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1. 03:24 AM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (Steve Glasgow)
2. 04:27 AM - SB (Steve Glasgow)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: Hangar Schedule? (Steve Glasgow)
4. 04:54 AM - Re: Hangar Schedule? (Ed Anderson)
5. 05:45 AM - Re: Hangar Schedule? (Steve Glasgow)
6. 05:54 AM - Re: Hangar Schedule? (Ed Anderson)
7. 10:08 AM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (N136CH@webtv.net (Charlie Hall))
8. 10:17 AM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (Larry Bowen)
9. 02:45 PM - Hangar?? (Ed Anderson)
10. 04:09 PM - Re: Hangar?? (Steve Glasgow)
11. 05:04 PM - Re: Fuel Tank SB (Wayne Williams)
12. 06:32 PM - Re: Hangar?? (Ed Anderson)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank SB |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Yes B nut was tight.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bowen
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
So the b-nuts were found to be tight from the original installation?
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:41 PM
> To: SERV
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
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> A bitch but doable without removing the tank. All total,
> 10-12 man hours to do the left tank. Experience will help
> when Cappy does the right one.
> Start by getting all the parts you need from Van's. Cork
> gaskets for the big hole, rubber gaskets for the fuel
> sender, 2 small jars or peo-seal (really nice and just
> enough) and whatever screws you want to use. Ground the
> plane. I have a grounding wire I made and one ground bar if
> anyone wants to borrow them.
>
> Next, I siphoned as much 100LL out as I could, then I
> un-screwed the drain valve and drained the remainder into a
> fuel can. Next, I vented the tank by holding a vacuum set to
> blow in the fuel cap hole for about 5 minutes.
>
> After the tank was vented I started to remove the old
> pro-seal before I even tried to open the tank which kept the
> trash out as much as possible. I had used way to much
> pro-seal the first time so I had a pain removing it. I found
> a 1/2 and 1/4 wood chisel worked the best. Also a razor
> blade helped with the heavy stuff. You will find it is
> easier to work from under the plane. After getting as much
> off as possible I started with the drimel with
> a wire brush and cleaned all the rest off I could. Next I
> took the wire
> to the fuel sending unit off and took out the 5 screws that
> hold the fuel
> sender and removed it with no problem. Again I vented the
> tank. Next you
> want to remove the fuel line and tape it. I needs to be
> removed at the fuel valve and the tank and pushed into the
> plane so as to give you more room.
>
> Next I taped the fuel sender hole and started on the access
> cover screws. I should have spent more time with the drimel
> and taken a pick to the heads of the screws because I
> stripped two screws that were loaded with pro-seal. Oh well
> live and learn. That was enough for the first day (4 hours).
>
> The next day Tonto came to the rescue (Dale Ensing) and we
> were able to remove the stripped screws with his needle nose
> vice grip pliers. Thanks Dale! Kudos, Kudos, Kudos.
>
> After the screws were out we managed to release the plate
> with a heavy duty
> sharpened putty knife and hammer. Next Dale cleaned the
> hole with MKE
> while I used the wire brush on the electric motor to clean
> the covers. Yes
> MEK softens the goo and will clean it off. Still lots of
> rubbing but it works.
>
> We canted the pick up tube about 1 1/2 inches outboard to
> make for an easier instillation of the cover plate, drilled
> the hole in the B nut with Dale's
> little jig and safeted it with 0.32 wire. All no problem .
>
> Don't forget to clean any trash out of the tank. We used the
> vacuum with a small hose fitted to the vacuum hose.
>
> Now it became a two man job. We buttered the cover plate
> with pro-seal laid the gasket in the goo and buttered it
> again, we added 3 screws to hold it in place while we both
> installed it together. He was on the top and I was on the
> bottom, of the wing that is. Really a two man job here to get it in
> place without dislodging all the goo and making a bigger
> mess. Don't
> forget to tape the edge of the wing on the top and the bottom
> to prevent getting goo on your paint. Next we dipped each
> screw into the goo and screwed the cover plate down,
> installed the fuel pick up with only a rubber gasket (no goo
> on the gasket just the screws).
