---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/17/06: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - Thanks, Stormy (Randy Utsey) 2. 05:55 AM - OSH Advise (tadsargent) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: OSH Advise (Lenleg@aol.com) 4. 06:22 AM - Re: OSH Advise (James Clark) 5. 06:51 AM - Re: OSH Advise (Randy Utsey) 6. 07:24 AM - Re: OSH Advise (Larry Bowen) 7. 07:24 AM - Re: OSH Advise (Mike.Munn@fluor.com) 8. 10:11 AM - Re: OSH Advise (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 9. 04:57 PM - Which EFIS? (Paul D. Franzon) 10. 06:16 PM - Reno Red flies again. (bill crothers) 11. 06:31 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (l-fussell) 12. 06:41 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (tadsargent) 13. 07:42 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (Larry Bowen) 14. 07:44 PM - Re: Reno Red flies again. (Larry Bowen) 15. 10:43 PM - Re: Reno Red flies again. (James Clark) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:04 AM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Thanks, Stormy Just got back from a week at the beach and did not get a chance to say thank you for your warm and gracious hospitality at the 06 fly-in. It was great fun and the weather was a hit, likewise the tubing and barbeque! Thanks again to you and Miriam and the kid's. Randy Utsey RV-7 slowly being quick built ----- Original Message ----- From: tadsargent To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's a "GO!" Stormy You put on quite a spread. 82degree weather, tall water and short grass. Terry and I had the day of the summer. Ron Shreck asked me while tubing what the poor people were doing today, my answer was tubing down the river smoking a cigar, but they did not arrive in a rocket ship. Thank you again Tad Sargent TS "Stripes" ----- Original Message ----- From: sportav8r@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com ; Mid-AtlRVwing@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Stormy's a "GO!" Most excellent day shaping up here... the haze is burning off and we're VFR now. Forecast is a balmy 81F and light winds, low storm chance, great river level, no TFR's of any impact. The grass is green and mowed and the fly-in is ON! Pack your tubes and lawn chairs if you've got room. I'll have a handheld tuned to 122.85 from here on out; see ya soon! -Stormy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:56 AM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH before and I am seeking info on several fronts. 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar 3 Where do you eat in the evening 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds More questions as they come to mind Thanks TS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:32 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:57:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadsargent@bellsouth.net writes: I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH before and I am seeking info on several fronts. 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar 3 Where do you eat in the evening 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds More questions as they come to mind Thanks TS 1. Everything is expensive at OSH ... very commercial ... you can pay for camping, entrance, etc by credit card .. so you just need enough for incidentals and food. 2. HBC ... you can now park with the RVs and camp right there ... great spot. 3. sometimes on the grounds ... walk to a nearby restaurant. 4. don't know 5. We are going on a different route ... you can go to _www.airnav.com_ (http://www.airnav.com) and plan a route around the cheapest fuel stops. 6. Don't know ... but bring a beer for me !!! Len ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:46 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise Not a direct answer to your questions but if you decide you wish to stay in the dorms instead, let me know. There is a cafeteria there and daily transportation. I think they are $40 per night and the bus is $4 round trip per day. Food is around $10 for all you can eat. Go as FAR NORTH as you can get before getting fuel. Can you make it to Rockford? KRFD. I don't know the price of fuel there though. What days are you considering? James ... off to the airport On 7/17/06, tadsargent wrote: > > I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH > before and I am seeking info on several fronts. > > 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay > 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar > 3 Where do you eat in the evening > 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies > 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way > 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds > > More questions as they come to mind > Thanks > TS > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:29 AM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise We stopped at DNV last year / they rebuild P-51's there / its a good stop for enroute to stay west of ORD on the way to Rippon Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 djdist@bellsouth.net www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenleg@aol.com To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise In a message dated 7/17/2006 8:57:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tadsargent@bellsouth.net writes: I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH before and I am seeking info on several fronts. 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar 3 Where do you eat in the evening 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds More questions as they come to mind Thanks TS 1. Everything is expensive at OSH ... very commercial ... you can pay for camping, entrance, etc by credit card .. so you just need enough for incidentals and food. 2. HBC ... you can now park with the RVs and camp right there ... great spot. 3. sometimes on the grounds ... walk to a nearby restaurant. 4. don't know 5. We are going on a different route ... you can go to www.airnav.com and plan a route around the cheapest fuel stops. 6. Don't know ... but bring a beer for me !!! Len ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:52 AM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" 1. $200 is plenty. ATMs on site if more is needed. Credit cards accepted many places. 2. Either has it's advantages. I stayed at HBC lat year, it was fine. There are more ammenities at camp S. (supplies, food, etc). 3. Bum a ride into town, or several options on site. 4. The Red Barn (?) is near camp Scholar. It has most anything you'd need. 5. Airnav.com. My current plan is GYY -- more expensive than some, cheaper than many. Then along the lake underneath ORD. (Worked well going home last year.) 6. Yes, unless something's changed. -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com tadsargent wrote: > I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH > before and I am seeking info on several fronts. > > 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay > 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar > 3 Where do you eat in the evening > 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies > 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way > 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds > > More questions as they come to mind > Thanks > TS ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:52 AM PST US From: Mike.Munn@fluor.