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     1. 02:04 PM - Intercept (Larry Bowen)
     2. 05:12 PM - Re: Intercept (Steve Glasgow)
     3. 05:25 PM - Garmin EFIS (Lance C. Arbuckle)
     4. 05:59 PM - Re: Intercept (Larry Bowen)
     5. 06:02 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (Larry Bowen)
     6. 06:14 PM - QB v. SB (Lance C. Arbuckle)
     7. 06:26 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (Lance C. Arbuckle)
     8. 06:40 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (Radomir Zaric)
     9. 06:42 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (randy pinkston)
    10. 06:45 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (Larry Bowen)
    11. 07:00 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (Lance C. Arbuckle)
    12. 08:23 PM - Re: Garmin EFIS (tadsargent)
    13. 10:40 PM - Back from OSH ... (VERY LONG-WINDED) (James Clark)
 
 
 
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      Check this out!  Be sure to read the description on the right side of the
      page.
      
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1460232537409592658&hl=en
      
      -
      Larry Bowen, RV-8 213 Hrs
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
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      Good intercept.  Is the 7 going to be Nifty Two?
      
      Cappy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Larry Bowen 
        To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 5:03 PM
        Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Intercept
      
      
        --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" 
      <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
        Check this out!  Be sure to read the description on the right side of 
      the
        page.
      
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1460232537409592658&hl=en
      
        -
        Larry Bowen, RV-8 213 Hrs
        Larry@BowenAero.com
        http://BowenAero.com
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      
      For those that made it to OSH, did Garmin have their new EFIS on 
      display?  Are there any details that you can share about the unit?
      
      http://www.garmin.com/products/g900x/
      
      --
      Lance C. Arbuckle
      Winston-Salem, NC
      
      
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      Don't know yet.  I think I have some time to decide -- like a couple years.
      We'll see what sort of personality it takes on.  But I'm sure it will be
      nifty also.  :)
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com <http://bowenaero.com/> 
      
      
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      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:11 PM
      
      
      Good intercept.  Is the 7 going to be Nifty Two?
      
      Cappy
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 5:03 PM
      
      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      Check this out!  Be sure to read the description on the right side of the
      page.
      
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1460232537409592658
      <http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1460232537409592658&hl=en> &hl=en
      
      -
      Larry Bowen, RV-8 213 Hrs
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      If it was there, I didn't notice it -- but I went thru the buildings pretty
      fast.  It looks like a winner.  Have you see any prices on it yet?
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Lance C. Arbuckle [mailto:rv8@arbuckle.org] 
      > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:25 PM
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin EFIS
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" 
      > --> <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      > 
      > For those that made it to OSH, did Garmin have their new EFIS 
      > on display?  Are there any details that you can share about the unit?
      > 
      > http://www.garmin.com/products/g900x/
      > 
      > --
      > Lance C. Arbuckle
      > Winston-Salem, NC
      > 
      > 
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      > Photoshare, and much much more:
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      
      
      It looks like Vans has helped make up my mind as whether to go with a QB 
      kit or a slowbuild.  As of now, all the fuselage components will be 
      match drilled instead of just the skins...that'll mean a few extra 
      dollars available for the fancy EFIS.
      
      http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/8_fuse.pdf
      
      -- 
      Lance C. Arbuckle
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      
      Larry Bowen wrote:
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      > 
      > If it was there, I didn't notice it -- but I went thru the buildings pretty
      > fast.  It looks like a winner.  Have you see any prices on it yet?
      > 
      
      
      I haven't seen any pricing or detailed specs.  It appears garmin has 
      taken to acting like Microsoft and announcing products before their 
      really ready.  With all the equipment that's consolidated into the two 
      units, I'm sure they won't come cheap.  I don't even know if two 10.4 
      inch displays will fit in the panel of the rv8.
      
      -- 
      Lance C. Arbuckle
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
      
      I doubt two 10.4's will fit in an -8.
      
      They did mention the price -- 900X is just a bit over 66k..
      
      The smaller one is around 29k
      
      
      Radomir
      -7A Finish
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lance C.
      Arbuckle
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:10 PM
      
      
      I haven't seen any pricing or detailed specs.  It appears garmin has 
      taken to acting like Microsoft and announcing products before their 
      really ready.  With all the equipment that's consolidated into the two 
      units, I'm sure they won't come cheap.  I don't even know if two 10.4 
      inch displays will fit in the panel of the rv8.
      