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> Re-install the fuel line, let it cure for at least 4 days add
> fuel and say a prayer that it doesn't leak!!!!!!!
>
> Don't you just want to kill Van.
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> Call me if you want to know more or have questions. As
> always Cappy is available ever Saturday to help.
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> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
FYI. Something I read this morning on the internet.
DAR Tim Mahoney of St. Cloud, Minn., called the FAA about the issue,
according to VAF-MN chief Doug Weiler. "The FAA said youre responsible to
maintain the aircraft in an airworthy condition. If youre flying an
airplane with a known safety deficiency, youre not complying with the
letter of the law," Doug reported.
Mahoney also sought and got clarification from the EAAs Joe Norris which
said, the mandatory service bulletin issues by kit vendors are not by
themselves legally binding. However, other aircraft are required to be
operated in a condition for safe operation. The SB must not be ignored. The
operator must respond in some fashion . The manner in which this is
addressed is up to the builder. Simply following the guidelines are the best
way, but they are not legally binding. If youre confident you can defend
your claim that the aircraft is operating in a safe condition, then approach
it accordingly.
Cappy
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Schedule? |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>My son-in-law and family are going to come early,
How early is early?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Hi folks, thought I would give you an up date before it got too late. It's almost
9:00 PM and apparently the truck driver is still on the road or doesn't
plan to call until tomorrow. I had though he was to call ( and he may yet) so
we could arrange timing for tomorrow, but so far - no call. Call their dispatch
office but no luck there either.
My son-in-law and family are going to come early, so I'll have his assistance
regardless. Bottom line, if I hear anything before midnight, I'll post it.
So don't change any plans (unless of course you're using helping me as an excuse
to get out of doing something less enjoyable {:>)), you may have made. I
figure the truck driver can also help- if he wants to get unloaded.
Appreciate all the offers. Stop bye during the week and if you have an apple
core, I might let you put bolts into holes.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Schedule? |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Hi Cappy,
Not very early. Its now morning and still no call from the driver. So I am
guessing now that he won't make it until after noon.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
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>>My son-in-law and family are going to come early,
>
> How early is early?
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Anderson
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
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> Hi folks, thought I would give you an up date before it got too late.
> It's almost 9:00 PM and apparently the truck driver is still on the road
> or doesn't plan to call until tomorrow. I had though he was to call ( and
> he may yet) so we could arrange timing for tomorrow, but so far - no call.
> Call their dispatch office but no luck there either.
>
> My son-in-law and family are going to come early, so I'll have his
> assistance regardless. Bottom line, if I hear anything before midnight,
> I'll post it.
>
> So don't change any plans (unless of course you're using helping me as an
> excuse to get out of doing something less enjoyable {:>)), you may have
> made. I figure the truck driver can also help- if he wants to get
> unloaded.
>
> Appreciate all the offers. Stop bye during the week and if you have an
> apple core, I might let you put bolts into holes.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Schedule? |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Give me a call when you want me there.
Steve Glasgow-Cappy
N123SG RV-8
Cappy's Toy
704-362-0005
704-281-7884
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Hi Cappy,
Not very early. Its now morning and still no call from the driver. So I am
guessing now that he won't make it until after noon.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
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>>My son-in-law and family are going to come early,
>
> How early is early?
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Anderson
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
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> Hi folks, thought I would give you an up date before it got too late.
> It's almost 9:00 PM and apparently the truck driver is still on the road
> or doesn't plan to call until tomorrow. I had though he was to call ( and
> he may yet) so we could arrange timing for tomorrow, but so far - no call.
> Call their dispatch office but no luck there either.
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> My son-in-law and family are going to come early, so I'll have his
> assistance regardless. Bottom line, if I hear anything before midnight,
> I'll post it.
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> So don't change any plans (unless of course you're using helping me as an
> excuse to get out of doing something less enjoyable {:>)), you may have
> made. I figure the truck driver can also help- if he wants to get
> unloaded.
>
> Appreciate all the offers. Stop bye during the week and if you have an
> apple core, I might let you put bolts into holes.
