---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/05/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Garmin 296 (Ed Anderson) 2. 08:26 AM - Re: Garmin 296 (lenleg@aol.com) 3. 12:10 PM - Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? (Ed Anderson) 4. 01:21 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (Wayne Williams) 5. 01:48 PM - Re: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? (Larry Bowen) 6. 02:27 PM - Goose Creek (Dale Ensing) 7. 02:43 PM - Re: Goose Creek (Ed Anderson) 8. 02:45 PM - Re: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? (Ed Anderson) 9. 07:02 PM - Wings Weekend? (Larry Bowen) 10. 07:37 PM - Re: Garmin 296 (sportav8r@aol.com) 11. 09:21 PM - Re: Wings Weekend? () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:17 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Sounds like a great arrangement for something that is interesting (exciting) and is a community? State? service. Watch out for tall pine trees and short runways. Ed ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 11:26 PM > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > Hi Ed, > > I'm easing my way into retirement. Of course the retirement checks from > USAF and USAir help, but this job is strictly as a contract pilot. I tell > my boss when I want to fly and he tells me when he could use me. It's a > great retirement job. I'll never be an employee again! > > Ron do not archive >> >> From: "Ed Anderson" >> Date: 2006/08/04 Fri PM 05:27:14 EDT >> To: >> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 >> >> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" >> >> >> Gee, Ron and here I thought you were retired - talk about someone who >> can't >> keep away from the action {:>). Fly safe!! >> >> Ed >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:01 PM >> >> >> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I'm stuck out here in Wenatchee, Washington for about a month fighting >> > forest fires and thought I would tell you all what I am doing. This is >> > really an advertisement for the Garmin handheld GPS! I'm flying Air >> > Attack missions for the US Forest Service in a Cessna 337 Skymaster >> > (the >> > push-pull or suck and blow twin engine type.) It's the civilian >> > version >> > of the military O-2 that the Air Force used as a forward air control >> > (FAC) >> > platform. Too many years ago I was a Forward Air Contoller in Vietnam, >> > flying the OV-10 Bronco and I find that the Air Attack mission is very >> > similar. As a FAC, I directed fighter/bomber aircraft in on targets by >> > marking with a white phosphorus (WP) rocket so they could see the >> > targets >> > which were usually heavily camoflaged or hidden in the jungle canopy on >> > the Ho Chi Minh trail. As an Air Attack I direct the helicopters and >> > water bombers that fight the wildfires. The only difference I see in >> > the >> > missions is that we are dropping water instead of bo >> > mbs and nobody is shooting at me this time! >> > Our aircraft are well-equipped with two FM radios and two AM radios >> > and >> > two Garmin 430's with terrain and traffic (TCAS). Despite having two >> > 430's I still bring along my personnal Garmin 296 and find it to be the >> > most useful piece of equipment in the aircraft. The terrain here is >> > very >> > rugged with peaks topping 13,000 feet and the visibility is sometimes >> > very >> > limited due to smoke. Then there are up to 4 helicopters working in >> > close >> > proximity all day long. The missions can last for 6 hours at a time >> > with >> > all these elements (terrain, traffic and poor visibility) commonplace. >> > I >> > use all three Garmins at once: one on TCAS, one on TERRAIN and one for >> > navigation. The terrain feature is really a comfort as it is difficult >> > with an occluded (smoke) horizon to determine by visual reference if I >> > am >> > higher than the terrain I plan on crossing ahead. The TCAS feature on >> > the >> > 430 helps me keep track of the helo's and gives me warning of any >> > intruders in the TFR that overlays every f >> > ire. We have had three intrusions by A-6 Intruders (appropriately >> > named) >> > this week as a low lever (VR) route goes right through the fire zone >> > and >> > they somehow don't get briefed on the TFR. Yesterday one had two near >> > misses with helo's. Scarry! So, I use the 430s for TCAS and TERRAIN >> > while the 296 is used to keep track of navigation. I overfly and MARK >> > numerous spots of interest in the fire (hot spots, helo landing spots, >> > ground troop positions, helo "dipping" lakes and TRF boundaries, etc.) >> > I >> > can pass coordinates of any spot just by hitting "enter" and read it >> > off. >> > Those of you planning your panel layout would be well-advised to >> > consider one of the Garmin -96 series in your plans. The 430 is nice >> > and >> > it is IFR certified, but for ease of operation and more readable >> > display I >> > prefer the 296. I put a SL-30 nav/comm in "Miss Izzy" to handle the >> > occasional