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Mike.Munn@fluor.com 1. Camping fees are $18 per night. See the EAA website, there is a wealth of info there. 2. Camp Scholler is for drive in camping, 3. Plenty of places on the site to eat, various types of foods, not cheap though. 4. There used to be (2) grocery store on site, one at the north end and the other on the south end @ Camp Scholler. Again, the EAA website should have that info. 5. I always stopped near Chicago (in the 170). That left me plenty of fuel when arriving at OSH for possible holding and traffic. 6. Alcohol used to not be allowed, however there seemed to be campers who discreetly imbided their spirits. (normally at night after the day crowds were gone). The MOST important advice is to download the Notam, print it, study it, know it, and have it handy upon your arrival. Be prepared to fly slo.......w from Ripon to landing. You may be behind a Cub (he will be flying at max cruise speed :<). Listed to the controllers, do what they tell you, & don't talk on the frequency. EAA says there are several mass arrival groups scheduled to arrive on Sat. the 23nd in the afternoon. If you are planning on arriving then, you may want to reschedule your arrival. There will be times when the field is closed to arrivals due to parking saturation. However, if flying a show plane (any homebuild, antique, classic, warbird, etc.), they will always allow you to land and they will find a parking place for you. Depending upon your arrival time and date, be prepared for a lot of traffic. Also, they do not bend the aiport opening and closing times. Take you tiedowns as your plane must be tied down. They usually are available for rent, but it is better to have your own. You will need good walking shoes and mosquito repellent. They raise them big and a lot of them. "tadsargent" Sent by: To owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@m atronics.com cc 07/17/2006 09:02 AM Please respond to Subject rvsoutheast-list RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise I am looking for advise on the upcoming week. I have never been to OSH before and I am seeking info on several fronts. 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar 3 Where do you eat in the evening 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds More questions as they come to mind Thanks TS ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:13 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: OSH Advise In a message dated 7/17/06 7:57:11 AM Central Daylight Time, tadsargent@bellsouth.net writes: > 1 How much cash for 3 nights camping stay Not sure- about $15-18/nite- best check the website > 2 Which is better for camping HBC or camp Scholar Camped HBC last year and it was a blast- your "campsite" is restricted to area behind your wings and the planes are parked pretty close, so it can be cozy- bring a small tent! They had a shower trailer last year that was excellent. Scholler is also great, but you will do a lot of walking or have to wait for trams. Bicycle is good xport if you can bring one. Very good camp stores, either by main entrance or Big Red Barn, which is fairly convenient to HBC. > 3 Where do you eat in the evening > Ace's cafeteria near Forums area had a decent spread last year, and there may be others, but not sure. > 4 Can you walk to a grocery for supplies See above on camping > 5 Where should I stop for fuel along the way Nowadays, it's a crap shoot- try Airnav.com and make sure prices shown have very recent updates. They usually offer some discount at OSH, but it's looking like you'll pay through the nose regardless this year > 6 Is alcohol allowed on the grounds > I personally prefer it in the cooler, cup or belly- there are some restrictions, but Camp Scholler really knows how to party! Check website for details... Mark Phillips - camping in Vintage this year under wing of buddy's C-170 do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:41 PM PST US From: "Paul D. Franzon" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:54 PM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Thx to considerable efforts from many loyal SERVers over the last 6 weeks, Reno Red is airborne again. With Cappy and Ed Anderson cheering me on, I did my 30 minute break-in w/ no adverse items. Tomorrow a.m. before heat sets in, Cappy joins me to log a little time and check/re-check temps, fuel flow, speeds, etc. Expect to be full time when everyone returns from Oshkosh. He gets to log a little more 2 ship time on my wing. Bill __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:21 PM PST US From: "l-fussell" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? That's the same conclusion I reached. The dynon is a great contender but with ap and gps the blue mtn was my choice. Regards, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul D. Franzon To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:23 PM PST US From: "tadsargent" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Paul I also lean to the Blue Mountain but check out the GRT EFIS and compare the features. TS ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul D. Franzon To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:50 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/ - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:22 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Congrats! Run it hard for several hours to complete the break-in.... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:16 PM > To: SERV > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > --> > > Thx to considerable efforts from many loyal SERVers over the > last 6 weeks, Reno Red is airborne again. > With Cappy and Ed Anderson cheering me on, I did my 30 minute > break-in w/ no adverse items. Tomorrow a.m. > before heat sets in, Cappy joins me to log a little time and > check/re-check temps, fuel flow, speeds, etc. > Expect to be full time when everyone returns from Oshkosh. > He gets to log a little more 2 ship time on my wing. Bill > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:15 PM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. Congrats Bill!!!!! Let me be the first to ask ... How fast is it??????? :-) Could not resist. James On 7/17/06, bill crothers wrote: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers > > > Thx to considerable efforts from many loyal SERVers > over the last 6 weeks, Reno Red is airborne again. > With Cappy and Ed Anderson cheering me on, I did my 30 > minute break-in w/ no adverse items. Tomorrow a.m. > before heat sets in, Cappy joins me to log a little > time and check/re-check temps, fuel flow, speeds, etc. > Expect to be full time when everyone returns from > Oshkosh. He gets to log a little more 2 ship time on > my wing. Bill > > __________________________________________________ > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com .