---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/22/06: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:05 AM - Re: RUQ fuel (Dale Ensing) 2. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (Steve Glasgow) 3. 07:28 AM - Tragic Loss (Bert Murillo) 4. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (ben burril) 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: RUQ fuel (Lenleg@aol.com) 6. 11:39 AM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow) 7. 12:20 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Dale Ensing) 8. 12:55 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow) 9. 01:14 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com) 10. 01:26 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Randy Utsey) 11. 01:29 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Mike.Munn@fluor.com) 12. 01:33 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Steve Glasgow) 13. 02:23 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Larry Bowen) 14. 06:15 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (Dale Ensing) 15. 06:40 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com) 16. 06:48 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM/ latest weather update (sportav8r@aol.com) 17. 06:51 PM - Re: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM (sportav8r@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:59 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately? Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all taxes? Dale ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:07 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Yes, it is holding at $3.60. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately? Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all taxes? Dale ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:07 AM PST US From: "Bert Murillo" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Tragic Loss --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Bert Murillo" hi: Does any one know, what happened. ? We have lost a good friend. Cris Good. A builder of a award winner rv6a. HIs web page was legendary.. Our condolences, go to his family. Bert rv6a do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:48 AM PST US From: "ben burril" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril" I purchase gas there on sat and it was current then ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:05 AM > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" > > Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately? > Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all > taxes? > Dale > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:48 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RUQ fuel --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com Got fuel there last Saturday .. it was current. Len In a message dated 6/22/2006 9:06:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, densing@carolina.rr.com writes: --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" Anyone purchase 100LL at RUQ -Rowan County lately? Air Nav says price is $3.60 SS. Is that current? Does that include all taxes? Dale ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:00 AM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. See you Saturday! -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:50 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" AOPA Flight Planner show Hop Along at N37' 47.3 W79'46.1 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:32 PM PST US From: "Steve Glasgow" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Looks like we got him Dale. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" AOPA Flight Planner show Hop Along at N37' 47.3 W79'46.1 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:25 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Here's what's up: AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that in ATP school). The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! -Stormy We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. See you Saturday! -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:26:40 PM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" Let's just dead-reckon & see how many make it! Randy Utsey Cappy's GIB (what do I know?) djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > Here's what's up: > > AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. > The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered > that in ATP school). > The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal > min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). > > Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint > accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other > end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in > mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all > so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. > > If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes > right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for > visually impaired pilots, > 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) > > Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! > > -Stormy > > We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise > missile over here. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > > Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? > > Air Nav shows: > 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W > 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W > > > Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W > > My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W > > What's up Doc? > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast > > > Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's > gonna be fine. > > Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, > so > officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. > > Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field > Clifton > Forge, VA > > Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles > (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding > obstrucutions is > not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using > RWY 32 > (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they > live > around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard > for you! > Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end > by the > hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. > > Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated > persons > who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we > suggest > you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your > pride and > executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good > braking > action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you > overshoot > and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at > Stormy's > place; don't be the first. > > Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to > all > the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. > > Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz > > Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light > desserts. > > Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a > reference > to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our > buffet, but it is not expected. > > Items to bring: > > ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have > accumulated > lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your > butt, > the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, > Archimedes. > (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) > > ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. > Frisbee. > Camera. > > ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm > sittin' > here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into > something > they shouldn't touch.) > > ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. > While > none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. > Fishing > tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license > is de > rigeur. > > ~Snake repellent & antivenom. > > That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, > fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and > run like > hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why > become a > statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... > for a > dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget > this > little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. > > ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. > > ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, > are > optional if you don't. > > Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) > Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a > 90 > minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short > mosey > from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by > 1600 is > very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your > schedule > allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that > our > company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" > alot. > It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. > > For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a > group > that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You > won't > be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you > wussies. > > And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't > forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already > sold > out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all > close > together. Great time in store there! > > I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based > on the > RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the > local > paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please > remember > to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if > interviewed. > Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better > put > together a press kit... > > I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute > cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife > is > handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated > help > from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and > installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time > for > this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work > out. > God is good. > > See you Saturday! > > -Stormy > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:29:48 PM PST US From: Mike.Munn@fluor.