---------------------------------------------------------- RVSouthEast-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/04/06: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:55 AM - a few q's for the experienced builders (Carter Wright) 2. 09:33 AM - Re: a few q's for the experienced builders (Radomir Zaric) 3. 01:42 PM - Re: September 9th Flyout - Reminder (Bill Repucci) 4. 02:20 PM - Re: a few q's for the experienced builders (Marcus Cooper) 5. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: September 9th Flyout - Reminder (Larry Bowen) 6. 04:37 PM - Re: a few q's for the experienced builders (Dale Ensing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:43 AM PST US From: "Carter Wright" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" I really did try to figure this out myself, but... The rudder is the first sub-assembly to use AD-41 and CS4-4 pulled rivets. Both get drilled to #30, I presume? And do you countersink, dimple, or both for the CS4? 120 degrees? Anyone have an online source for this info? (I didn't find in mil-spec or other google attempts) Thanks, Carter ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:45 AM PST US From: "Radomir Zaric" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" Yes, #30... and CS4-4 are dimpled (or countersunk, depending on material thickness)... Using your regular #30 dimple die set will work. Radomir -7A Finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carter Wright Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" I really did try to figure this out myself, but... The rudder is the first sub-assembly to use AD-41 and CS4-4 pulled rivets. Both get drilled to #30, I presume? And do you countersink, dimple, or both for the CS4? 120 degrees? Anyone have an online source for this info? (I didn't find in mil-spec or other google attempts) Thanks, Carter ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:46 PM PST US From: "Bill Repucci" Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: September 9th Flyout - Reminder Just a reminder that the Flyout is this coming Saturday. Please let either Dale Ensing or myself know if you are going to make it. Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: eaa309@googlegroups.com [mailto:eaa309@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:16 PM Cc: Bill Repucci Subject: September 9th Flyout Chapter Flyout/Driveout September 9, 2006 Fly with us to Martinsville, VA for lunch and then on to the North Carolina Aviation Museum at the Asheboro, NC Regional Airport. Lunch is planned at the Runway Cafe on the Martinsville Regional Airport (KMTV). The Cafe is right on the airport and is open from 11AM to 3PM on Saturday. Easy to park and walk to the Cafe. Since the Museum is only open until 5 PM, we suggest meeting for lunch at 11 AM to allow time to eat, fly to Asheboro and have sufficient time at the museum. But, whatever works in your schedule........join us when you can. North Carolina Aviation Museum is at the Asheboro Regional Airport and is open from 10AM to 5PM on Salurday. Adults $5.00. Students $3.00 The Runway Cafe and the Museum have been alerted to our visit. Would like to get a head count the week before to give estimate of number attending. Please let Dale Ensing or Bill Rapucci know if you plan to join us. Martinsville airport (KMTV) Info: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMTV Museum Info: http://www.ncairmuseum.org/ Asheboro airport (KHBI) Info: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHBI Regards, Dale Ensing --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EAA Chapter 309 Discussion List" group. 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Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Radomir Zaric Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" Yes, #30... and CS4-4 are dimpled (or countersunk, depending on material thickness)... Using your regular #30 dimple die set will work. Radomir -7A Finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carter Wright Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Carter Wright" I really did try to figure this out myself, but... The rudder is the first sub-assembly to use AD-41 and CS4-4 pulled rivets. Both get drilled to #30, I presume? And do you countersink, dimple, or both for the CS4? 120 degrees? Anyone have an online source for this info? (I didn't find in mil-spec or other google attempts) Thanks, Carter ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:56 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: September 9th Flyout - Reminder I should be able to be there. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: Bill Repucci [mailto:bill@repucci.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: September 9th Flyout - Reminder Just a reminder that the Flyout is this coming Saturday. Please let either Dale Ensing or myself know if you are going to make it. Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: eaa309@googlegroups.com [mailto:eaa309@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Ensing Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:16 PM Cc: Bill Repucci Subject: September 9th Flyout Chapter Flyout/Driveout September 9, 2006 Fly with us to Martinsville, VA for lunch and then on to the North Carolina Aviation Museum at the Asheboro, NC Regional Airport. Lunch is planned at the Runway Cafe on the Martinsville Regional Airport (KMTV). The Cafe is right on the airport and is open from 11AM to 3PM on Saturday. Easy to park and walk to the Cafe. Since the Museum is only open until 5 PM, we suggest meeting for lunch at 11 AM to allow time to eat, fly to Asheboro and have sufficient time at the museum. But, whatever works in your schedule........join us when you can. North Carolina Aviation Museum is at the Asheboro Regional Airport and is open from 10AM to 5PM on Salurday. Adults $5.00. Students $3.00 The Runway Cafe and the Museum have been alerted to our visit. Would like to get a head count the week before to give estimate of number attending. Please let Dale Ensing or Bill Rapucci know if you plan to join us. Martinsville airport (KMTV) Info: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMTV Museum Info: http://www.ncairmuseum.org/ Asheboro airport (KHBI) Info: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHBI Regards, Dale Ensing --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "EAA Chapter 309 Discussion List" group. To post to this group, send email to eaa309@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to eaa309-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/eaa309 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:20 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carter Wright" Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RVSouthEast-List: a few q's for the experienced builders > The rudder is the first sub-assembly to use AD-41 and CS4-4 pulled rivets. > Both get drilled to #30, I presume? Yes > And do you countersink, dimple, or both for the CS4? 120 degrees? Yes, what ever is appropriate for the metal thickness and situiation. My preference is to dimple when ever possible. If the metal is .032 or less I always dimple if possible. And if the too thick to get good dimple then countersink. One other thing.....When dimpling the larger holes you want to drill hole slightly over size so that the metal doesn't tear. Safe thing...... when in doubt try a sample hole in a scrap of the same thichness and temper. Dale Ensing