      -- 
      Lance C. Arbuckle
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "randy pinkston" <pinkston@carolina.rr.com>
      
      62000.00 what i was told randy rv7a
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:09 PM
      
      
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle"
      <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      >
      > Larry Bowen wrote:
      > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
      <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      > >
      > > If it was there, I didn't notice it -- but I went thru the buildings
      pretty
      > > fast.  It looks like a winner.  Have you see any prices on it yet?
      > >
      >
      >
      > I haven't seen any pricing or detailed specs.  It appears garmin has
      > taken to acting like Microsoft and announcing products before their
      > really ready.  With all the equipment that's consolidated into the two
      > units, I'm sure they won't come cheap.  I don't even know if two 10.4
      > inch displays will fit in the panel of the rv8.
      >
      > -- 
      > Lance C. Arbuckle
      >
      >
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      
      There is a pic in an RV-7 and prices in this thread:
      
      http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t-66
      
      Too rich for me!
      
      -
      Larry Bowen
      Larry@BowenAero.com
      http://BowenAero.com
      
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: randy pinkston [mailto:pinkston@carolina.rr.com] 
      > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:43 PM
      > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin EFIS
      > 
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "randy pinkston" 
      > --> <pinkston@carolina.rr.com>
      > 
      > 62000.00 what i was told randy rv7a
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:09 PM
      > 
      > 
      > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle"
      > <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      > >
      > > Larry Bowen wrote:
      > > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
      > <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      > > >
      > > > If it was there, I didn't notice it -- but I went thru 
      > the buildings
      > pretty
      > > > fast.  It looks like a winner.  Have you see any prices on it yet?
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I haven't seen any pricing or detailed specs.  It appears garmin has
      > > taken to acting like Microsoft and announcing products before their
      > > really ready.  With all the equipment that's consolidated 
      > into the two
      > > units, I'm sure they won't come cheap.  I don't even know 
      > if two 10.4
      > > inch displays will fit in the panel of the rv8.
      > >
      > > -- 
      > > Lance C. Arbuckle
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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      > >
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      >  
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      
      randy pinkston wrote:
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "randy pinkston" <pinkston@carolina.rr.com>
      > 
      > 62000.00 what i was told randy rv7a
      
      
      Ouch !  That's a bit outside the budget for me.  oh well....
      
      -- 
      Lance C. Arbuckle
      
      
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      --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "tadsargent" <tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
      
      A web site I saw showed $66,000
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:02 PM
      
      
      > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
      <Larry@BowenAero.com>
      >
      > If it was there, I didn't notice it -- but I went thru the buildings
      pretty
      > fast.  It looks like a winner.  Have you see any prices on it yet?
      >
      > -
      > Larry Bowen
      > Larry@BowenAero.com
      > http://BowenAero.com
      >
      >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Lance C. Arbuckle [mailto:rv8@arbuckle.org]
      > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 8:25 PM
      > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
      > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin EFIS
      > >
      > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle"
      > > --> <rv8@arbuckle.org>
      > >
      > > For those that made it to OSH, did Garmin have their new EFIS
      > > on display?  Are there any details that you can share about the unit?
      > >
      > > http://www.garmin.com/products/g900x/
      > >
      > > --
      > > Lance C. Arbuckle
      > > Winston-Salem, NC
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Photoshare, and much much more:
      > >
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| Subject:  | Back from OSH ... (VERY LONG-WINDED) | 
      
      Well I finally made it back from Oshkosh.
      
      After ten (10) days of RV/flying stuff, I must say I am tired.
      
      First the formation clinic at SQI was great! We learned a lot and got in
      some good practice. I think it showed at the OSH formation flying that was
      done.
      
      Second, the actual flying at OSH was wonderful in that a) it looked good
      from what the pictures show and b) there were lots of people that thought it
      looked good and really appreciated it. We were glad to be able to do it (I
      know I was).
      
      Third, as usual, a big THANKS goes out to the "tag team" of  Falcon and
      Kahuna. The combination of the two sets of skills and personalities makes it
      all work. Not to mention the inordinate amount of personal TIME and
      RESOURCES these two guys invest in making it be good and safe.
      
      I left OSH on Saturday around noon as I heard that bad weather was enroute
      for Sunday morning. I knew I would not make it all the way to Columbia
      (can't quite do Flight Level 190 at 200+ knots :-)  ). I hoped to make it to
      Lexington Kentucky and then early the next morning scoot over to Columbia.
      Hey if I went to the SC Breakfast Club I would surely win the prize for
      larthest distance!!  :-) .. Neither of these were to occur. I got as far a
      just past Lafayette, Indiana (Purdue) when after decending to avoid buildups
      *and* having the viz drop to ... let's just say LOW, *and* then having
      Chicago Center say "radar contact lost *and* did I say it was HOT and muggy?
      ... I decided to do a 180 and spend the night at Lafayette as I had done on
      a prior OSh return trip.
      