IMC approach and even with in internal GPS in my GRT EFIS I >> > find the 296 is my most useful piece of avionics. I'm sure the 396 >> > with >> > XM weather is even nicer and maybe I will upgrade when I win the >> > lottery >> > and send the 296 to the back seat. I have flow with the 296 for at >> > least >> > 500 hours now and can't stop raving about it. For the money there is >> > no >> > comparison. (No, I am not associated with Garmin and didn't get a plug >> > nickel for any of this!) I just like that little sucker! >> > There are 4 or 5 major fires in Washington right now and there is >> > little chance that we will put them out before the first major rainfall >> > or >> > snow. Best we can do is "manage" the fire and keep it from spreading >> > to >> > areas with more fuel (dead or diseased timber) or areas that threaten >> > structures. >> > I miss flying my RV-8 while I am here and I sure miss flying with >> > you >> > guys. Sure would be nice to have that RV climb performance in this >> > terrain! I'll be back at the end of August in time for the flight to >> > Ocracoke. Hope to see you all there. Kathy is really looking forward >> > to >> > that, too. Keep the email coming. Its the highlight of my day. >> > >> > Y'all fly safe, >> > >> > Ron Schreck >> > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" >> > Gold Hill Airpark, NC >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:32 AM PST US From: lenleg@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 Pilots & Spouses: Len Larry Stormy Cappy Ron Tad Any more want to come ??? Best couples trip I have ever taken ... very laid back and lots of fun. Len -----Original Message----- Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 3:37 PM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Hi Len, Did I mention that it is HOT here too. It was approaching 110 degrees last week but the highs are down to high 80 this week. Fortunately we seldom get below 9000 feet on the fire so its cool enough. You guys need to take the formation practice up to 6000 feet+ and keep that fine edge. The pictures from Oshkosh are super. Looks like all that training was put to good use. I can't get over the fine pictures James took of "Miss Izzy". What a shot! He should submit one of those for the 2007 Van's calendar! I'm taking a breather this morning and expect to be back on the fire about 3 PM until it gets dark. Fortunately the fire calms down at night, but it wakes up when the sun hits the slopes. Who is coming to Ocracoke. I have a rough idea, but no a firm list. Anybody else want to come? I think there are some rooms left at the Ocracoke Island Inn. I hear the owner is a pilot, so he should welcome all RV folks. Fly safe, Ron do not archive > > From: Lenleg@aol.com > Date: 2006/08/04 Fri PM 03:12:16 EDT > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 > > > Ron: > > Great story ... felt my pucker factor go up as I was reading and mentally > flying in the smokey haze !!! > > Please be safe !! It is soooo HOT here that no one is talking much about > flying ... cooler wx is forecast ... thank goodness. > > BTW ... I am a double card FFI Wingman ... still have yours in my pocket too > !! Look forward to seeing you back in NC !! > > Len > > > In a message dated 8/4/2006 3:03:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ronschreck@windstream.net writes: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > Hi all, > > I'm stuck out here in Wenatchee, Washington for about a month fighting > forest fires and thought I would tell you all what I am doing. This is really an > advertisement for the Garmin handheld GPS! I'm flying Air Attack missions > for the US Forest Service in a Cessna 337 Skymaster (the push-pull or suck and > blow twin engine type.) It's the civilian version of the military O-2 that > the Air Force used as a forward air control (FAC) platform. Too many years > ago I was a Forward Air Contoller in Vietnam, flying the OV-10 Bronco and I > find that the Air Attack mission is very similar. As a FAC, I directed > fighter/bomber aircraft in on targets by marking with a white phosphorus (WP) rocket > so they could see the targets which were usually heavily camoflaged or > hidden in the jungle canopy on the Ho Chi Minh trail. As an Air Attack I direct > the helicopters and water bombers that fight the wildfires. The only > difference I see in the missions is that we are dropping water instead of bo > mbs and nobody is shooting at me this time! > Our aircraft are well-equipped with two FM radios and two AM radios and two > Garmin 430's with terrain and traffic (TCAS). Despite having two 430's I > still bring along my personnal Garmin 296 and find it to be the most useful > piece of equipment in the aircraft. The terrain here is very rugged with peaks > topping 13,000 feet and the visibility is sometimes very limited due to > smoke. Then there are up to 4 helicopters working in close proximity all day > long. The missions can last for 6 hours at a time with all these elements > (terrain, traffic