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com Stormy, your email read 37-42.28 (thats forty TWO.28). Airnav states 37-47.28. That difference is 5 min. of latitude which is 30,000 ft =5.68miles. Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will). What did we do before GPS? Was it something like looking at maps, plotting courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints? What a novel idea! Mike sportav8r@aol.com Sent by: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@m To atronics.com rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 06/22/2006 04:13 PM cc Please respond to rvsoutheast-list Subject Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Here's what's up: AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that in ATP school). The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! -Stormy We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. 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(I thought they covered that in ATP school). The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! -Stormy We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. See you Saturday! -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:15 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Well that does it. I'm getting a trip tick from AAA and driving! - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:34 PM > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > --> > > Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / > 079-46.07W > > 37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be > 47 is all BS. > > How is the WX looking. > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > Here's what's up: > > AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. > The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I > thought they covered that in ATP school). > The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the > deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). > > Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the > waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else > you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the > original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of > lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, > I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. > > If you can't see us by the time you get at least the > degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 > feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, > 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) > > Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! > > -Stormy > > We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might > send a cruise missile over here. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > > Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? > > Air Nav shows: > 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W > 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W > > > Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W > > My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W > > What's up Doc? > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; > OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast > > > Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain > date; the weather's > gonna be fine. > > Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm > monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so > officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed > you at noon. > > Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA > Hop-Along Field Clifton > Forge, VA > > Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No > approach obstacles > (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav > regarding obstrucutions is > not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing > direction is using RWY 32 > (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey > buzzards; they live > around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have > little regard for you! > Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park > at the far end by the > hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. > > Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, > opinionated persons > who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't > take it, we suggest > you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest > swallowing your pride and > executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted > with good braking > action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the > river if you overshoot > and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing > mishap at Stormy's > place; don't be the first. > > Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give > this number to all > the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. > > Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz > > Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled > water, light desserts. > > Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a > dish (not a reference > to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, > to round out our > buffet, but it is not expected. > > Items to bring: > > ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so > we have accumulated > lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. > The bigger your butt, > the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal > displacement, Archimedes. > (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) > > ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. > Beach towel. Frisbee. > Camera. > > ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, > sure as I'm sittin' > here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail > and get into something > they shouldn't touch.) > > ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while > swimming/fishing/tubing. While > none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very > slippery. Fishing > tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA > fishing license is de > rigeur. > > ~Snake repellent & antivenom. > > That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a > long, slithery, > fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate > the river and run like > hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky > varmints; why become a > statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be > a good idea... for a > dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. > If you forget this > little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. > > ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. > > ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, > as appropriate, are > optional if you don't. > > Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's > been here before.) > Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's > shallow, and a 90 > minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end > up just a short mosey > from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching > for home by 1600 is > very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight > and your schedule > allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to > bed so that our > company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain > folks "mosey" alot. > It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. > > For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, > there is always a group > that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers > to return. You won't > be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll > get over it, you > wussies. > > And for those who can't make it this year, there's always > 2007, and don't > forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: > one B&B already sold > out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island > and it's all close > together. Great time in store there! > > I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least > 15 planes based on the > RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year > we made the local > paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news > day). Please remember > to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your > host if interviewed. > Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. > Maybe I'd better put > together a press kit... > > I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a > last minute > cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you > all :-) My wife is > handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with > greatly appreciated help > from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing > my back deck and > installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be > finished in time for > this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure > it'll all work out. > God is good. > > See you Saturday! > > -Stormy > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:34 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" What did we do before GPS? Was it something like looking at maps, plotting courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints? What a novel idea! Yaa Mike, that is why I am collecting E6Bs to go along with my collection of slide rules! Dale ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:03 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com You are right -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:33:32 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W 37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS. How is the WX looking. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Here's what's up: AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that in ATP school). The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! -Stormy We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. See you Saturday! -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:43 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM/ latest weather update --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Transcription error on my part from the AirNav numbers. 