unit off and took out the 5 screws that hold the fuel sender and removed it with no problem. Again I vented the tank. Next you want to remove the fuel line and tape it. I needs to be removed at the fuel valve and the tank and pushed into the plane so as to give you more room. Next I taped the fuel sender hole and started on the access cover screws. I should have spent more time with the drimel and taken a pick to the heads of the screws because I stripped two screws that were loaded with pro-seal. Oh well live and learn. That was enough for the first day (4 hours). The next day Tonto came to the rescue (Dale Ensing) and we were able to remove the stripped screws with his needle nose vice grip pliers. Thanks Dale! Kudos, Kudos, Kudos. After the screws were out we managed to release the plate with a heavy duty sharpened putty knife and hammer. Next Dale cleaned the hole with MKE while I used the wire brush on the electric motor to clean the covers. Yes MEK softens the goo and will clean it off. Still lots of rubbing but it works. We canted the pick up tube about 1 1/2 inches outboard to make for an easier instillation of the cover plate, drilled the hole in the B nut with Dale's little jig and safeted it with 0.32 wire. All no problem . Don't forget to clean any trash out of the tank. We used the vacuum with a small hose fitted to the vacuum hose. Now it became a two man job. We buttered the cover plate with pro-seal laid the gasket in the goo and buttered it again, we added 3 screws to hold it in place while we both installed it together. He was on the top and I was on the bottom, of the wing that is. Really a two man job here to get it in place without dislodging all the goo and making a bigger mess. Don't forget to tape the edge of the wing on the top and the bottom to prevent getting goo on your paint. Next we dipped each screw into the goo and screwed the cover plate down, installed the fuel pick up with only a rubber gasket (no goo on the gasket just the screws). Re-install the fuel line, let it cure for at least 4 days add fuel and say a prayer that it doesn't leak!!!!!!! Don't you just want to kill Van. Call me if you want to know more or have questions. As always Cappy is available ever Saturday to help. Steve Glasgow-Cappy N123SG RV-8 Cappy's Toy 704-362-0005 704-281-7884