and poor visibility) commonplace. I use all three Garmins at > once: one on TCAS, one on TERRAIN and one for navigation. The terrain feature > is really a comfort as it is difficult with an occluded (smoke) horizon to > determine by visual reference if I am higher than the terrain I plan on crossing > ahead. The TCAS feature on the 430 helps me keep track of the helo's and > gives me warning of any intruders in the TFR that overlays every f > ire. We have had three intrusions by A-6 Intruders (appropriately named) > this week as a low lever (VR) route goes right through the fire zone and they > somehow don't get briefed on the TFR. Yesterday one had two near misses with > helo's. Scarry! So, I use the 430s for TCAS and TERRAIN while the 296 is > used to keep track of navigation. I overfly and MARK numerous spots of > interest in the fire (hot spots, helo landing spots, ground troop positions, helo > "dipping" lakes and TRF boundaries, etc.) I can pass coordinates of any spot > just by hitting "enter" and read it off. > Those of you planning your panel layout would be well-advised to consider > one of the Garmin -96 series in your plans. The 430 is nice and it is IFR > certified, but for ease of operation and more readable display I prefer the 296. > I put a SL-30 nav/comm in "Miss Izzy" to handle the occasional IMC approach > and even with in internal GPS in my GRT EFIS I find the 296 is my most useful > piece of avionics. I'm sure the 396 with XM weather is even nicer and maybe > I will upgrade when I win the lottery and send the 296 to the back seat. I > have flow with the 296 for at least 500 hours now and can't stop raving about > it. For the money there is no comparison. (No, I am not associated with > Garmin and didn't get a plug nickel for any of this!) I just like that little > sucker! > There are 4 or 5 major fires in Washington right now and there is little > chance that we will put them out before the first major rainfall or snow. Best > we can do is "manage" the fire and keep it from spreading to areas with more > fuel (dead or diseased timber) or areas that threaten structures. > I miss flying my RV-8 while I am here and I sure miss flying with you guys. > Sure would be nice to have that RV climb performance in this terrain! I'll > be back at the end of August in time for the flight to Ocracoke. Hope to see > you all there. Kathy is really looking forward to that, too. Keep the > email coming. Its the highlight of my day. > > Y'all fly safe, > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:41 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? Just got back from Goose Creek and could swear I saw Larry's Nifty sitting there at a tied down - could I be seeing things? Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:33 PM PST US From: "Wayne Williams" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 When did I get deleted?? :-) Wayne _____ [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lenleg@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:26 AM Pilots & Spouses: Len Larry Stormy Cappy Ron Tad Any more want to come ??? Best couples trip I have ever taken ... very laid back and lots of fun. Len -----Original Message----- Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 3:37 PM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > Hi Len, Did I mention that it is HOT here too. It was approaching 110 degrees last week but the highs are down to high 80 this week. Fortunately we seldom get below 9000 feet on the fire so its cool enough. You guys need to take the formation practice up to 6000 feet+ and keep that fine edge. The pictures from Oshkosh are super. Looks like all that training was put to good use. I can't get over the fine pictures James took of "Miss Izzy". What a shot! He should submit one of those for the 2007 Van's calendar! I'm taking a breather this morning and expect to be back on the fire about 3 PM until it gets dark. Fortunately the fire calms down at night, but it wakes up when the sun hits the slopes. Who is coming to Ocracoke. I have a rough idea, but no a firm list. Anybody else want to come? I think there are some rooms left at the Ocracoke Island Inn. I hear the owner is a pilot, so he should welcome all RV folks. Fly safe, Ron do not archive > > From: Lenleg@aol.com > Date: 2006/08/04 Fri PM 03:12:16 EDT > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 > > > Ron: > > Great story ... felt my pucker factor go up as I was reading and mentally > flying in the smokey haze !!! > > Please be safe !! It is soooo HOT here that no one is talking much about > flying ... cooler wx is forecast ... thank goodness. > > BTW ... I am a double card FFI Wingman ... still have yours in my pocket too > !! Look forward to seeing you back in NC !! > > Len > > > In a message dated 8/4/2006 3:03:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ronschreck@windstream.net writes: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > > Hi all, > > I'm stuck out here in Wenatchee, Washington for about a month fighting > forest