37-47 is correct on the lattitude. Repeat: published data from AOPA and AirNAv is CORRECT. Good catch. I still didn't see it even after you pointed it out today. Now about the wx: it looks awful for Saturday now, and I actually trust them this close in to the date. I can't do it next Saturday due to a college commitment with my son. So for rain dates, the choices would be Sunday 6/25 or Saturday July 8th. I plan to "make the call" early Saturday. Sunday will be my preferred rain date, since we have the preparation momentum going. On the bring side, the deluge threy're calling for will cool off these 95 degree days and refill the river a bit. Watch this spot for breaking news Saturday before you launch! -Stormy -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:33:32 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy I know all that. But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W 37-42 not 37-47. I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS. How is the WX looking. Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Here's what's up: AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that in ATP school). The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots, 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! -Stormy We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? Air Nav shows: 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W What's up Doc? Cappy ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine. Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field Clifton Forge, VA Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you! Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first. Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts. Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected. Items to bring: ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes. (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. Frisbee. Camera. ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur. ~Snake repellent & antivenom. That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't. Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot. It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You won't be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies. And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together. Great time in store there! I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed. Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work out. God is good. See you Saturday! -Stormy ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:18 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Hey, yeah, it's on the sectional and all... Naw, I admit it, I goofed and then didn't see what you were pointing out plain as day. -Stormy Lost Patrol Flight Leader -----Original Message----- Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:26:13 -0400 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" Let's just dead-reckon & see how many make it! Randy Utsey Cappy's GIB (what do I know?) djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:13 PM > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > Here's what's up: > > AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds. > The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered > that in ATP school). > The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal > min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet). > > Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint > accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other > end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA. Keep in > mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet. These values are all > so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property. > > If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes > right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for > visually impaired pilots, > 1-800-IM BLIND. Or 122.85 would work, too ;-) > > Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here! > > -Stormy > > We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise > missile over here. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:38:10 -0400 > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" > > > Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM? > > Air Nav shows: > 37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W > 37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W > > > Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W > > My GPS shows: 37-47.283N / 79-46.055W > > What's up Doc? > > Cappy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: sportav8r@aol.com > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; OhioValleyRVators@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:14 AM > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com > > 4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast > > > Rain date: Rain date? We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's > gonna be fine. > > Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, > so > officially we're looking for you at 10:00am. We will feed you at noon. > > Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W Identifier: 12VA Hop-Along Field > Clifton > Forge, VA > > Runway: 2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. No approach obstacles > (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding > obstrucutions is > not correct). Elevation 1060 MSL. Preferred landing direction is using > RWY 32 > (slightly uphill). Left hand traffic. Watch for turkey buzzards; they > live > around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard > for you! > Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end > by the > hangar. BYO tiedowns if desired. > > Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated > persons > who landed ahead of you. If you can dish it out but can't take it, we > suggest > you get here before "they" do. That said, we suggest swallowing your > pride and > executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good > braking > action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you > overshoot > and there is no overrun area. There's never been a landing mishap at > Stormy's > place; don't be the first. > > Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. Give this number to > all > the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely. Insurance agents, too. > > Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz > > Menu: BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light > desserts. > > Cost: Your smile. This is our treat. You may bring a dish (not a > reference > to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our > buffet, but it is not expected. > > Items to bring: > > ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have > accumulated > lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them. The bigger your > butt, > the bigger the tube you need. Tonnage must equal displacement, > Archimedes. > (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.) > > ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit. Sun block. Bug-off. Beach towel. > Frisbee. > Camera. > > ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. (Hey, sure as I'm > sittin' > here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into > something > they shouldn't touch.) > > ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing. > While > none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. > Fishing > tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license > is de > rigeur. > > ~Snake repellent & antivenom. > > That last one was a joke. If you should happen to see a long, slithery, > fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and > run like > hell. We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why > become a > statistic? That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... > for a > dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is. If you forget > this > little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home. > > ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching. > > ~Cigars of choice, if you partake. Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, > are > optional if you don't. > > Schedule: Informal. Really loose. (Ask anyone who's been here before.) > Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a > 90 > minute float trip if it's deep enough. Either way, we end up just a short > mosey > from the runway. Partaking of all activities and launching for home by > 1600 is > very doable. You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your > schedule > allows. Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that > our > company can go home. In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" > alot. > It's slower than walking, but more relaxing. > > For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a > group > that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return. You > won't > be lonely. You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you > wussies. > > And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't > forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already > sold > out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all > close > together. Great time in store there! > > I think that about covers it. We're expecting at least 15 planes based > on the > RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more. Last year we made the > local > paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day). Please > remember > to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if > interviewed. > Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool. Maybe I'd better > put > together a press kit... > > I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute > cancellation for wx. Sure looking forward to seeing you all :-) My wife > is > handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated > help > from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and > installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time > for > this event. Oh, well; that's life on the farm. I'm sure it'll all work > out. > God is good. > > See you Saturday! > > -Stormy > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________