>
> Ed
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> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar Schedule? |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Ok, Cappy. I've made several calls to the freight company dispatchers - but
apparently they do not work on weekends or have anyone on call. Sorry,
'bout this, sort of irritates me a bit seeing as how it does not cost a
fortune to make a phone call nowadays.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Give me a call when you want me there.
>
> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> N123SG RV-8
> Cappy's Toy
> 704-362-0005
> 704-281-7884
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Anderson
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
>
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Hi Cappy,
>
> Not very early. Its now morning and still no call from the driver. So I
> am
> guessing now that he won't make it until after noon.
>
> Ed
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
>
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> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> > <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> >>My son-in-law and family are going to come early,
> >
> > How early is early?
> >
> > Cappy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ed Anderson
> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:54 PM
> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar Schedule?
> >
> >
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> > <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> >
> > Hi folks, thought I would give you an up date before it got too late.
> > It's almost 9:00 PM and apparently the truck driver is still on the
> road
> > or doesn't plan to call until tomorrow. I had though he was to call
> ( and
> > he may yet) so we could arrange timing for tomorrow, but so far - no
> call.
> > Call their dispatch office but no luck there either.
> >
> > My son-in-law and family are going to come early, so I'll have his
> > assistance regardless. Bottom line, if I hear anything before
> midnight,
> > I'll post it.
> >
> > So don't change any plans (unless of course you're using helping me as
> an
> > excuse to get out of doing something less enjoyable {:>)), you may have
> > made. I figure the truck driver can also help- if he wants to get
> > unloaded.
> >
> > Appreciate all the offers. Stop bye during the week and if you have
> an
> > apple core, I might let you put bolts into holes.
> >
> > Ed
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> > Ed Anderson
> > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> > Matthews, NC
> > eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank SB |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N136CH@webtv.net (Charlie Hall)
What is this fuel tank SB. I checked Van's site and checked with
several RV owners at EAA chapter meeting yesterday. We are familiar
with the one securing the pickup tube to avoid rotation but that was
several years ago.
Message 8
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Hall [mailto:N136CH@webtv.net]
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:07 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N136CH@webtv.net
> (Charlie Hall)
>
> What is this fuel tank SB. I checked Van's site and checked
> with several RV owners at EAA chapter meeting yesterday. We
> are familiar with the one securing the pickup tube to avoid
> rotation but that was several years ago.
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> Photoshare, and much much more:
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
I want to thank those of you who offered to help unload the hangar. As of 1800
hours Sunday, no hangar and no word from the freight company as to what the
problem may be. Rather irritated that no call was made, but nothing I could do
about it today - but, tomorrow is another day (and its Monday).
So again thanks
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Since tomorrow is Saturmonday I can still help just give me a call when you find
out something.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar??
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
I want to thank those of you who offered to help unload the hangar. As of 1800
hours Sunday, no hangar and no word from the freight company as to what the
problem may be. Rather irritated that no call was made, but nothing I could
do about it today - but, tomorrow is another day (and its Monday).
So again thanks
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
This is a real concern of mine that Vans expects us to learn this stuff on
our own. When I had my Cardinal SBs were mailed to all registered owners.
One could easily argue they never heard of the SB.--- There. I feel better.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie
Hall
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Fuel Tank SB
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: N136CH@webtv.net (Charlie Hall)
What is this fuel tank SB. I checked Van's site and checked with several RV
owners at EAA chapter meeting yesterday. We are familiar with the one
securing the pickup tube to avoid rotation but that was several years ago.
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Ok, thanks, Cappy. Will do, going to call the company dispatch office first
thing - well, after my coffee. I'll let you know.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar??
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
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> Since tomorrow is Saturmonday I can still help just give me a call when
> you find out something.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Anderson
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:44 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Hangar??
>
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> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> I want to thank those of you who offered to help unload the hangar. As
> of 1800 hours Sunday, no hangar and no word from the freight company as
> to what the problem may be. Rather irritated that no call was made, but
> nothing I could do about it today - but, tomorrow is another day (and its
> Monday).
>
> So again thanks
>
> Ed
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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