fires and thought I would tell you all what I am doing. This is really an > advertisement for the Garmin handheld GPS! I'm flying Air Attack missions > for the US Forest Service in a Cessna 337 Skymaster (the push-pull or suck and > blow twin engine type.) It's the civilian version of the military O-2 that > the Air Force used as a forward air control (FAC) platform. Too many years > ago I was a Forward Air Contoller in Vietnam, flying the OV-10 Bronco and I > find that the Air Attack mission is very similar. As a FAC, I directed > fighter/bomber aircraft in on targets by marking with a white phosphorus (WP) rocket > so they could see the targets which were usually heavily camoflaged or > hidden in the jungle canopy on the Ho Chi Minh trail. As an Air Attack I direct > the helicopters and water bombers that fight the wildfires. The only > difference I see in the missions is that we are dropping water instead of bo > mbs and nobody is shooting at me this time! > Our aircraft are well-equipped with two FM radios and two AM radios and two > Garmin 430's with terrain and traffic (TCAS). Despite having two 430's I > still bring along my personnal Garmin 296 and find it to be the most useful > piece of equipment in the aircraft. The terrain here is very rugged with peaks > topping 13,000 feet and the visibility is sometimes very limited due to > smoke. Then there are up to 4 helicopters working in close proximity all day > long. The missions can last for 6 hours at a time with all these elements > (terrain, traffic and poor visibility) commonplace. I use all three Garmins at > once: one on TCAS, one on TERRAIN and one for navigation. The terrain feature > is really a comfort as it is difficult with an occluded (smoke) horizon to > determine by visual reference if I am higher than the terrain I plan on crossing > ahead. The TCAS feature on the 430 helps me keep track of the helo's and > gives me warning of any intruders in the TFR that overlays every f > ire. We have had three intrusions by A-6 Intruders (appropriately named) > this week as a low lever (VR) route goes right through the fire zone and they > somehow don't get briefed on the TFR. Yesterday one had two near misses with > helo's. Scarry! So, I use the 430s for TCAS and TERRAIN while the 296 is > used to keep track of navigation. I overfly and MARK numerous spots of > interest in the fire (hot spots, helo landing spots, ground troop positions, helo > "dipping" lakes and TRF boundaries, etc.) I can pass coordinates of any spot > just by hitting "enter" and read it off. > Those of you planning your panel layout would be well-advised to consider > one of the Garmin -96 series in your plans. The 430 is nice and it is IFR > certified, but for ease of operation and more readable display I prefer the 296. > I put a SL-30 nav/comm in "Miss Izzy" to handle the occasional IMC approach > and even with in internal GPS in my GRT EFIS I find the 296 is my most useful > piece of avionics. I'm sure the 396 with XM weather is even nicer and maybe > I will upgrade when I win the lottery and send the 296 to the back seat. I > have flow with the 296 for at least 500 hours now and can't stop raving about > it. For the money there is no comparison. (No, I am not associated with > Garmin and didn't get a plug nickel for any of this!) I just like that little > sucker! > There are 4 or 5 major fires in Washington right now and there is little > chance that we will put them out before the first major rainfall or snow. Best > we can do is "manage" the fire and keep it from spreading to areas with more > fuel (dead or diseased timber) or areas that threaten structures. > I miss flying my RV-8 while I am here and I sure miss flying with you guys. > Sure would be nice to have that RV climb performance in this terrain! I'll > be back at the end of August in time for the flight to Ocracoke. Hope to see > you all there. Kathy is really looking forward to that, too. Keep the > email coming. Its the highlight of my day. > > Y'all fly safe, > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:55 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" That was me. I brought a RV-7A wanna be from GSO with me to check out Radomir's project and watch Tad do that paint thing he does so well. I can't wait until he paints my next one! -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Ed Anderson wrote: > Just got back from Goose Creek and could swear I saw Larry's Nifty sitting > there at a tied down - could I be seeing things? > > Ed > > Ed Anderson > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > Matthews, NC > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:46 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Goose Creek Hey Ed, What is the name of the person who manages the Goose Creek airport? (Not the flight school) Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? Just got back from Goose Creek and could swear I saw Larry's Nifty sitting there at a tied down - could I be seeing things? Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:47 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Goose Creek Mike Bic now owns and manages Goose Creek Airport - except for the flight school which is owned by John Long. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:28 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Goose Creek Hey Ed, What is the name of the person who manages the Goose Creek airport? (Not the flight school) Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Anderson To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? Just got back from Goose Creek and could swear I saw Larry's Nifty sitting there at a tied down - could I be seeing things? Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:11 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Larry Moving?? or just sluming?? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" Ok, thanks, Larry, my eyeball has not let me down. Yes, I'm thinking about redoing my cowling from scratch and having Tad paint it to match the original. I understand he would rather paint than fly {:>) Ed ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:48 PM > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > That was me. I brought a RV-7A wanna be from GSO with me to check out > Radomir's project and watch Tad do that paint thing he does so well. I > can't wait until he paints my next one! > > -- > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Ed Anderson wrote: >> Just got back from Goose Creek and could swear I saw Larry's Nifty >> sitting >> there at a tied down - could I be seeing things? >> >> Ed >> >> Ed Anderson >> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered >> Matthews, NC >> eanderson@carolina.rr.com >> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wings Weekend? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I got a call from the FAA the other day. Before I could voice my alibi, he told me it was regarding the Wings Weekend on November 4th at Goldsboro, NC. He's looking for a couple volunteers to do presentation on the RV's and what it takes to build and fly them. Sort of like the presentation Len and I did for the Winston-Salem airport group a couple months ago. I told him I would ask the group if anyone was available/interested. It would be a 40-50 minute presentation in a classroom type environment. Maybe a slideshow, questions from the attendees, etc. I'm thinking 3-4 people who are well into their kit or flying would be good. Who would be willing to participate? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:35 PM PST US From: sportav8r@aol.com Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 You left out Wayne 8A. -Stormy -----Original Message----- Sent: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:25 AM Pilots & Spouses: Len Larry Stormy Cappy Ron Tad Any more want to come ??? Best couples trip I have ever taken ... very laid back and lots of fun. Len -----Original Message----- Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 3:37 PM --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Hi Len, Did I mention that it is HOT here too. It was approaching 110 degrees last week but the highs are down to high 80 this week. Fortunately we seldom get below 9000 feet on the fire so its cool enough. You guys need to take the formation practice up to 6000 feet+ and keep that fine edge. The pictures from Oshkosh are super. Looks like all that training was put to good use. I can't get over the fine pictures James took of "Miss Izzy". What a shot! He should submit one of those for the 2007 Van's calendar! I'm taking a breather this morning and expect to be back on the fire about 3 PM until it gets dark. Fortunately the fire calms down at night, but it wakes up when the sun hits the slopes. Who is coming to Ocracoke. I have a rough idea, but no a firm list. Anybody else want to come? I think there are some rooms left at the Ocracoke Island Inn. I hear the owner is a pilot, so he should welcome all RV folks. Fly safe, Ron do not archive > > From: Lenleg@aol.com > Date: 2006/08/04 Fri PM 03:12:16 EDT > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Garmin 296 > > > Ron: > > Great story ... felt my pucker factor go up as I was reading and mentally > flying in the smokey haze !!! > > Please be safe !! It is soooo HOT here that no one is talking much about > flying ... cooler wx is forecast ... thank goodness. > > BTW ... I am a double card FFI Wingman ... still have yours in my pocket too > !! Look forward to seeing you back in NC !! > > Len > > > In a message dated 8/4/2006 3:03:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > ronschreck@windstream.net writes: > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: > > Hi all, > > I'm stuck out here in Wenatchee, Washington for about a month fighting > forest fires and thought I would tell you all what I am doing. This is really an > advertisement for the Garmin handheld GPS! I'm flying Air Attack missions > for the US Forest Service in a Cessna 337 Skymaster (the push-pull or suck and > blow twin engine