---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/07/06: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:03 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Brian D. Campbell) 2. 04:41 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Larry Bowen) 3. 07:30 AM - Ramblings-oil prices (sportav8r@aol.com) 4. 07:30 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (sportav8r@aol.com) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Larry Bowen) 6. 08:20 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Steve Glasgow) 7. 08:22 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Rad Z) 8. 10:16 AM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (Ron Schreck) 9. 11:57 AM - SAT (Steve Glasgow) 10. 05:41 PM - Re: Plane fuel ramblings (tadsargent) 11. 05:42 PM - Water in Gasoline (Ed Anderson) 12. 05:54 PM - Re: Water in Gasoline (Steve Glasgow) 13. 06:43 PM - Re: Water in Gasoline (sportav8r@aol.com) 14. 07:09 PM - Re: SAT (Larry Bowen) 15. 07:20 PM - Re: SAT (Ron and Shannon AWAD) 16. 07:30 PM - Re: Water in Gasoline (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 17. 07:41 PM - Re: Water in Gasoline (sportav8r@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:56 AM PST US From: "Brian D. Campbell" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Hey Guys, I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. I noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It just so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share some pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare to. These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here are prices that we have: FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight cost) 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie Thomas at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, Brian D. Campbell Campbell Oil & Gas Company P. O. Box 637 418 Peanut Road Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 Fax: 910-862-5560 Cell: 910-874-2005 Home: 910-862-8955 Email: brianc@campbelloil.net _____ From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Stormy Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment boys ought to check into the SSPR. Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just paid $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. Next time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. Dale Ensing ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings From: "Larry Bowen" --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Any deals on Philips 20w-50? I'll be switching to it after my Aeroshell 15w-50 stock is depleted. -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Brian D. Campbell wrote: > Hey Guys, > > > I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first > attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. > I > noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It > just > so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share some > pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare > to. > These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here > are > prices that we have: > > > FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight cost) > > > 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case > > 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case > > 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case > > > If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie > Thomas > at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. > > > Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Thanks, > > Brian D. Campbell > > Campbell Oil & Gas Company > > P. O. Box 637 > > 418 Peanut Road > > Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 > > Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 > > Fax: 910-862-5560 > > Cell: 910-874-2005 > > Home: 910-862-8955 > > Email: brianc@campbelloil.net > > _____ > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale > Ensing > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > > > Stormy > > Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment > boys > ought to check into the SSPR. > > Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just > paid > $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. > Next > time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for > visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. > > Dale Ensing > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:42 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Ramblings-oil prices Just confirmed the actual numbers with the wife: she paid $58.78 plus sales tax for a case; grand total $61.43 or $5.12/qt. That's getting up there. Last I recall buying some, before this year's hikes, it was about $3.80 a qu art, which was bad enough. Maybe I should buy in bulk for a rainy day. Unl ess something catastrophic happens, I'll always have a use for it eventuall y. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Brian D. Campbell Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 06:02:57 -0400 Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Hey Guys, I haven=99t posted anything on this site before but here goes my first attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. I noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It just so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share some p ricing information with you so that you would have something to compare to. These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here are prices that we have: FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight cost) 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie Thomas at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie=99s Ext. 257. Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, Brian D. Campbell Campbell Oil & Gas Company P. O. Box 637 418 Peanut Road Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 Fax: 910-862-5560 Cell: 910-874-2005 Home: 910-862-8955 Email: brianc@campbelloil.net From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast- list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Stormy Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment boys ought to check into the SSPR. Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just paid $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. Next time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for vis it and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. Dale Ensing ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM . All on demand. Always Free. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:46 AM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Why the switch? -----Original Message----- From: Larry Bowen Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 07:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Any deals on Philips 20w-50? I'll be switching to it after my Aeroshell 15w-50 stock is depleted. -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Brian D. Campbell wrote: > Hey Guys, > > > I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first > attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. > I > noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It > just > so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share some > pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare > to. > These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here > are > prices that we have: > > > FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight cost) > > > 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case > > 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case > > 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case > > > If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie > Thomas > at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. > > > Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Thanks, > > Brian D. Campbell > > Campbell Oil & Gas Company > > P. O. Box 637 > > 418 Peanut Road > > Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 > > Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 > > Fax: 910-862-5560 > > Cell: 910-874-2005 > > Home: 910-862-8955 > > Email: brianc@campbelloil.net > > _____ > > From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale > Ensing > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > > > Stormy > > Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment > boys > ought to check into the SSPR. > > Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just > paid > $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. > Next > time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for > visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. > > Dale Ensing > > ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings From: "Larry Bowen" --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Pinching pennies were I can!! In 35 years I'll have saved enough to buy a 396... -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > Why the switch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 07:39:54 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > Any deals on Philips 20w-50? I'll be switching to it after my Aeroshell > 15w-50 stock is depleted. > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Brian D. Campbell wrote: >> Hey Guys, >> >> >> >> I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first >> attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. >> I >> noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It >> just >> so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share >> some >> pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare >> to. >> These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here >> are >> prices that we have: >> >> >> >> FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight >> cost) >> >> >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case >> >> >> >> If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie >> Thomas >> at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. >> >> >> >> Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brian D. Campbell >> >> Campbell Oil & Gas Company >> >> P. O. Box 637 >> >> 418 Peanut Road >> >> Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 >> >> Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 >> >> Fax: 910-862-5560 >> >> Cell: 910-874-2005 >> >> Home: 910-862-8955 >> >> Email: brianc@campbelloil.net >> >> _____ >> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale >> Ensing >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings >> >> >> >> Stormy >> >> Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment >> boys >> ought to check into the SSPR. >> >> Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just >> paid >> $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. >> Next >> time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for >> visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. >> >> Dale Ensing >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:16 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings Sporties has the 396 for $2,295. That's $200 less than everyone else. Maybe only 30 years. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Pinching pennies were I can!! In 35 years I'll have saved enough to buy a 396... -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > Why the switch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 07:39:54 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > Any deals on Philips 20w-50? I'll be switching to it after my Aeroshell > 15w-50 stock is depleted. > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Brian D. Campbell wrote: >> Hey Guys, >> >> >> >> I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first >> attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in Elizabethtown. >> I >> noticed yesterday that you were talking about Aeroshell motor oil. It >> just >> so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share >> some >> pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare >> to. >> These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here >> are >> prices that we have: >> >> >> >> FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight >> cost) >> >> >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case >> >> >> >> If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie >> Thomas >> at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. >> >> >> >> Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brian D. Campbell >> >> Campbell Oil & Gas Company >> >> P. O. Box 637 >> >> 418 Peanut Road >> >> Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 >> >> Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 >> >> Fax: 910-862-5560 >> >> Cell: 910-874-2005 >> >> Home: 910-862-8955 >> >> Email: brianc@campbelloil.net >> >> _____ >> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale >> Ensing >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings >> >> >> >> Stormy >> >> Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the gov'ment >> boys >> ought to check into the SSPR. >> >> Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I just >> paid >> $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in Charlotte. >> Next >> time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for >> visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. >> >> Dale Ensing >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:55 AM PST US From: Rad Z Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Rad Z Larry, they're 2,195 now at JA Air Center.. I think that just shaved off a few years ;) Radomir --- Larry Bowen wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > Bowen" > > Pinching pennies were I can!! In 35 years I'll have > saved enough to buy a > 396... > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:43 AM PST US From: "Ron Schreck" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" Larry, Does the Phillips have the additive recommended for Lycomings? Ron Schreck Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" --> Pinching pennies were I can!! In 35 years I'll have saved enough to buy a 396... -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com sportav8r@aol.com wrote: > Why the switch? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Bowen > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 07:39:54 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > Any deals on Philips 20w-50? I'll be switching to it after my > Aeroshell 15w-50 stock is depleted. > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Brian D. Campbell wrote: >> Hey Guys, >> >> >> >> I haven't posted anything on this site before but here goes my first >> attempt. I am the guy with the Harmon Rocket (N510HR) in >> Elizabethtown. I noticed yesterday that you were talking about >> Aeroshell motor oil. It just >> so happens that we sell Aeroshell Oil. I thought that I would share >> some >> pricing information with you so that you would have something to compare >> to. >> These prices are subject to change based on our inventory cost but here >> are >> prices that we have: >> >> >> >> FOB Elizabethtown, NC (we can ship with the buyer paying the freight >> cost) >> >> >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w $30.03 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 100w Plus 37.72 per case >> >> 12/1 Aeroshell 15/50 47.39 per case >> >> >> >> If you are interested in any oil you can call Melody Priest or Cassie >> Thomas at 910-862-8423 Ext. 256 or Cassie's Ext. 257. >> >> >> >> Have a Great Day!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brian D. Campbell >> >> Campbell Oil & Gas Company >> >> P. O. Box 637 >> >> 418 Peanut Road >> >> Elizabethtown, N. C. 28337 >> >> Phone: 910-862-8423 Ext. 226 >> >> Fax: 910-862-5560 >> >> Cell: 910-874-2005 >> >> Home: 910-862-8955 >> >> Email: brianc@campbelloil.net >> >> _____ >> >> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Dale Ensing >> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:17 AM >> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings >> >> >> >> Stormy >> >> Are you trying to corner the market on mogas?! Sounds like the >> gov'ment boys ought to check into the SSPR. >> >> Your local price ($65) on the AeroShell 15W-50 is a little high. I >> just paid $56 including 7.5 percent sales tax on a case of 12 here in >> Charlotte. Next >> time you need a case let me know. I'll pick up and you can fly down for >> visit and get the oil. Better for you then a hamburger flight. >> >> Dale Ensing >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:34 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SAT --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" If anyone wants to get up early there is a breakfast for EAA 309 at Gastonia. 8AM Till ........... Randy and I will be there at 8:30. Cappy ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:55 PM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "tadsargent" I have had good luch with Tropic Aero. They beat any price and will take a used GPS on trade. TS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rad Z" Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Plane fuel ramblings > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Rad Z > > Larry, they're 2,195 now at JA Air Center.. I think > that just shaved off a few years ;) > > Radomir > > > --- Larry Bowen wrote: > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > > Bowen" > > > > Pinching pennies were I can!! In 35 years I'll have > > saved enough to buy a > > 396... > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:14 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Found this reference concerning potential adverse effects of water in gasoline on the Engine list and thought it might be of interest to some of you. This e mails is also to test and see whether we can now post attachments to the list. If you don't see an attachment then you know the answer {:>). In that case, the article can be found at: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/rfg/waterphs.pdf#search='water%20pha se%20separation Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:13 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Very interesting. I'm sticking to av gas. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Found this reference concerning potential adverse effects of water in gasoline on the Engine list and thought it might be of interest to some of you. This e mails is also to test and see whether we can now post attachments to the list. If you don't see an attachment then you know the answer {:>). In that case, the article can be found at: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/rfg/waterphs.pdf#search='water%20pha se%20separation Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:45 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Let's see if I understand this: oxygenated fuels, especially those containing alcohols are more water-tolerant than straight gasoline, avgas is straight gasoline, mogas may or may not contain alcohol but is always oxygenated by the addition of something, so avgas is least tolerant of water, fouls plugs and costs 50% more... yep, I'm sticking to avgas, too. Why save all that money and gain additional water-tolerance safety margin as well? Who'd want to do that? Not. -Stormy Cappy, just add Prist if it makes you feel better ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Glasgow Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 20:54:00 -0400 Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Very interesting. I'm sticking to av gas. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline Found this reference concerning potential adverse effects of water in gasoline on the Engine list and thought it might be of interest to some of you. This e mails is also to test and see whether we can now post attachments to the list. If you don't see an attachment then you know the answer {:>). In that case, the article can be found at: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/fuels/rfg/waterphs.pdf#search='water%20phase%20separation Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. 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Always Free. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:06 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SAT --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I'll see you there. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:57 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SAT > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > If anyone wants to get up early there is a breakfast for EAA > 309 at Gastonia. 8AM Till ........... > > Randy and I will be there at 8:30. > > Cappy > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:20:16 PM PST US From: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SAT --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" I plan to be there with my mini extra 300 Ron Awad >From: "Larry Bowen" >To: >Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: SAT >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 22:08:51 -0400 > >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > >I'll see you there. > >- >Larry Bowen >Larry@BowenAero.com >http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 2:57 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: SAT > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > --> > > > > If anyone wants to get up early there is a breakfast for EAA > > 309 at Gastonia. 8AM Till ........... > > > > Randy and I will be there at 8:30. > > > > Cappy > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:46 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline In a message dated 06/07/2006 8:44:31 PM Central Daylight Time, sportav8r@aol.com writes: Why save all that money and gain additional water-tolerance safety margin as well? Who'd want to do that? >> Aw, c'mon, stormy- it's an AVIATION thing- yer $'posed to $pend more- and be$ides, $omebody'$ gotta pay for all tho$e fat bonu$u$ and $everence/retirement package$ tho$e fuel mogul$ "earned"! (but seariously now...) Mojo ran on pure, unadulterated mogas from the local Kroger (remember the $.03 discount?) until her first September (80 hrs?) when I gave another builder his first ride in my plane. Three seconds into the takeoff roll and the engine went from a roar to a whimper. BH is cool and we taxi back. Multiple retries on the ramp with same result. Added 10 gallons 100LL to left tank with no change. Then cowl yanked, flow to carb checked, then taken apart til I was holding a perfectly Marvelous and Sheblerious float in my hand. No obvious squawks. Re-assembly and all is perfect again. Got her back to new home at SYI under cover of dark from 11.5K' and investigation started. Theory is that gas distributor is switching from summer to winter blends and someone screwed up the mix. Vapor pressure wrong BIG time and fuel boiling in bowl or main jet. Until convinced otherwise, I'm stickin' to this story. Just because I am adverse to puckerfakter, nowadays one tank carries the blue stuff and the other still gets the cruisin' Kroger, sans discount 8-( and t/o & landings always on blue tank. No problems since. Don't know if Kroger is better now, and don't wanna find out. Oh yeah- a few tiny droplets of aitch-too-oh in Kroger tank occasionally, easily removed at sumptime. No gascolator and nothing but runs & hits (no errors) since. But be advised- No Kroger EVER goes into Mojo without passing the superfunnel test! See: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1419/index.html Another of those BE$T DOLLAR$ $PENT thangs.... Mark Phillips N51PW E3D, 150hp fire-breathing Lycosoar, too broke buying mogas to get a vapor tester................. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:15 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline I've had occasional hard starts and stumbles from vapor lock, but only when doing a quick-turn at high altitude airports (always when I stop to pee at KHSP, 3760 MSL). Never at any other time, and yes, only on mogas. Never found any water in tanks beyond 1-2 drops after washing the plane. Now with new Andair locking gas caps, even that is gone. No gascolator. I did the yellow gas-blue gas switcheroo thing for years, until long experience raised my comfort level to the point I just quit buying avgas except on the road (airport mogas is never hi-test :-( I do try to inventory-load as much mogas during the summer as I can for winter use, but not sure it makes much practical difference in the blends we see around here. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 22:30:26 EDT Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Water in Gasoline In a message dated 06/07/2006 8:44:31 PM Central Daylight Time, sportav8r@aol.com writes: Why save all that money and gain additional water-tolerance safety margin as well? Who'd want to do that? >> Aw, c'mon, stormy- it's an AVIATION thing- yer $'posed to $pend more- and be$ides, $omebody'$ gotta pay for all tho$e fat bonu$u$ and $everence/retirement package$ tho$e fuel mogul$ "earned"! (but seariously now...) Mojo ran on pure, unadulterated mogas from the local Kroger (remember the $.03 discount?) until her first September (80 hrs?) when I gave another builder his first ride in my plane. Three seconds into the takeoff roll and the engine went from a roar to a whimper. BH is cool and we taxi back. Multiple retries on the ramp with same result. Added 10 gallons 100LL to left tank with no change. Then cowl yanked, flow to carb checked, then taken apart til I was holding a perfectly Marvelous and Sheblerious float in my hand. No obvious squawks. Re-assembly and all is perfect again. Got her back to new home at SYI under cover of dark from 11.5K' and investigation started. Theory is that gas distributor is switching from summer to winter blends and someone screwed up the mix. Vapor pressure wrong BIG time and fuel boiling in bowl or main jet. Until convinced otherwise, I'm stickin' to this story. Just because I am adverse to puckerfakter, nowadays one tank carries the blue stuff and the other still gets the cruisin' Kroger, sans discount 8-( and t/o & landings always on blue tank. No problems since. Don't know if Kroger is better now, and don't wanna find out. Oh yeah- a few tiny droplets of aitch-too-oh in Kroger tank occasionally, easily removed at sumptime. No gascolator and nothing but runs & hits (no errors) since. But be advised- No Kroger EVER goes into Mojo without passing the superfunnel test! See: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1419/index.html Another of those BE$T DOLLAR$ $PENT thangs.... Mark Phillips N51PW E3D, 150hp fire-breathing Lycosoar, too broke buying mogas to get a vapor tester................. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.