      Well this choice was far  more wise than I realized at the time because by
      the time the hotel shuttle got me to the hotel, the skies opened up and the
      "bottom fell out!" It POURED rain for some time. Where did it come from so
      fast?? Good thing I got "Papa Juliette" in a hangar for the night.
      
      THe next morning, I arrive bright and early  to depart. But I cannot (at
      elast not VFR). The airport is near a river and it is FOGGED IN!. So I wait,
      and wait. Finally after getting a "Special" I depart and circle the airport
      in a climb to see it it looks OK to launch. It looked fine so away I go. But
      just after passing over Indianapolis, I hit a visibility WALL!! (This is
      after descending again. I do this because I almost got caught in this type
      weather one year ... running out of climb and places to go.). Immediate 180
      to land at the first place in the "clear'. Turns out to be "Franklin Flying
      Field (Indiana)". Nice people there. Got a turn of a WACO restoration
      effort. One done .. two underway. RV's on the field. Get invited to Sunday
      dinner with the airport manager at his parents place with the sibling and
      grandkids! I get offered a place to stay if I get stuck and a vehicle to use
      if I need to go into town!! Wow! They do this for a stranger who just
      happened to wander in out of the sky on a bad weather day. Thanks folks. I
      will never forget the visit.
      
      After several hours there, I finally decide to launch, to see if I can at
      least make it to KLEX (the original goal the day before). Well ... once
      again, I hit the visibility WALL! I tell Center that I am doing a 180 to the
      nearest airport (Madison Indiana) which is about 3 miles away. Again, the
      airport is near a river (the Ohio River I think). Again, WONDERFUL people.
      The lady at the front desk sits and chat with meas I lament about how hot it
      is and how lousy the weather is and how long I have been trying to get home.
      She is so pleasant that I soon forget about my woes and actually enjoy
      sitting in the cool new FBO chatting. Some time later a guy stops in and
      joins in on the conversation. He ends up offering to call the owner of a
      nagar to see if I can "rent" it for the night if I get stuck. Anothe couple
      pulls up in their Comanche from OSH. They later check on me and give me
      their card, saying if I need anything ... just call. The local sage flight
      instructor goes up with a student (locally) but comes back with a Pirep for
      me after I have been there for a few hours. He now thinks I should be able
      to make it to KLEX! SO off I go.
      
      I make it KLEX just as a storm seems to be crawling in. Just as I pull up I
      see a fella near a really NICE older Cessna 172 that has been restored. I
      find out that he (and his wife) have WON AN AWARD at OSH!! (Deservingly so
      ... nice plane) and they are planning to go to Greenville/Spatanburg .. the
      same route I need to take and he THINKS we can make it. We both check with
      FSS again an they think we can make it. (By the way, this is the FIRST time
      ever that the FSS people have been MORE optimistic about the weather than I
      was ... and they were RIGHT!) We both launch with the goal of making it to
      our destinations before dark (especially the crossing the mountains part).
      Eventually the smog/haze thins out a bit up around 7500 and I ease along at
      about 160kts (still 40+ shy of a certain RV :-)  ) Once I do get across the
      mountains I feel much better. At least I am back in SC and if the forecasted
      rain sets in for the next few days, I am in driving distance and near
      friends. So I start to descend. Back into the much. Man this viz stuff is
      REALLY bad. Good thing we installed an autopilot as it is earling its keep
      today. But what is that on the 396? A thunderstorm right near Columbia? And
      it is about to get dark? And the lower I go the WORSE the viz is getting. Oh
      well, I have plenty of options now as I am on home turf. I know the airports
      and the people at them. At several, I can just call a friend and get home if
      needed. But the 396 says the weather is just a few miles away and it looks
      like if I really shove the throttle forward and point the nose down a bit I
      might just make it. Now we are 170+ knots (160 hp ... slight downhill). I
      think I can make it. I see the lights of the city. I see the outline of the
      lake, I am "home". "Owens Field is 12 o'clock ...no observed traffic, radar
      service terminated, frequency change approved". Sounds wonderful. I cross
      mid-field to enter the pattern and land. Whew!! What a good feeling.
      
      James
      
      
      -- 
      This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
      james@nextupventures.com .
      
 
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