type.) It's the civilian version of the military O-2 that > the Air Force used as a forward air control (FAC) platform. Too many years > ago I was a Forward Air Contoller in Vietnam, flying the OV-10 Bronco and I > find that the Air Attack mission is very similar. As a FAC, I directed > fighter/bomber aircraft in on targets by marking with a white phosphorus (WP) rocket > so they could see the targets which were usually heavily camoflaged or > hidden in the jungle canopy on the Ho Chi Minh trail. As an Air Attack I direct > the helicopters and water bombers that fight the wildfires. The only > difference I see in the missions is that we are dropping water instead of bo > mbs and nobody is shooting at me this time! > Our aircraft are well-equipped with two FM radios and two AM radios and two > Garmin 430's with terrain and traffic (TCAS). Despite having two 430's I > still bring along my personnal Garmin 296 and find it to be the most useful > piece of equipment in the aircraft. The terrain here is very rugged with peaks > topping 13,000 feet and the visibility is sometimes very limited due to > smoke. Then there are up to 4 helicopters working in close proximity all day > long. The missions can last for 6 hours at a time with all these elements > (terrain, traffic and poor visibility) commonplace. I use all three Garmins at > once: one on TCAS, one on TERRAIN and one for navigation. The terrain feature > is really a comfort as it is difficult with an occluded (smoke) horizon to > determine by visual reference if I am higher than the terrain I plan on crossing > ahead. The TCAS feature on the 430 helps me keep track of the helo's and > gives me warning of any intruders in the TFR that overlays every f > ire. We have had three intrusions by A-6 Intruders (appropriately named) > this week as a low lever (VR) route goes right through the fire zone and they > somehow don't get briefed on the TFR. Yesterday one had two near misses with > helo's. Scarry! So, I use the 430s for TCAS and TERRAIN while the 296 is > used to keep track of navigation. I overfly and MARK numerous spots of > interest in the fire (hot spots, helo landing spots, ground troop positions, helo > "dipping" lakes and TRF boundaries, etc.) I can pass coordinates of any spot > just by hitting "enter" and read it off. > Those of you planning your panel layout would be well-advised to consider > one of the Garmin -96 series in your plans. The 430 is nice and it is IFR > certified, but for ease of operation and more readable display I prefer the 296. > I put a SL-30 nav/comm in "Miss Izzy" to handle the occasional IMC approach > and even with in internal GPS in my GRT EFIS I find the 296 is my most useful > piece of avionics. I'm sure the 396 with XM weather is even nicer and maybe > I will upgrade when I win the lottery and send the 296 to the back seat. I > have flow with the 296 for at least 500 hours now and can't stop raving about > it. For the money there is no comparison. (No, I am not associated with > Garmin and didn't get a plug nickel for any of this!) I just like that little > sucker! > There are 4 or 5 major fires in Washington right now and there is little > chance that we will put them out before the first major rainfall or snow. Best > we can do is "manage" the fire and keep it from spreading to areas with more > fuel (dead or diseased timber) or areas that threaten structures. > I miss flying my RV-8 while I am here and I sure miss flying with you guys. > Sure would be nice to have that RV climb performance in this terrain! I'll > be back at the end of August in time for the flight to Ocracoke. Hope to see > you all there. Kathy is really looking forward to that, too. Keep the > email coming. Its the highlight of my day. > > Y'all fly safe, > > Ron Schreck > RV-8 "Miss Izzy" > Gold Hill Airpark, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:26 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Wings Weekend? --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Hard to plan that far in advance, but I would be interested. Is this a fly-in or drive-in? Ron do not archive > > From: "Larry Bowen" > Date: 2006/08/05 Sat PM 10:00:38 EDT > To: > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Wings Weekend? > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > I got a call from the FAA the other day. Before I could voice my alibi, he > told me it was regarding the Wings Weekend on November 4th at Goldsboro, NC. > He's looking for a couple volunteers to do presentation on the RV's and what > it takes to build and fly them. Sort of like the presentation Len and I did > for the Winston-Salem airport group a couple months ago. I told him I would > ask the group if anyone was available/interested. It would be a 40-50 > minute presentation in a classroom type environment. Maybe a slideshow, > questions from the attendees, etc. I'm thinking 3-4 people who are well > into their kit or flying would be good. > > Who would be willing to participate? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >