---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/18/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:35 AM - Re: Reno Red flies again. (bill crothers) 2. 04:36 AM - Re: Reno Red flies again. (bill crothers) 3. 05:58 AM - Re: Which EFIS? (Wayne Williams) 4. 06:48 AM - Re: Which EFIS? (James Clark) 5. 01:22 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (Wayne Williams) 6. 01:54 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (Randy Utsey) 7. 02:28 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (Radomir Zaric) 8. 04:40 PM - Re: Which EFIS? (Bill Repucci) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:46 AM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Will advise after this a.m. flight. was indication 180 mph at 24/24 with 13 gph fuel flow full rich. seems like I'm gonna be FAST...will race Cappy to compare. Next steps, mount smoke and start decals. --- James Clark wrote: > Congrats Bill!!!!! > > Let me be the first to ask ... > > How fast is it??????? :-) Could not resist. > > James > > > On 7/17/06, bill crothers > wrote: > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill > crothers > > > > > > Thx to considerable efforts from many loyal > SERVers > > over the last 6 weeks, Reno Red is airborne again. > > With Cappy and Ed Anderson cheering me on, I did > my 30 > > minute break-in w/ no adverse items. Tomorrow > a.m. > > before heat sets in, Cappy joins me to log a > little > > time and check/re-check temps, fuel flow, speeds, > etc. > > Expect to be full time when everyone returns from > > Oshkosh. He gets to log a little more 2 ship time > on > > my wing. Bill > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > This is an alternate email. Please continue to email > me at > james@nextupventures.com . > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:15 AM PST US From: bill crothers Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers Roger that. starting today w/ 2 hrs. before heat builds up. --- Larry Bowen wrote: > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry > Bowen" > > Congrats! Run it hard for several hours to complete > the break-in.... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:16 PM > > To: SERV > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Reno Red flies again. > > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill > crothers > > --> > > > > Thx to considerable efforts from many loyal > SERVers over the > > last 6 weeks, Reno Red is airborne again. > > With Cappy and Ed Anderson cheering me on, I did > my 30 minute > > break-in w/ no adverse items. Tomorrow a.m. > > before heat sets in, Cappy joins me to log a > little time and > > check/re-check temps, fuel flow, speeds, etc. > > Expect to be full time when everyone returns from > Oshkosh. > > He gets to log a little more 2 ship time on my > wing. Bill > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List > > > Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:37 AM PST US From: "Wayne Williams" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Blue Mountain does have a good product, but=85 I have a G3 Lite. They announced the product but did not deliver any for 1 year. It had numerous bugs that had to be worked out in the field. The company did stick with me in working them out but I felt like one of their employees as we tested idea after idea. (Getting G3 to communicate with my Garmin 430=97which they had already promised would work.) Their GPS does not allow a flight plan with multiple waypoints and I still don=92t trust the AI IFR (It will occasionally tumble. Many others still report this same problem.). My Dynon on the other hand has been stable as a rock=97and a much faster roll rate. Note that the G2 could not be upgraded to a G3 and the no G3 to G4, either. Check out their message board. (http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/talk/) It is informative. Right now if had it to do over again, I=92d go with the Grand Rapids technologies, or maybe the new Advanced Flight Systems unit. (Wouldn=92t trade in my Dynon, though.) Wayne _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul D. Franzon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006 -- 7/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:23 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Paul, I am planning to use the GRT Horizon Series with a TruTrak autopilot in the RV I am building now. You can get some actual experience feedback from Ron Schreck on it as he has a dual display model in his RV8. They make a "Sport" Model that is less IFR oriented than their "Horizon" Series but the both "look" the same. I would say "standby" until AFTER Oshkosh as I am sure there will be reports on the "latest". James On 7/17/06, Paul D. Franzon wrote: > > On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from > having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an > EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to > several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the > AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems > to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, > etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. > > > Any suggestions please? > > > Regards, > > Paul D. Franzon > > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:59 PM PST US From: "Wayne Williams" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Another thought on an EFIS; I never really considered what it would take to update the database or firmware. My Garmin uses a memory card and it is very easy. The BMA requires a laptop at the airplane and proficiency with an FTP program. You also have to hook up a USB keyboard separately, all from the back of the unit! The Dynon uses a serial port/plug to the laptop at the plane as well, but their support program does all the transferring. Just a thought=85 Wayne _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul D. Franzon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006 -- 7/17/2006 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:02 PM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? updated if you are using their GPS module? Randy Utsey RV-7 Quick-slow build -- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Williams To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Another thought on an EFIS; I never really considered what it would take to update the database or firmware. My Garmin uses a memory card and it is very easy. The BMA requires a laptop at the airplane and proficiency with an FTP program. You also have to hook up a USB keyboard separately, all from the back of the unit! The Dynon uses a serial port/plug to the laptop at the plane as well, but their support program does all the transferring. Just a thought=85 Wayne ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul D. Franzon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006 -- 7/17/2006 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:33 PM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Using one of those USB memory sticks.. you can run a little extension cable for the USB to the panel to make it a bit easier. _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:53 PM updated if you are using their GPS module? Randy Utsey RV-7 Quick-slow build -- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:23 PM Another thought on an EFIS; I never really considered what it would take to update the database or firmware. My Garmin uses a memory card and it is very easy. The BMA requires a laptop at the airplane and proficiency with an FTP program. You also have to hook up a USB keyboard separately, all from the back of the unit! The Dynon uses a serial port/plug to the laptop at the plane as well, but their support program does all the transferring. Just a thought. Wayne _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul D. Franzon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006 -- 7/17/2006 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:27 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Which EFIS? Or just build a tip-up and access it from behind. Bill PS. My Dynon D100 EFIS arrived last week. VERY cool. I can only imagine what the HITS EFIS's are like to fly behind but since my -9 will be VFR only, I don't see the need. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Radomir Zaric Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:28 PM Using one of those USB memory sticks.. you can run a little extension cable for the USB to the panel to make it a bit easier. _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Utsey Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:53 PM updated if you are using their GPS module? Randy Utsey RV-7 Quick-slow build -- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:23 PM Another thought on an EFIS; I never really considered what it would take to update the database or firmware. My Garmin uses a memory card and it is very easy. The BMA requires a laptop at the airplane and proficiency with an FTP program. You also have to hook up a USB keyboard separately, all from the back of the unit! The Dynon uses a serial port/plug to the laptop at the plane as well, but their support program does all the transferring. Just a thought. Wayne _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul D. Franzon Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:57 PM On Sunday, it looks like my vacuum pump failed, AND I might benefit from having my RV-4 being IFR capable. Thus, I am considering upgrading to an EFIS and Autopilot. I am fishing for suggestions on this. Having talked to several of you, I am swinging towards Blue Mountain Avionics. Including the AP and remote compass, the cost is about the same as the Dynon and it seems to be somewhat better in many aspects (HITS, terrain, one less instrument, etc.) However, I thought I would throw this question out to the group. Any suggestions please? Regards, Paul D. Franzon -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/14/2006 -- 7/17/2006