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1. 06:05 AM - Re: RUQ fuel (Dale Ensing)
2. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (Steve Glasgow)
3. 07:28 AM - Tragic Loss (Bert Murillo)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (ben burril)
5. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (Lenleg@aol.com)
6. 11:39 AM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow)
7. 12:20 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Dale Ensing)
8. 12:55 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow)
9. 01:14 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com)
10. 01:26 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Randy Utsey)
11. 01:29 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Mike.Munn@fluor.com)
12. 01:33 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow)
13. 02:23 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Larry Bowen)
14. 06:15 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Dale Ensing)
15. 06:40 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com)
16. 06:48 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM/ latest weather update (sportav8r@aol.com)
17. 06:51 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com)
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately?
Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all
taxes?
Dale
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Yes, it is holding at $3.60.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Ensing
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately?
Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all
taxes?
Dale
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
hi:
Does any one know, what happened. ? We have lost a good friend.
Cris Good. A builder of a award winner rv6a. HIs web page was legendary..
Our condolences, go to his family.
Bert
rv6a
do not archive
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" <bburril@carolina.rr.com>
I purchase gas there on sat and it was current then
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:05 AM
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
<densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately?
> Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all
> taxes?
> Dale
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Got fuel there last Saturday .. it was current.
Len
In a message dated 6/22/2006 9:06:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
densing@carolina.rr.com writes:
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
<densing@carolina.rr.com>
Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately?
Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all
taxes?
Dale
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| Subject: | Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna
be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power
lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not
correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around
here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by
the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the
telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet,
but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots
of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none
are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming
poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell.
We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for
a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around
1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute
float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600
is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company
can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget
the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out,
but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together.
Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better
put together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation
for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling
all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my
SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing
a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event.
Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
AOPA Flight Planner show Hop Along at
N37' 47.3 W79'46.1
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Looks like we got him Dale.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Ensing
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
AOPA Flight Planner show Hop Along at
N37' 47.3 W79'46.1
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Here's what's up:
AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that
in ATP school).
The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min,
to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the
moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway
from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute
of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're
all somewhere on my property.
If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right,
we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired
pilots,
1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
-Stormy
We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile
over here.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
gonna be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
(power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is
not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live
around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the
hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all
the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
buffet, but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated
lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While
none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like
hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for
a
dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90
minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is
very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our
company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold
out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close
together. Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put
together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is
handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help
from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for
this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out.
God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
Let's just dead-reckon & see how many make it!
Randy Utsey
Cappy's GIB (what do I know?)
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Here's what's up:
>
> AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
> The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered
> that in ATP school).
> The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal
> min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
>
> Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint
> accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other
> end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in
> mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all
> so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property.
>
> If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes
> right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for
> visually impaired pilots,
> 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
>
> Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
>
> -Stormy
>
> We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise
> missile over here.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
>
> Air Nav shows:
> 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
> 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
>
>
> Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
>
> My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
>
> What's up Doc?
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
>
>
> Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
> gonna be fine.
>
> Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT,
> so
> officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
>
> Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field
> Clifton
> Forge, VA
>
> Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
> (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding
> obstrucutions is
> not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using
> RWY 32
> (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they
> live
> around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard
> for you!
> Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end
> by the
> hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
>
> Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated
> persons
> who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we
> suggest
> you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your
> pride and
> executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good
> braking
> action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you
> overshoot
> and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at
> Stormy's
> place; don't be the first.
>
> Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to
> all
> the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
>
> Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
>
> Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light
> desserts.
>
> Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a
> reference
> to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
> buffet, but it is not expected.
>
> Items to bring:
>
> ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have
> accumulated
> lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your
> butt,
> the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement,
> Archimedes.
> (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
>
> ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel.
> Frisbee.
> Camera.
>
> ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm
> sittin'
> here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into
> something
> they shouldn't touch.)
>
> ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing.
> While
> none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery.
> Fishing
> tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license
> is de
> rigeur.
>
> ~Snake repellent & antivenom.
>
> That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
> fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and
> run like
> hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why
> become a
> statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea...
> for a
> dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget
> this
> little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
>
> ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
>
> ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate,
> are
> optional if you don't.
>
> Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
> Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a
> 90
> minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short
> mosey
> from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by
> 1600 is
> very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your
> schedule
> allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that
> our
> company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey"
> alot.
> It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
>
> For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a
> group
> that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You
> won't
> be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
> wussies.
>
> And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
> forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already
> sold
> out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all
> close
> together. Great time in store there!
>
> I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based
> on the
> RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the
> local
> paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please
> remember
> to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if
> interviewed.
> Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better
> put
> together a press kit...
>
> I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
> cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife
> is
> handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated
> help
> from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
> installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time
> for
> this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work
> out.
> God is good.
>
> See you Saturday!
>
> -Stormy
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com
Stormy, your email read 37-42.28 (thats forty TWO.28). Airnav states
37-47.28. That difference is 5 min. of latitude which is 30,000 ft
=5.68miles. Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will).
What did we do before GPS? Was it something like looking at maps, plotting
courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints?
What a novel idea!
Mike
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Here's what's up:
AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered
that in ATP school).
The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal
min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint
accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other
end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in
mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so
close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property.
If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes
right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for
visually impaired pilots,
1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
-Stormy
We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise
missile over here.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
<willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
gonna be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT,
so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field
Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
(power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions
is
not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using
RWY 32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they
live
around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for
you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end
by the
hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated
persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we
suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride
and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good
braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you
overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at
Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to
all
the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light
desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a
reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
buffet, but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have
accumulated
lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your
butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel.
Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm
sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into
something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing.
While
none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery.
Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is
de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run
like
hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why
become a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea...
for a
dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget
this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate,
are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a
90
minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short
mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by
1600 is
very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our
company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey"
alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a
group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You
won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already
sold
out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all
close
together. Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based
on the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please
remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if
interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better
put
together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife
is
handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated
help
from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time
for
this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work
out.
God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS.
How is the WX looking.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Here's what's up:
AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that
in ATP school).
The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min,
to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy
the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway
from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute
of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're
all somewhere on my property.
If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right,
we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired
pilots,
1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
-Stormy
We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile
over here.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
gonna be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
(power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is
not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY
32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live
around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by
the
hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all
the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
buffet, but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated
lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While
none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like
hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become
a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for
a
dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90
minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600
is
very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our
company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold
out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close
together. Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on
the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put
together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is
handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help
from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for
this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out.
God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Well that does it. I'm getting a trip tick from AAA and driving!
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:34 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N /
> 079-46.07W
>
> 37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be
> 47 is all BS.
>
> How is the WX looking.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Here's what's up:
>
> AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
> The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I
> thought they covered that in ATP school).
> The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the
> deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
>
> Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the
> waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else
> you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the
> original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of
> lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close,
> I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property.
>
> If you can't see us by the time you get at least the
> degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600
> feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots,
> 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
>
> Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
>
> -Stormy
>
> We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might
> send a cruise missile over here.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
>
> Air Nav shows:
> 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
> 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
>
>
> Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
>
> My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
>
> What's up Doc?
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ;
> OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
>
>
> Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain
> date; the weather's
> gonna be fine.
>
> Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm
> monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
> officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed
> you at noon.
>
> Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA
> Hop-Along Field Clifton
> Forge, VA
>
> Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No
> approach obstacles
> (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav
> regarding obstrucutions is
> not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing
> direction is using RWY 32
> (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey
> buzzards; they live
> around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have
> little regard for you!
> Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park
> at the far end by the
> hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
>
> Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious,
> opinionated persons
> who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't
> take it, we suggest
> you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest
> swallowing your pride and
> executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted
> with good braking
> action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the
> river if you overshoot
> and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing
> mishap at Stormy's
> place; don't be the first.
>
> Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give
> this number to all
> the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
>
> Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
>
> Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled
> water, light desserts.
>
> Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a
> dish (not a reference
> to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish,
> to round out our
> buffet, but it is not expected.
>
> Items to bring:
>
> ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so
> we have accumulated
> lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them.
> The bigger your butt,
> the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal
> displacement, Archimedes.
> (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
>
> ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off.
> Beach towel. Frisbee.
> Camera.
>
> ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey,
> sure as I'm sittin'
> here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail
> and get into something
> they shouldn't touch.)
>
> ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while
> swimming/fishing/tubing. While
> none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very
> slippery. Fishing
> tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA
> fishing license is de
> rigeur.
>
> ~Snake repellent & antivenom.
>
> That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a
> long, slithery,
> fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate
> the river and run like
> hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky
> varmints; why become a
> statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be
> a good idea... for a
> dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is.
> If you forget this
> little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
>
> ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
>
> ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks,
> as appropriate, are
> optional if you don't.
>
> Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's
> been here before.)
> Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's
> shallow, and a 90
> minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end
> up just a short mosey
> from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching
> for home by 1600 is
> very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight
> and your schedule
> allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to
> bed so that our
> company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain
> folks "mosey" alot.
> It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
>
> For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing,
> there is always a group
> that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers
> to return. You won't
> be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll
> get over it, you
> wussies.
>
> And for those who can't make it this year, there's always
> 2007, and don't
> forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend:
> one B&B already sold
> out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island
> and it's all close
> together. Great time in store there!
>
> I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least
> 15 planes based on the
> RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year
> we made the local
> paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news
> day). Please remember
> to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your
> host if interviewed.
> Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool.
> Maybe I'd better put
> together a press kit...
>
> I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a
> last minute
> cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you
> all :-) My wife is
> handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with
> greatly appreciated help
> from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing
> my back deck and
> installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be
> finished in time for
> this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure
> it'll all work out.
> God is good.
>
> See you Saturday!
>
> -Stormy
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
What did we do before GPS? Was it something like looking at maps, plotting
courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints?
What a novel idea!
Yaa Mike, that is why I am collecting E6Bs to go along with my collection of
slide rules!
Dale
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
You are right
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:33:32 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS.
How is the WX looking.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Here's what's up:
AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that
in ATP school).
The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal
min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy
the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the
runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a
minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet
they're all somewhere on my property.
If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes
right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually
impaired pilots,
1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
-Stormy
We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise
missile over here.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
gonna be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
(power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is
not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY
32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live
around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for
you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by
the
hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride
and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you
overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all
the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
buffet, but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated
lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your
butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel.
Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm
sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into
something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While
none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run
like
hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become
a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for
a
dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90
minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short
mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600
is
very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our
company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You
won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already
sold
out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close
together. Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on
the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if
interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put
together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is
handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated
help
from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for
this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out.
God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Transcription error on my part from the AirNav numbers. 37-47 is correct on the
lattitude. Repeat: published data from AOPA and AirNAv is CORRECT.
Good catch. I still didn't see it even after you pointed it out today.
Now about the wx: it looks awful for Saturday now, and I actually trust them this
close in to the date. I can't do it next Saturday due to a college commitment
with my son. So for rain dates, the choices would be Sunday 6/25 or Saturday
July 8th. I plan to "make the call" early Saturday. Sunday will be my preferred
rain date, since we have the preparation momentum going. On the bring
side, the deluge threy're calling for will cool off these 95 degree days and
refill the river a bit.
Watch this spot for breaking news Saturday before you launch!
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:33:32 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS.
How is the WX looking.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Here's what's up:
AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that
in ATP school).
The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal
min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy
the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the
runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a
minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet
they're all somewhere on my property.
If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes
right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually
impaired pilots,
1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
-Stormy
We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise
missile over here.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
Air Nav shows:
37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
What's up Doc?
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
gonna be fine.
Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so
officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton
Forge, VA
Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
(power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is
not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY
32
(slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live
around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for
you!
Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by
the
hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons
who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest
you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride
and
executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking
action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you
overshoot
and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's
place; don't be the first.
Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all
the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference
to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
buffet, but it is not expected.
Items to bring:
~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated
lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your
butt,
the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.
(Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel.
Frisbee.
Camera.
~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm
sittin'
here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into
something
they shouldn't touch.)
~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While
none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing
tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de
rigeur.
~Snake repellent & antivenom.
That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run
like
hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become
a
statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for
a
dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this
little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are
optional if you don't.
Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90
minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short
mosey
from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600
is
very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule
allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our
company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.
It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group
that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You
won't
be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
wussies.
And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already
sold
out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close
together. Great time in store there!
I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on
the
RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local
paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember
to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if
interviewed.
Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put
together a press kit...
I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is
handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated
help
from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for
this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out.
God is good.
See you Saturday!
-Stormy
________________________________________________________________________
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Hey, yeah, it's on the sectional and all...
Naw, I admit it, I goofed and then didn't see what you were pointing out plain
as day.
-Stormy
Lost Patrol Flight Leader
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:26:13 -0400
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
Let's just dead-reckon & see how many make it!
Randy Utsey
Cappy's GIB (what do I know?)
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Here's what's up:
>
> AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
> The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered > that
in ATP school).
> The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal >
min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
>
> Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint > accuracy
the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other > end of the
runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in > mind that
a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all > so close, I'd
bet they're all somewhere on my property.
>
> If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes > right,
we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for > visually
impaired pilots,
> 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-)
>
> Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
>
> -Stormy
>
> We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise > missile
over here.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?
>
> Air Nav shows:
> 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
> 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W
>
>
> Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W
>
> My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
>
> What's up Doc?
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
>
>
> Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's
> gonna be fine.
>
> Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, > so
> officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon.
>
> Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field > Clifton
> Forge, VA
>
> Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles
> (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding > obstrucutions
is
> not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using > RWY
32
> (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they > live
> around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard > for
you!
> Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end > by
the
> hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired.
>
> Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated > persons
> who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we > suggest
> you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your > pride
and
> executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good > braking
> action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you > overshoot
> and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at > Stormy's
> place; don't be the first.
>
> Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to > all
> the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too.
>
> Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
>
> Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light > desserts.
>
> Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a > reference
> to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
> buffet, but it is not expected.
>
> Items to bring:
>
> ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have > accumulated
> lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your > butt,
> the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, > Archimedes.
> (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)
>
> ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. > Frisbee.
> Camera.
>
> ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm > sittin'
> here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into > something
> they shouldn't touch.)
>
> ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. > While
> none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. > Fishing
> tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license > is
de
> rigeur.
>
> ~Snake repellent & antivenom.
>
> That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery,
> fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and > run
like
> hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why > become
a
> statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... > for
a
> dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget > this
> little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
>
> ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
>
> ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, > are
> optional if you don't.
>
> Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.)
> Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a >
90
> minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short > mosey
> from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by > 1600
is
> very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your > schedule
> allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that > our
> company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" > alot.
> It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
>
> For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a > group
> that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You > won't
> be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you
> wussies.
>
> And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't
> forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already >
sold
> out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all > close
> together. Great time in store there!
>
> I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based > on the
> RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the > local
> paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please > remember
> to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if > interviewed.
> Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better > put
> together a press kit...
>
> I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute
> cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife > is
> handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated >
help
> from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and
> installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time > for
> this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work > out.
> God is good.
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> See you Saturday!
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> -Stormy
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